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birch23 said:
Yep but as HOS I will used the general govs.(I have their pics anyway...:) and in reality they were more HOS than the King.Okay I will switch those two then,it was actually my intention too in the first place but then I switched cause of the reading,but you are probably right FF will be CE and FG LC,Yep I have applied the changes for the comm. too I only kept sr.as HOS (representative and HOMI replac)it is jr,which are the big man around now,got a nice pic of him too,looks very much like Daddy but is not physically as big as him,in the late 40's the lead dog will be McCullough...Sean Murray should be in there as well in the 30's before he switches to Labour.

Yep you did ,but there was trouble ID'ing them,but I 've had some great help on that one,out of the AFAIR 8 persons we got the 6 or 7.
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Ah, got it. Using the Governor Generals for 36/37 is fine. Then switch to Hyde/MacNeill for the Presidential election in 37. Murray should shift to Labour sometime around 1941/42. I think he ran as a Labour TD candidate in 42, but I'm unsure about that. But for the 30's, definitely in the COM camp. I'd keep Larkin sr as a FM replacement too, as his international contacts, especialy among the Socialists and Communists would be very valuable, and he did have a great deal of respect internationally. I thought there was a Id list on the bottom of teh Labour pic, but I found there isn't. If you want the missing people ID'd, I can probably get that done fairly quick.
 
You still have this opportunity - just point it to whatever folder you like. It is but a self-installer with some gfx added. After that - you can spend your whole life watching the file.
 
birch23 said:
nonononononono we(I) really appreciate the tremendous games and efforts Paradox puts into this,these are the best games I have come across (EU2 with the latest are now magnificent)but as you know they can't think of everything,and I like to try and persuade myself that we are just helping them a tiny bit in making great games even greater....I have never come across a company who are more willingly to implement the wishes of the fans into their games,and continously updates them.....(Only thing wrong with them are of course that they are Swedish.... :rofl:

Well Péron was far more left than his predecessors,and it is the best way to describe the various South American Nacionalistas...besides that we are restricted to the use of 9 political fractions were you can easily say that two of them are occupied and thereby useless ST/NS.

Rep.sounds great....but you know we should keep the govs.as narrow as possible to make the game more fun...but we should'nt be unhistorical either in the existing govs.One use of that is for example an anarchist minister can be numbered both as an LWR type and LE type which could prevent a Nieto gov having too many options.
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I've sent you my last work. I've changed my chip, from "who could have work for that cabinet" to "who should have work with that cabinet". I've come into a very neat thing, I think, and very few ministers used with more than one ideology.

How about my idea to encourage players to choose democratic or change goverment by giving a bonus tolerance?


Ah, and something else... last day I observed that in the last patch Himmler has a rating of 3! I hope you'll have sink him to 0 (he suits perfectly for your own description of a skill 0 leader: "someone that should never have been given a command") :)
 
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JRaup said:
Ah, got it. Using the Governor Generals for 36/37 is fine. Then switch to Hyde/MacNeill for the Presidential election in 37. Murray should shift to Labour sometime around 1941/42. I think he ran as a Labour TD candidate in 42, but I'm unsure about that. But for the 30's, definitely in the COM camp. I'd keep Larkin sr as a FM replacement too, as his international contacts, especialy among the Socialists and Communists would be very valuable, and he did have a great deal of respect internationally. I thought there was a Id list on the bottom of teh Labour pic, but I found there isn't. If you want the missing people ID'd, I can probably get that done fairly quick.
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Yep I always use those anyway in the Commonwealth states and now I use the Gauleiters too as HOS in occupied states in the election thing.btw.MacNeill looks like a psycho....:) no wonder they choose Hyde who isn' exactly mr.Smiley either....:) I have Murray leaving the Commies in 1939 but I don't actually think he joined Labour before 1941.the reason was a major clash with Big Jim I've read.nononnonon the Labour people have been IDed (I hope they are right the ones who did that,the trouble with those guys are that I have to prolong their existence in the game beyond time because quite a lot of them either left Ireland or died in the late thirties,which makes me a little short of RS in the middle period ministers..but who really cares RS was not a political factor then..and I guess that option will only be taken by Labour hardliners anyway.....

But there were some real goodies in your pics,incl the forevermissing Ruttledge who should be in the start cabinet,gee he looks world weary.Joe Conolly was a major bonus too.But the real goodies are the High Command pic(I've IDed everyone in the front row) and then that Army Sports pic....very funny pic btw.Spent the whole day making Irish pics.
 
Halibutt said:
You still have this opportunity - just point it to whatever folder you like. It is but a self-installer with some gfx added. After that - you can spend your whole life watching the file.
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Okay got it now....:)
 
Ivan the red said:
I've sent you my last work. I've changed my chip, from "who could have work for that cabinet" to "who should have work with that cabinet". I've come into a very neat thing, I think, and very few ministers used with more than one ideology.

How about my idea to encourage players to choose democratic or change goverment by giving a bonus tolerance?


Ah, and something else... last day I observed that in the last patch Himmler has a rating of 3! I hope you'll have sink him to 0 (he suits perfectly for your own description of a skill 0 leader: "someone that should never have been given a command") :)
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I've replied to you in quite a comprehensive mail....it is a terrific job you are doing and a splendid one too...especially for one who hasn't actually seen how these elections work in the game...:)About the other idea there is a simpler way I have come around that.....or forcing the player to choose the right option and that is by the use of dissent.

well he is down to 1 know,should stop the AI from using him so much.He is the only German who has skill 1 now.I actually don't think there are any skill 0 generals left except in some totally obscure countries...:)
(Like Denmark....:)
 
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and Ireland made with new csv,ministers,elections and INC36 and 60 pics...and sent

Italy next.I will do it somewhat like Germany a quick 36 election solely for the player to choose what way he will go and to secure that the AI chooses right for the war a reshuffle thing in 39.followed by the coup that ousted Mussolini,thse will be PA,and the FA will disappear and become NS to reflect that Benito now only was a puppy,then a 1945 election which removes NS as an option except in KEEP CURRENT,we will kill Benito and find someone to suceed him,,,wonder who btw.The last election will be LC-LE-PA-NS there was always a quite strong democratic opposition to Benito,and the commies although not really ST were always a factor in Italy.
 
birch23 said:
I've replied to you in quite a comprehensive mail....it is a terrific job you are doing and a splendid one too...especially for one who hasn't actually seen how these elections work in the game...:)About the other idea there is a simpler way I have come around that.....or forcing the player to choose the right option and that is by the use of dissent.

well he is down to 1 know,should stop the AI from using him so much.He is the only German who has skill 1 now.I actually don't think there are any skill 0 generals left except in some totally obscure countries...:)
(Like Denmark....:)
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In my last game I seen a Denmark AI performing quite well (seized Kiel, Rostock and Hamburg) ;)

Dissent, yes, I have to apply dissention, and changes in alignment. I'll made a Nat. attemp now... however, should I consider a fascist SPR or a commie SPA? That should be a bit silly, if someone wants a fascist SPR, then play SPA!
 
Ivan the red said:
In my last game I seen a Denmark AI performing quite well (seized Kiel, Rostock and Hamburg) ;)

Dissent, yes, I have to apply dissention, and changes in alignment. I'll made a Nat. attemp now... however, should I consider a fascist SPR or a commie SPA? That should be a bit silly, if someone wants a fascist SPR, then play SPA!
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Well you must have a serious bug in your game when it comes to DK....:)

I've written a few notes regarding dissent but perhaps I should widen it with an example;Now lets say we have a democratic gov.with three options LC-CE-RS and in real world LC won huge then I would give them dissent -5 CE -4 and RS-2 and KC-2 if it was close to a tie it would be -4-4-4-4 you see I have weakened the KC option considerably to encourage the player further to choose the historical option.When it comes to Coup d'Etat it is a bit different,because some of these were highly popular which means a -dissent and some were not which means a +dissent,and in the cases of the reshuffles in Gov (change of HOG/HOS during the "election period" I sometimes uses that for either -dissent or plus dissent if we are approaching a coup d'etat which was popular (This is more likely in latin America)

as for alignment yes Vulture was basically right when he said that there is a spread of 200 in the ideologies,but that is only if you see it as a triangle(bit difficult to explain) if you move along one of the lines there is only a spread of 100 i.e from D to C in line and from middle of bottom line to center F. again 100 it is when you begin to move around inside the triangle it gets a little difficult and complicated but basically you can see it as a graph x and y line as the INC more or less explains.which means that if you want to move from total democracy to say close to F on the triangle line between D and F you should write for example D-40 F40 that should in rough terms place the circle where you want it.All this gets a very difficult if there are major changes in gov ideologies.like F going to C etc.

Basically you should only think in terms of the historical path and make the alignment in choice 1 from that,if you run say a CE alongside it all the time then you should make the alignment in the first CE possibility...FROM the first historical option(confused... :rofl: and after that just keep the CE possibility with a no align change,because we can't really implement if a player takes all kinds of ahistorical jumps around..which is why I have applied this KISS principle...and yes I will have to rewrite the first elections a bit yet.

No Spain is a bit special that way,there should not be FA option in SPR (LC-PA or whatever democratic option will do) neither should there be a commie option in SPA.It is the same as for some the Arabic countries where a commie option(ST as it is usually is totally out of the question,although I used the LWR for the left wing (later Baath nationalists) in Iraq.

You will also have to add claims(or should I do that?) because we have widened that very much,I think SPR should stay with the Gibraltar claim while SPA easily can be broadened to all Portuguese provinces except core Portugal.This broadening have actually resulted in some minor wars so far aside the BIG one....very fun to watch,at times it also cedes provinces actually,it is now real easy for a Bolivia player to get access to the ocean.(it is however unlikely that AI Bolivia will ever get to that)
 
Eeeehrr... uhhh... thanks for the explanation ;)

But something is still obscure to me: You talk about 4-choice elections. As far as I know, we have 3 options (Left/laboursist, Right/conservative and KC). The 4th option should be using some other line from the existing event text file.

About the claims I'm a bit confused, but Salazar in Portugal supported SPA so I don't think that SPA would go for the Iberian Unification, while in the other hand a commie SPR has good chances of attacking them or at least support a revolution (that was just what Salazar feared). In fact if a revolution is succesfull in Spain then the portuguese should face a coup attemp.
 
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Ivan the red said:
Eeeehrr... uhhh... thanks for the explanation ;)

But something is still obscure to me: You talk about 4-choice elections. As far as I know, we have 3 options (Left/laboursist, Right/conservative and KC). The 4th option should be using some other line from the existing event text file.

About the claims I'm a bit confused, but Salazar in Portugal supported SPA so I don't think that SPA would go for the Iberian Unification, while in the other hand a commie SPR has good chances of attacking them or at least support a revolution (that was just what Salazar feared). In fact if a revolution is succesfull in Spain then the portuguese should face a coup attemp.
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No we can make a 4 way election,we do that quite often,A= Left B=Right C=Labour D=Conservative (or KC)...see that is the beauty of this...and it was Vulture's idea....:)

Claims..well we have(are)adding a lot more historical claims a bit like the CBs in EU2 anc changing some.In some cases like Scandinavia we have to go pretty far out in history,but that's fun.So what I meant that besides the claim on Gibraltar which both SPR/SPA have they should have claims on Portugal(and vice versa) and as I think SPR should stay with the Gibraltar claim..they are after all the democratic option..:) SPA could easily claim the Portugues colonies in Africa.and Portugal could claim the Spanish Africa colinies (Treaty of Tordesillas...:) while I don't think a claim on the mainland would be...say correct in 1936.As an example of the opposite though we npw have Austria claiming all of Hungary (Austro-Hungary)...:) (not at all unlikely btw.)But it has more effect in Latin America,although I have actually seen that the Estonian claims have dramatically changed their behaviour.
 
Vulture said:
@ Birch... That green background doesn't show in game IIRC... It's transparent ;)
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well...thanks I haven't bought the game yet,I want to finish this first...:)Are you drowning in elections now?.There are plenty to come....:) But if you arw busy I could of course make them,although it will be a matter of paste etc, cause I haven't got that sharp () thingy on my keyboard.And since I'm slightly rewriting the first ones anyway....:)

By the way an important question,if I sleep a minister in say 39 then I don't have to do that in all the further elections do I?
 
birch23 said:
No we can make a 4 way election,we do that quite often,A= Left B=Right C=Labour D=Conservative (or KC)...see that is the beauty of this...and it was Vulture's idea....:)
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Sounds a bit dirthy... "Labour Party" and "Conservative Party" will not look good in many countries...

birch23 said:
Claims..well we have(are)adding a lot more historical claims a bit like the CBs in EU2 anc changing some.In some cases like Scandinavia we have to go pretty far out in history,but that's fun.So what I meant that besides the claim on Gibraltar which both SPR/SPA have they should have claims on Portugal(and vice versa) and as I think SPR should stay with the Gibraltar claim..they are after all the democratic option..:) SPA could easily claim the Portugues colonies in Africa.and Portugal could claim the Spanish Africa colinies (Treaty of Tordesillas...:) while I don't think a claim on the mainland would be...say correct in 1936.As an example of the opposite though we npw have Austria claiming all of Hungary (Austro-Hungary)...:) (not at all unlikely btw.)But it has more effect in Latin America,although I have actually seen that the Estonian claims have dramatically changed their behaviour.
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:wacko:

Oh, then Spain will claim all South America (at least recover Cuba and Philippines? :)), the the portugese will be claiming Brazil and the guyannes, Holland will claim South Africa, UK will claim USA, France claiming Canada... Oh, the best one, Spain claiming San Francisco :)

That could be funny. Also, this could "guide" the player to do more "historical" actions...
 
Italian Generals

A) Feldmarshal Graziani. :( Awful one! Resposible for the disastrous campaign of 1940 in North Africa, that costed Italy a whole arrmy and the shame of beign defeated by but some 30,000 british troops with a handful Matildas.
My proposal: rank 2, old guard. Or even worser.

B) Feldmarshal Badoglio. :mad: I'll spare you my comments upon this low figure. Anyway, in WWI he stopped the austrian offensive upon Piave river due to his logistical ability. In WWII, no field commands, only supreme HQ (for our disgrace).
My proposal: rank 2, old guard, logistic wizard.

C) Feldmarshal Balbo. :) OK he died in the early days of the war, nobody can make me changing idea he was the very best italian general. From his letters about logistical problems of N.Africa, 1936-1940, from his experience in WWI, and for his good strategical plan to invade Egypt, my proposal is: rank 3 (but I'd wish to cry 4), Commando, Logistical Wizard, and/or Superior Strategist.

D) Too many Panzer Leaders! They are closely more than whole the italian armored veichles existing in 1939! On the other hand, most italian commanders had 4 years experience of WWI, that for Italy had been overall a mountaign, winter war. I propose to give to Italy some 20 Winter Specialists (by now, only one enlisted!), and to erase 70%-80% Panzer Leaders.
 
Ivan the red said:
Sounds a bit dirthy... "Labour Party" and "Conservative Party" will not look good in many countries...



:wacko:

Oh, then Spain will claim all South America (at least recover Cuba and Philippines? :)), the the portugese will be claiming Brazil and the guyannes, Holland will claim South Africa, UK will claim USA, France claiming Canada... Oh, the best one, Spain claiming San Francisco :)

That could be funny. Also, this could "guide" the player to do more "historical" actions...
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No but it is the only option we have,if we want both to narrow the possibilities down and broaden the spectre of polticians too.

Ahh not that wild......:)
 
Hurin said:
A) Feldmarshal Graziani. :( Awful one! Resposible for the disastrous campaign of 1940 in North Africa, that costed Italy a whole arrmy and the shame of beign defeated by but some 30,000 british troops with a handful Matildas.
My proposal: rank 2, old guard. Or even worser.

B) Feldmarshal Badoglio. :mad: I'll spare you my comments upon this low figure. Anyway, in WWI he stopped the austrian offensive upon Piave river due to his logistical ability. In WWII, no field commands, only supreme HQ (for our disgrace).
My proposal: rank 2, old guard, logistic wizard.

C) Feldmarshal Balbo. :) OK he died in the early days of the war, nobody can make me changing idea he was the very best italian general. From his letters about logistical problems of N.Africa, 1936-1940, from his experience in WWI, and for his good strategical plan to invade Egypt, my proposal is: rank 3 (but I'd wish to cry 4), Commando, Logistical Wizard, and/or Superior Strategist.

D) Too many Panzer Leaders! They are closely more than whole the italian armored veichles existing in 1939! On the other hand, most italian commanders had 4 years experience of WWI, that for Italy had been overall a mountaign, winter war. I propose to give to Italy some 20 Winter Specialists (by now, only one enlisted!), and to erase 70%-80% Panzer Leaders.
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Yes I am doing the revision the final one on Italy now,and I was going to cut down on the panzer and give them more winter specialists...so I agree on that one...:)
 
Happy again....:)

While pic hunting for Italy (very few ministers lacking) I thought I think I will give it another go for the two extremly old pics of Adalberto and Filiberto I got....and guess what I GOT THEM;Adalberto in uniform (several) from 1938 incl air gen.Rezza and gen.di divisione Zincone...:) and Filiberto I got from a Brazilian society site,cause his daughter (or granddaughter) was getting married and they displayed a pic of Filiberto 1944 in full uniform....very nice of them.Besides that I got Pintor...YAHOO and as a goody admiral Thaon di Revel who also was along time minister(he was easy btw.)Besides that he can go strictly to Vicky too as he was a WW1 hero...gee he must have been old when he was a minister.Found a much better one of Beraudo di Pralermo than the one I cut out from a zillion group pic.I only lack Antonio Sorice now,but he will come in too (I hope) and hehehe found a great pic of Mussolini in high hat and tie..LOL..I think I will use that too somehow.(he looks even more stupid than in uniform... :) Found Giacomo Acerbo too,but alas a WW1 pic.and did not find a better one of Pirizio than the 1908 Olympic Medal Winner we got...:( After a long search Antonio Scuero came in too,alas in civilian,but that will do.(/he was not a commanding general as I recall)
 
birch23 said:
Yes I am doing the revision the final one on Italy now,and I was going to cut down on the panzer and give them more winter specialists...so I agree on that one...:)
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Winter Specialists for Italy?????? Just how many of them can get reassigned to a cushy alpine backwater? ;)

Some great work Birch. Keep it up! Must be like collecting those sticker albums, got, got, got, OH I NEED that one, swap you my Monty from abn Hussein!! :D
 
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