can't change inheritance law in my main duchy

[Drukaris]

i'm the wendish emperor - agnatic/cognatic elective
i'm the king of lithuania - agnatic/cognatic elective
my only duchy/demesne is the duchy of lithuania - and that's somehow primogeniture

i can't change duchy inheritance law for my own demesne, it only shows kingdom and emperor level laws
also i never changed anything to be primogeniture

has it maybe something to do with my demesne being de facto the duchy of samogitia and duchy of lithuania while my capital is in the samogitia part?

please tell me i can fix this - my dumb "soon to be" 0 diplomacy 13 intrigue brother gets ALL my duke titles

 

[Rockphed]

If a dynasty member is winning the election, they should get the desmense and duchies. Sounds like you are about to lose the election.

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

Save, reboot, and reload.

See if this forces the game to think about what it is doing.

 

[Drukaris]

If a dynasty member is winning the election, they should get the desmense and duchies. Sounds like you are about to lose the election.

my preferred heir is winning the king election and loosing the emperor election
when nothing changes a vassal becomes emperor, me (player character heir) becomes king of lithuania and my brother gets the high chiefdom/entire demesne - i'd be king but have no land at all

edit

main point is my duchy has a different law than my other two titles (king, emperor)
first, that should not be the case
second, i never set anything to primogeniture or even changed duchy laws at all (by default it was gravelkind elective)
third, can't change the law for duchies now

Save, reboot, and reload.

tried that, didn't work

 

[Admiral_Obvious]

I do believe that this is a part of the De Jure and De Facto speration you have.

Last I checked, if your titles are all De Jure, then your inheritance law should "trickle down" all the way.

If the titles you hold are outside of your De Jure territory, and it's not a primary title, it's going to copy the succession law of whatever the De Jure title above it is (if it exists), otherwise it would default to standard Gavelkind, unless it was changed prior and the title destroyed.

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

I do believe that this is a part of the De Jure and De Facto speration you have.

Last I checked, if your titles are all De Jure, then your inheritance law should "trickle down" all the way.

If the titles you hold are outside of your De Jure territory, and it's not a primary title, it's going to copy the succession law of whatever the De Jure title above it is (if it exists), otherwise it would default to standard Gavelkind, unless it was changed prior and the title destroyed.

d_lithuania should be under k_lithuania though, and inherit the laws from there.

 

[Admiral_Obvious]

has it maybe something to do with my demesne being de facto the duchy of samogitia and duchy of lithuania while my capital is in the samogitia part?

d_lithuania should be under k_lithuania though, and inherit the laws from there.

It looks like some drift might've happened.

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

It looks like some drift might've happened.

Maybe.

I read it as the OP holding land in both duchies, but holding them via k_lithuania.

d_samogitia starts in k_lithuania as well.

 

[Boodas]

I believe it has something to do with how elective succession works. A while back in the HRE. Elective succession would cause the current ruling emperor to lose almost all his titles except for a few counties if his dynasty did not win the next election. To rectify this paradox changed how elective worked. If your top tier title was elective then you would retain all lower tier titles as long as they themselves are not elective. Since e_wendish_empire and k_lithuania are both elective the game sets the duchy below Lithuania to primogeniture in order to ensure that if the dynasty in power loses the election, they will not simply become landless and fade into obscurity.

If you want to maintain some sort of elective succession while allowing your chosen heir to inherit all your titles, then switch to tanistry. If that's not feasible or possible then you will just have to either accept your vassals preferred heir, not your chosen one, or switch to gavelkind/primogeniture.

 

[faiuwle]

This is just how elective works. If your primary title is elective and you lose it to a non-dynasty member, all of your counties and duchies inherit according to agnatic-cognatic primo, regardless of whether you have a kingdom title (or even a secondary empire title). It's why you shouldn't have multiple elective titles, and why you shouldn't hold kingdoms that are not agnatic-cognatic primogeniture while you have an empire that is elective.

 

[Drukaris]

@Admiral_Obvious
no, that's not it - i created samogitia to have everything i own "de jure" and it didn't solve anything

d_lithuania should be under k_lithuania though, and inherit the laws from there.

yes that's what i was thinking too
but according to @Boodas and @faiuwle (thx for the info) my duchy succession law CHANGES from day to day depending on how the election of my primary title is coming along ...
if that is true, that's some serious bullshit

"eenie meenie miney mo - duke of the demesne? today, it's you!"

edit

ok that's really how it works. now that my preferred heir is going to be elected emperor, law for my duchy suddenly is elective and not primogeniture anymore - ridiculous!

and even better, primogeniture is not even a valid succession law since i have no late or imperial administration

at the very least duchy law should revert to regular gravelkind. but even then i don't see why the ruler shouldn't be able to change duchy law

update

wow, now the high chiefs of the kingdom of lithuania all vote for a guy that they barely like (highest 28), despite all of them having a high opinion of me (lowest is 68)

elective monarchy is just a mess