So many good questions...
Bu also, why did Britain build three armies and no fleets last year?
As a result it has now lost Scandinavia, while two of the armies are still sitting around uselessly in Britain. And Britain has only five fleets in total.
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So many good questions...
Bu also, why did Britain build three armies and no fleets last year?
As a result it has now lost Scandinavia, while two of the armies are still sitting around uselessly in Britain. And Britain has only five fleets in total.
Still need that retreat order. 2 hours till Winter deadline. 10 hours till Spring deadline.
"These retreats are written down (just like orders) and are revealed at once. No diplomacy or discussion takes place prior to writing retreat orders - all countries are on their own."
"These retreats are written down (just like orders) and are revealed at once. No diplomacy or discussion takes place prior to writing retreat orders - all countries are on their own."
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We can only take so much rum, sodomy, and the lash.So many good questions...
Bu also, why did Britain build three armies and no fleets last year?
As a result it has now lost Scandinavia, while two of the armies are still sitting around uselessly in Britain. And Britain has only five fleets in total.
Winter 1912
United Kingdom
Build F London
German Reich
Build F Berlin
Results
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As always, preliminary orders would be appreciated.
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The deadline for the Spring 1913 phase is in 8 hours,
02:00 GMT on Friday, June the 26th,
22:00 ET on Thursday, June the 25th,
19:00 PT on Thursday, June the 25th.
If you need more time you can ask for a 24 hour extension via PM.
United Kingdom
Build F London
German Reich
Build F Berlin
Results
_______________________________________________
As always, preliminary orders would be appreciated.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Spring 1913 phase is in 8 hours,
02:00 GMT on Friday, June the 26th,
22:00 ET on Thursday, June the 25th,
19:00 PT on Thursday, June the 25th.
If you need more time you can ask for a 24 hour extension via PM.
Spring 1913
United Kingdom
A Apulia - Albania (*Fails*)
A Belgium - Ruhr (*Fails*)
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A Edinburgh Holds
F English Channel Convoys A Wales - Picardy
F Holland - Kiel (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Albania (*Dislodged*)
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
A Tunis - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Tuscany
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Wales - Picardy
German Reich
F Berlin - Baltic Sea
F Denmark Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
A Munich Supports A Kiel (*Cut*)
F Sweden Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
Austro-Hungarian Empire
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Ankara Supports A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
F Greece Supports F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Rumania Holds
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste (*Cut*)
Russian Empire
A Sevastopol Holds
A Silesia Supports A Munich
A Smyrna Holds
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
A Warsaw - Ukraine
Ottoman Empire
F Constantinople Holds (*Dislodged*)
Retreats/Disbands
United Kingdom
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
Ottoman Empire
F Constantinople - Black Sea
Orders
Results
_______________________________________________
As always, preliminary orders would be appreciated.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Fall 1913 phase is in 24 hours,
02:00 GMT on Saturday, June the 27th,
22:00 ET on Friday, June the 26th,
19:00 PT on Friday, June the 26th.
If you need more time you can ask for a 24 hour extension via PM.
United Kingdom
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A Edinburgh Holds
F English Channel Convoys A Wales - Picardy
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Tunis - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Tuscany
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Wales - Picardy
German Reich
F Berlin - Baltic Sea
F Denmark Supports A Kiel
F Sweden Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
Austro-Hungarian Empire
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Ankara Supports A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
F Greece Supports F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Rumania Holds
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia
Russian Empire
A Sevastopol Holds
A Silesia Supports A Munich
A Smyrna Holds
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
A Warsaw - Ukraine
Ottoman Empire
Retreats/Disbands
United Kingdom
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
Ottoman Empire
F Constantinople - Black Sea
Orders
Results
_______________________________________________
As always, preliminary orders would be appreciated.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Fall 1913 phase is in 24 hours,
02:00 GMT on Saturday, June the 27th,
22:00 ET on Friday, June the 26th,
19:00 PT on Friday, June the 26th.
If you need more time you can ask for a 24 hour extension via PM.
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Fall 1913
United Kingdom
A Apulia - Naples
A Belgium - Ruhr (*Fails*)
A Burgundy - Munich (*Fails*)
A Edinburgh - Norway (*Fails*)
F English Channel Holds
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Kiel
F North Sea - Denmark (*Fails*)
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
A Picardy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Kiel (*Fails*)
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Tuscany Supports A Venice
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
German Reich
F Baltic Sea Supports F Kiel
F Denmark Supports A Kiel (*Cut*)
A Kiel Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
A Munich Supports A Kiel (*Cut*)
F Sweden Supports F Norway
Austro-Hungarian Empire
A Ankara Holds
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Bounce*)
F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea
F Ionian Sea Holds
A Rumania - Bulgaria (*Bounce*)
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste (*Cut*)
Russian Empire
F Norway Holds
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Silesia Supports A Munich
A Smyrna Holds
A Ukraine - Sevastopol
Ottoman Empire
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Fails*)
Orders
Results
Builds==Supply:
The United Kingdom: -1==14
The German Reich: 0==5
The Austro-Hungarian Empire: 1==9
The Russian Empire: 1==6
The Ottoman Empire: -1==0
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The Ottoman Empire has fallen.
The Ottoman Empire has finally fallen with the conquest of its capital, Constantinople, mirroring the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire that they themselves have conquered centuries ago, at this very spot. The Russian forces that have supported the city's defense in the past years have decided to stand aside as Austrian troops occupied the metropolis.
Tamius23, Rovsea, you have played well, and submitted orders on time. I hope to see you both in future games.
Tribute to the Ottoman Empire
_______________________________________________
Please submit build/disband orders ASAP. Winter update with be up as soon as all build orders are received. There is no Winter phase.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Spring 1914 phase is in 24 hours,
02:00 GMT on Sunday, June the 28th,
22:00 ET on Saturday, June the 27th,
19:00 PT on Saturday, June the 27th.
United Kingdom
A Apulia - Naples
F English Channel Holds
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Kiel
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
A Tuscany Supports A Venice
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
German Reich
F Baltic Sea Supports F Kiel
F Sweden Supports F Norway
Austro-Hungarian Empire
A Ankara Holds
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea
F Ionian Sea Holds
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia
Russian Empire
F Norway Holds
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Silesia Supports A Munich
A Smyrna Holds
A Ukraine - Sevastopol
Ottoman Empire
Orders
Results
Builds==Supply:
The United Kingdom: -1==14
The German Reich: 0==5
The Austro-Hungarian Empire: 1==9
The Russian Empire: 1==6
The Ottoman Empire: -1==0
_______________________________________________
The Ottoman Empire has fallen.
The Ottoman Empire has finally fallen with the conquest of its capital, Constantinople, mirroring the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire that they themselves have conquered centuries ago, at this very spot. The Russian forces that have supported the city's defense in the past years have decided to stand aside as Austrian troops occupied the metropolis.
Tamius23, Rovsea, you have played well, and submitted orders on time. I hope to see you both in future games.
Tribute to the Ottoman Empire
_______________________________________________
Please submit build/disband orders ASAP. Winter update with be up as soon as all build orders are received. There is no Winter phase.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Spring 1914 phase is in 24 hours,
02:00 GMT on Sunday, June the 28th,
22:00 ET on Saturday, June the 27th,
19:00 PT on Saturday, June the 27th.
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Au revoir, Turkey. In spite of everything, it was with a heavy heart that I ordered A Smy Hold. If only we could have been happy together...
Winter 1913
United Kingdom
Disband A Tuscany
Austro-Hungarian Empire
Build A Vienna
Russian Empire
Build A St Petersburg
Ottoman Empire
Disband F Black Sea
Results
_______________________________________________
As always, preliminary orders would be appreciated.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Spring 1914 phase is in 14 hours,
02:00 GMT on Sunday, June the 28th,
22:00 ET on Saturday, June the 27th,
19:00 PT on Saturday, June the 27th.
If you need more time you can ask for a 24 hour extension via PM.
United Kingdom
Disband A Tuscany
Austro-Hungarian Empire
Build A Vienna
Russian Empire
Build A St Petersburg
Ottoman Empire
Disband F Black Sea
Results
_______________________________________________
As always, preliminary orders would be appreciated.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Spring 1914 phase is in 14 hours,
02:00 GMT on Sunday, June the 28th,
22:00 ET on Saturday, June the 27th,
19:00 PT on Saturday, June the 27th.
If you need more time you can ask for a 24 hour extension via PM.
I must say, the fact that somehow, despite a remarkable 20 to 14 SC advantage, the fact that the remaining alliance against Britain doesn't even have naval supremacy is disappointing, especially given how lax Britain has been building up its fleet in the first place.
Russia and Austria have 3 armies each in or near Turkey that haven't been contributing to the fight, so that's 14 v 14. And when the alliance formed, we couldn't even cooperate together and our advantage was only 18 to 16 (IIRC).
Now we're working together, and we'll soon be able to bring all our forces to the frontline. England better tremble!
(Of course, it won't last. But hey)
What I envision happening is hundreds of thousands of young German boys will die in the trenches trying to make headway against the British front, and just when Germany's combat power has culminated, Russia and Austria will carve up what remains of Germany.
Let's be frank, there isn't much Russia and Austria can do to probe the fringes of the British Empire. The fight is in the center, and only Germany can participate in it.
Let's be frank, there isn't much Russia and Austria can do to probe the fringes of the British Empire. The fight is in the center, and only Germany can participate in it.
Either way, now that Turkey is gone...
We find ourselves today in a peculiar situation. Neither England, nor the Austro-Russian alliance have a stalemate line on their own. Therefore Germany is in a "kingmaker" position: Whoever we support wins, but it is almost impossible for us to win alone.
While a draw is certainly not as good as a win, it is certainly better than an outright loss. So Germany accepts. As for the others, let me spell out the possible outcomes for you:
Both parties agree to a draw: 4-way draw.
Austria and Russia do, but England doesn't: Germany fights with Russia and Austria until England agrees, or is defeated.
England does, but Austria and/or Russia don't: Germany fights with England until Austria and Russia agree or England wins.
No other party agrees: The fighting continues as it is today.
Germany Proposes a 4-way Draw
We find ourselves today in a peculiar situation. Neither England, nor the Austro-Russian alliance have a stalemate line on their own. Therefore Germany is in a "kingmaker" position: Whoever we support wins, but it is almost impossible for us to win alone.
While a draw is certainly not as good as a win, it is certainly better than an outright loss. So Germany accepts. As for the others, let me spell out the possible outcomes for you:
Both parties agree to a draw: 4-way draw.
Austria and Russia do, but England doesn't: Germany fights with Russia and Austria until England agrees, or is defeated.
England does, but Austria and/or Russia don't: Germany fights with England until Austria and Russia agree or England wins.
No other party agrees: The fighting continues as it is today.
Spring 1914
United Kingdom
A Belgium - Holland
A Burgundy - Munich (*Fails*)
A Edinburgh Holds
F English Channel Supports F Holland - North Sea
F Holland - North Sea
A Naples Holds
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
A Picardy - Belgium
A Piedmont Supports A Venice
A Ruhr Supports A Belgium - Holland
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Venice Holds
German Reich
F Baltic Sea Supports F Kiel
F Denmark Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Munich
A Munich Supports A Kiel (*Cut*)
F Sweden Supports F Norway
Austro-Hungarian Empire
A Ankara Holds
A Bohemia Supports A Vienna - Tyrolia[/s] (*Fails*)
A Constantinople Supports A Ankara
F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea
F Ionian Sea Holds
A Rumania Holds
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)
A Vienna - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
Russian Empire
A Armenia Supports A Smyrna
F Norway Supports F Sweden - Skagerrak (*Void*)
A Sevastopol Holds
A Silesia Supports A Munich
A Smyrna Supports A Armenia
A St Petersburg Supports F Norway
Orders
Results
_______________________________________________
As always, preliminary orders would be appreciated.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Fall 1914 phase is in 48 hours,
02:00 GMT on Monday, June the 29th,
22:00 ET on Sunday, June the 28th,
19:00 PT on Sunday, June the 28th.
If you need more time you can ask for a 24 hour extension via PM.
United Kingdom
A Belgium - Holland
A Edinburgh Holds
F English Channel Supports F Holland - North Sea
F Holland - North Sea
A Naples Holds
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
A Picardy - Belgium
A Piedmont Supports A Venice
A Ruhr Supports A Belgium - Holland
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Venice Holds
German Reich
F Baltic Sea Supports F Kiel
F Denmark Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Munich
F Sweden Supports F Norway
Austro-Hungarian Empire
A Ankara Holds
A Bohemia Supports A Vienna - Tyrolia[/s] (*Fails*)
A Constantinople Supports A Ankara
F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea
F Ionian Sea Holds
A Rumania Holds
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
Russian Empire
A Armenia Supports A Smyrna
A Sevastopol Holds
A Silesia Supports A Munich
A Smyrna Supports A Armenia
A St Petersburg Supports F Norway
Orders
Results
_______________________________________________
As always, preliminary orders would be appreciated.
_______________________________________________
The deadline for the Fall 1914 phase is in 48 hours,
02:00 GMT on Monday, June the 29th,
22:00 ET on Sunday, June the 28th,
19:00 PT on Sunday, June the 28th.
If you need more time you can ask for a 24 hour extension via PM.
I can see a couple ways to break it without changing alliances. Great Britain can only hope to maintain it's current position if it manages to ally someone. Considering their moves, they probably aren't too interested in allying Russia.
2 free units: A Vie and one of A Boh or A Sil are not required to defend against England nor to defend own borders. The removal of these units do not compromise the defensive posture against England.
Okay, I'm willing to accept a draw. Theoretically Russia could still win, but it's a long shot in the dark. Great Britain can't win on it's own, nor can Austria, Germany or myself, due to everyone having units well positioned to stop potential stabs (Austria can't be stabbed, I can't be stabbed by Germany or Austria without a compromise in the defenses against Britain, and Germany could be stabbed but Great Britain has more units closer to German SC's and they would benefit far more than either myself or Austria.
Under these circumstances, the draw doesn't seem an unfair outcome, given that nobody can both be the first to stab and win the game, barring a concerted effort from the stabbed player to assure that the one who stabbed achieves victory.
Under these circumstances, the draw doesn't seem an unfair outcome, given that nobody can both be the first to stab and win the game, barring a concerted effort from the stabbed player to assure that the one who stabbed achieves victory.