NDH was proclaimed on 10th April 1941,and Yugoslavia was still at war for a week or so.And you cannot release Croatia before Yugo surrenders
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I have a question.
I am playing Germany, I capture Belgium, and a GiE forms. All territories liknked to their capital become occupied and i choose an occupation policy. If there is a "revolter" in european belgium, i can release them (since they don't have the same tag as Belgium).
Later, I storm belgian colonies in Africa. Will they immediately come under the occupation policy i have chosen for Belgium? Will i be able to release african puppets (Belgium has already surrendered and has a gie)?
I am playing Germany, I capture Belgium, and a GiE forms. All territories liknked to their capital become occupied and i choose an occupation policy. If there is a "revolter" in european belgium, i can release them (since they don't have the same tag as Belgium).
Later, I storm belgian colonies in Africa. Will they immediately come under the occupation policy i have chosen for Belgium? Will i be able to release african puppets (Belgium has already surrendered and has a gie)?
I think it was said somewhere else in the thread that you can not now (you could in HOI2 with Flanders/Wallonia).
Interesting questions - in HOI2 they were counted as National Provinces for Belgium. Hmm...
as far as I know, although Belgium had surrended, Congo will continue being part of Belgium
Congo will still be Belgian yeah
and I believe that you can release Flanders, because when the GiE forms, you, as Germany, own the Belgian possesions in Europe
and I believe that you can release Flanders, because when the GiE forms, you, as Germany, own the Belgian possesions in Europe
And I bet that they don't.
More importantly, that goes against the grain of "we want less rigid events," which was the party line for a while now.
Frankly, why can't there just be severe restrictions on puppets? Low national unity, morale penalties, etc. Whatever, I don't care. I just don't want every situation like this (of which there were, plausibly, a dozen at least during the war) being shoved into the event system.
HoI2 actually reached a good balance in this respect because it severely penalized excessive puppeting. I don't see why they have such a need to rock the boat :wacko:
Not my solution. But because we see a clearly autonomous Croatia on the 1941 screen, and from what we know of the GiE system, there is no other explanation than Croatian (and by extension Ukrainian etc) statehood is event / decision driven.
It's not perfect, but it's better than HoI2 where postwar Europe was a complete abortion.
It's not perfect, but it's better than HoI2 where postwar Europe was a complete abortion.
I don't know if it's been said already but I just noticed that in the top right of the screenshot you can see that the politics tab is on 'expert', together with arrows for changing them
So could this mean that you can change AI/user control over the different tabs during the game? So you could start off a 1936 scenario and control everything yourself, until war starts and then you give some of the tabs over to AI control to focus on the fighting...
So could this mean that you can change AI/user control over the different tabs during the game? So you could start off a 1936 scenario and control everything yourself, until war starts and then you give some of the tabs over to AI control to focus on the fighting...
IIRC it was already said that Yugoslavia won't form a GiE.
It makes sense, since all their national territory is occupied, they simple surrender. France, Belgium and Netherlands would have still their colonies to keep the fight.
Also, it was said that you can have only one policy for each country. But I think that it doesn't apply for the colonies, so, I guess that you can set a occupation policy for UK, but if you occupy Egypt you can set a different policy.
In the case of occupy Belgium and Congo, well, the GiE has to surrender, I think, cause you've occupied all the country territory, then, you may be able to release puppets, dividing the former country.
Much of that seems to have been superseded in HoI3. Total occupation will not result in the 'annexation' of the country until the GiE is eliminated - if then.
Despite full occupation Yugoslavia clearly does have a GiE in one of the mid-war scenarios because we have a political screenshot of Europe with the 'occupation stripes' covering the whole country but Croatia.
It's a step in the right direction. Annexation in HoI2 was completely arbitrary. Occupied Belgium would have partisan values up to 6 times that of metropolitan France - and province improvements could not be built there - just because they still controlled the Congo. The only way round was by means of events ceding the homeland to Germany and moving the capital out to the colonies, which was not only unrealistic but led to migraines when the Allies came in and the old borders had to be reestablished.
Despite full occupation Yugoslavia clearly does have a GiE in one of the mid-war scenarios because we have a political screenshot of Europe with the 'occupation stripes' covering the whole country but Croatia.
It's a step in the right direction. Annexation in HoI2 was completely arbitrary. Occupied Belgium would have partisan values up to 6 times that of metropolitan France - and province improvements could not be built there - just because they still controlled the Congo. The only way round was by means of events ceding the homeland to Germany and moving the capital out to the colonies, which was not only unrealistic but led to migraines when the Allies came in and the old borders had to be reestablished.
That's because even if Yugo surrenders, their territory continue to belong to the former country, as I understood from the Dev Diary.
But Croatia, as a new nation, has it's own territory since you've released it.
But as I understood it, the GiE will exist post-surrender, hence 'territory still belongs to the former country' as you say.
No, and please don't ask these kind of questions they just cause trouble.
Welcome to a totalitarian forum. Don't ask the wrong questions or you'll get in trouble
No because it leads to topics about the holocaust and flamewars about allied war crimes vs German war crimes and then the Neo-Nazis emerge from the woodwork.
Besides this is a privately owned forum where paradox has the right to forbid any topic they want. You don't like that? go start your own forum. If Paradox wants to ban any topics on cake they have the legal right to do that.
