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jmhawk said:White Peace?!?
If only all AI countries were so lenient.
In retrospect, perhaps I was the lenient one...? America was beginning to fall apart by this point and it's possible I could have fought on for a couple more years and stripped America of some of their colonies.
The striking thing about the USA at the start of the war was that although their divisional strength wasn't all that impressive- around 80 divisions or someting- they had a massive reserve of manpower, around 3000. Of course, that and more was used up during the course of this war, and by the end I think our forces were approaching equal strength. Mind you, they were also approaching Mexico City. Hence my relief when they offered White Peace.
Part Nineteen: Resting on our laurels
The war over, demoralised and exhausted American armies began the long march home.
Inspired by Mexico's success, parts of Yemen applied for membership of the League. They were happily accepted.
Neighbouring Oman was offered huge rewards to cede their colony of Mombasa. Their refusal insulted Mexico and the League and they were punished.
The war was over within six months, with all of Oman's African holdings taken.
Frustrated by her failure against Mexico, the US turned to easier prey- Spain, for the second time. Mexico made the most of the distraction of her nemesis. Her infrastructure was unmatched and the economy provided more money than the government could spend.
Further deals were concluded with the Ottomans and Portugal to rationalise the League's African frontiers. In 1914 her population reached a landmark 50 million, 6th in the world. The following year, Mexico began the construction of a modern navy.
America's second war with Spain raged on into 1915. After much bloodshed, the USA had rested control of much of Spain from that nation.
However the peace that America settled for made the costs seem even higher- only a few scraps of Africa territory were gained. However with her foe undistracted Mexico became deeply concerned that war would break out. Belatedly, a massive scheme to fortify the frontier was undertaken, and the number of battleships under construction increased to five. This, however, was insignificant in world terms.
World naval balance, 1915
Bizarrely, the USA declared colonial war on 22nd April 1916 without provocation, though not unexpectedly. The US Navy had the Mexican coast blockaded so the war in North Africa would have to be fought entirely by forces raised there, against the entire might of the USA.
Although the only accessible American colonies were in North Africa, there was another key theatre: the American home front. They were already totally exhausted from all their long wars. The war began with a brief mobile phase in Morocco.
But quickly the US shipped over large forces, veterans of the war in Spain, and ejected the Mexicans from Morocco.
A strong line was formed in Algeria to hold the Americans. The enemy reached this line in early 1917, attacking along the coast. By this time there were 59 American and 32 Mexican divisions in Northwest Africa
The initial offensive against the Algerian line failed for 1/4 million American casualties, and by June these losses coupled with freshly recruited native troops made the two sides roughly equal in strength. As such, the Mexican army launched a counterattack against the Americans' unprotected desert flank
As the army swung around into Morocco, the Americans began to react- but their main line was already being undermined.
As Winter began, the battle regained a degree of fluidity. The Mexican army attacked and captured part of the American line, whilst they counterattacked the original Mexican thrust.
With heavy fighting going along all along the front, the new year of 1918 saw the war in the balance. This year would be decisive.
Next: Mexico Ascendant
Annoying that America chose colonial war. I would have had an easier time in a regular war as my frontier was well defended.
The war over, demoralised and exhausted American armies began the long march home.
Inspired by Mexico's success, parts of Yemen applied for membership of the League. They were happily accepted.
Neighbouring Oman was offered huge rewards to cede their colony of Mombasa. Their refusal insulted Mexico and the League and they were punished.
The war was over within six months, with all of Oman's African holdings taken.
Frustrated by her failure against Mexico, the US turned to easier prey- Spain, for the second time. Mexico made the most of the distraction of her nemesis. Her infrastructure was unmatched and the economy provided more money than the government could spend.
Further deals were concluded with the Ottomans and Portugal to rationalise the League's African frontiers. In 1914 her population reached a landmark 50 million, 6th in the world. The following year, Mexico began the construction of a modern navy.
America's second war with Spain raged on into 1915. After much bloodshed, the USA had rested control of much of Spain from that nation.
However the peace that America settled for made the costs seem even higher- only a few scraps of Africa territory were gained. However with her foe undistracted Mexico became deeply concerned that war would break out. Belatedly, a massive scheme to fortify the frontier was undertaken, and the number of battleships under construction increased to five. This, however, was insignificant in world terms.
World naval balance, 1915
Bizarrely, the USA declared colonial war on 22nd April 1916 without provocation, though not unexpectedly. The US Navy had the Mexican coast blockaded so the war in North Africa would have to be fought entirely by forces raised there, against the entire might of the USA.
Although the only accessible American colonies were in North Africa, there was another key theatre: the American home front. They were already totally exhausted from all their long wars. The war began with a brief mobile phase in Morocco.
But quickly the US shipped over large forces, veterans of the war in Spain, and ejected the Mexicans from Morocco.
A strong line was formed in Algeria to hold the Americans. The enemy reached this line in early 1917, attacking along the coast. By this time there were 59 American and 32 Mexican divisions in Northwest Africa
The initial offensive against the Algerian line failed for 1/4 million American casualties, and by June these losses coupled with freshly recruited native troops made the two sides roughly equal in strength. As such, the Mexican army launched a counterattack against the Americans' unprotected desert flank
As the army swung around into Morocco, the Americans began to react- but their main line was already being undermined.
As Winter began, the battle regained a degree of fluidity. The Mexican army attacked and captured part of the American line, whilst they counterattacked the original Mexican thrust.
With heavy fighting going along all along the front, the new year of 1918 saw the war in the balance. This year would be decisive.
Next: Mexico Ascendant
Annoying that America chose colonial war. I would have had an easier time in a regular war as my frontier was well defended.
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Part Twenty: Mexico Ascendant
As 1918 began, the battle in North Africa was in the balance. Whilst Mexico has been able to stem the tide of the US advance as well as make a successful counterattack, the Americans had a huge advantage in terms of manpower. They could replace their armies twice over- Mexico could not.
More forces were thrown into the counterattack, with the aim of undermining the American line.
A force of over 300,000 men pushed out to the West. The American line here was only thinly held and there was nothing behind it.
This force destroyed the American positions at Tafilet over the course of March, but in April it was called back as the line was collapsing further north.
By June, the Americans were sealed in and their position was becoming extremely precarious.
In August, Mexican forces reached the Atlantic at Rabat. The American situation was critical, as Mexico could destroy their forces on the north coast of Africa given enough time. Substantial reinforcements were, however, in the process of landing in southern Morocco. Mexico had to destroy the Northern force before the Americans could bring the full weight of their military to bear in the south.
October saw an American offer to end the war and return to the status quo, whilst Mexican forces were poised to squash their troops clinging to Morroco's northern coast. After an eight-hour debate in the Mexican parliament, the offer was rejected. The United States was the enemy of not just Mexico but of every free nation in the world- a threat to stability which could not be tolerated. They must be punished for their aggression, or it would only be repeated in the future. It would, however, prove difficult.
Next: A lesson given
A lot of action in less than a year here. I was going to run to 1920 in just one update- but I like how this ends here.
As 1918 began, the battle in North Africa was in the balance. Whilst Mexico has been able to stem the tide of the US advance as well as make a successful counterattack, the Americans had a huge advantage in terms of manpower. They could replace their armies twice over- Mexico could not.
More forces were thrown into the counterattack, with the aim of undermining the American line.
A force of over 300,000 men pushed out to the West. The American line here was only thinly held and there was nothing behind it.
This force destroyed the American positions at Tafilet over the course of March, but in April it was called back as the line was collapsing further north.
By June, the Americans were sealed in and their position was becoming extremely precarious.
In August, Mexican forces reached the Atlantic at Rabat. The American situation was critical, as Mexico could destroy their forces on the north coast of Africa given enough time. Substantial reinforcements were, however, in the process of landing in southern Morocco. Mexico had to destroy the Northern force before the Americans could bring the full weight of their military to bear in the south.
October saw an American offer to end the war and return to the status quo, whilst Mexican forces were poised to squash their troops clinging to Morroco's northern coast. After an eight-hour debate in the Mexican parliament, the offer was rejected. The United States was the enemy of not just Mexico but of every free nation in the world- a threat to stability which could not be tolerated. They must be punished for their aggression, or it would only be repeated in the future. It would, however, prove difficult.
Next: A lesson given
A lot of action in less than a year here. I was going to run to 1920 in just one update- but I like how this ends here.
I'm reading itGolden_Deliciou said:Two updates and no comments....? Is no-one reading this at all
Keep going, we can all celebrate the spectacular ending that's expected.
jmhawk said:I'm reading it
Keep going, we can all celebrate the spectacular ending that's expected.
Well, it should come this week. The remaining two years will be one short update and then there will be a (fictional) epilogue.
Heh.
only two updates and no comments.. I haven't checked but I think I may have managed as many a four myself. Anyway..
Good work fighting the USA - they are really icky and deeply persistent. It can feel like trying to stop a waterfall. Amazing how they ended up taking over mainland Spain. Suggests to me that the AI is a bit too deeply warmonger.
Don't you think that the title of the post rather gives the eventual outcome away?
heretic
only two updates and no comments.. I haven't checked but I think I may have managed as many a four myself. Anyway..
Good work fighting the USA - they are really icky and deeply persistent. It can feel like trying to stop a waterfall. Amazing how they ended up taking over mainland Spain. Suggests to me that the AI is a bit too deeply warmonger.
Don't you think that the title of the post rather gives the eventual outcome away?
heretic
Heretic said:
I suppose. Well... I wasn't about to let the US beat me AGAIN, was I?
Part Twenty-one: Revenge
By the end of 1918, the US Army's lodgement in Africa was further divided into two large pockets. The one nearest to the reinforcements was reduced first, whilst desperate counterattacks from the other were beaten off.
As Winter turned into Spring, the southern arm of the American force was firmly hemmed in, and the Westernmost of the two pockets was earmarked for destruction, whilst the more easterly continued its futile attempt to break loose.
By the end of the Summer's campaigning season, the Americans had their backs to the wall at Tangiers. The last of them surrended in August, though a force had been landed from the sea at Casablanca.
Shortly after this success, however, the USA launched a fresh offensive from Agadir to try to link up with the surviving pockets elsewhere in Morocco. Once more, the campaign was in the balance. If the enemy prevailed in these efforts, the Mexicans could find themselves the ones being encircled.
In order to reinforce the wavering colonial army, it was decided to make an attempt to run the blockade. 20 Battleships would escort five divisions to Morocco from Mexico. They set sail in November but were caught of the coast of Puerto Rico by the US Navy. Seven Mexican battleships were lost, and the rest were chased back into port.
Despite this disaster, the situation in North Africa was eventually restored, with the Americans being pushed back until in December it was possible to begin the destruction of their force remaining on the Mediterranean coast, although US offensives elsewhere continued.
The remaining 18 divisions of this force were slowly but steadily pushed back until they were trapped at Tlemcen, and made to surrender in February. Now the Americans were hemmed in in the southern portion of Morocco. Whilst their total army was still an astonishing 250 divisions, they could not bring this force to bear, nor could they reinforce them- their manpower reserve has fallen from over 3 million men at the start of the war to just 150,000. As the 1920s began, the surviving divisions were being shepharded into smaller and smaller parts of Morocco.
The US was becoming desperate. Defended stretches of coastline came under assault several times over the Summer. Gradually, their remaining enclaves on the coast were worn down over the course of the year...
Ignore this screenshot...
The 1920 election saw Woodrow Wilson elected to the White House over the belligerent Harding, on a promise to end the war at any cost. The day before he took office in 1921, the American forces at Agadir surrendered to the Mexican Army. There were still nearly 200,000 American soldiers in Morocco, and Wilson was determined to spare them from death or service in the infamous Saharan Prisoner of War camps operated by the Mexican state.
[you'll have to forgive me for slipping into historical fiction for a second here]
Wilson was summoned to Mexico City by President Villa, the man who had succeeded Diaz as leader of the nation. Wilson stepped into the conference room and saw an old map of North America on the table in front of him;
"There must be some mistake," he began "this map shows Mexico's 1836 borders". Villa extinguished his cigar in the ashtray in front of him, "No, Señor, it shows Mexico's 1922 borders." Wilson felt his heart sink- how could he accept such a demand? He opened his mouth to protest when three other figures stepped up to the table. He recognised one as the Frenchman Clemenceau. The second seemed unfamiliar, but had a Mediterranean air about him. The third was easily identified. David Lloyd George indicated Villa with a nod, and Wilson saw the Mexican leader place a peice of paper on the table, facing him. Shaking, Wilson sat down. Remembering his election promise, he reached for the pen which lay next to him...
Four of "The Big Five", after the signing of the treaty of Tenochtitlan.
The End.
(I decided not to go for a seperate epilogue as it would have been a bit short)
By the end of 1918, the US Army's lodgement in Africa was further divided into two large pockets. The one nearest to the reinforcements was reduced first, whilst desperate counterattacks from the other were beaten off.
As Winter turned into Spring, the southern arm of the American force was firmly hemmed in, and the Westernmost of the two pockets was earmarked for destruction, whilst the more easterly continued its futile attempt to break loose.
By the end of the Summer's campaigning season, the Americans had their backs to the wall at Tangiers. The last of them surrended in August, though a force had been landed from the sea at Casablanca.
Shortly after this success, however, the USA launched a fresh offensive from Agadir to try to link up with the surviving pockets elsewhere in Morocco. Once more, the campaign was in the balance. If the enemy prevailed in these efforts, the Mexicans could find themselves the ones being encircled.
In order to reinforce the wavering colonial army, it was decided to make an attempt to run the blockade. 20 Battleships would escort five divisions to Morocco from Mexico. They set sail in November but were caught of the coast of Puerto Rico by the US Navy. Seven Mexican battleships were lost, and the rest were chased back into port.
Despite this disaster, the situation in North Africa was eventually restored, with the Americans being pushed back until in December it was possible to begin the destruction of their force remaining on the Mediterranean coast, although US offensives elsewhere continued.
The remaining 18 divisions of this force were slowly but steadily pushed back until they were trapped at Tlemcen, and made to surrender in February. Now the Americans were hemmed in in the southern portion of Morocco. Whilst their total army was still an astonishing 250 divisions, they could not bring this force to bear, nor could they reinforce them- their manpower reserve has fallen from over 3 million men at the start of the war to just 150,000. As the 1920s began, the surviving divisions were being shepharded into smaller and smaller parts of Morocco.
The US was becoming desperate. Defended stretches of coastline came under assault several times over the Summer. Gradually, their remaining enclaves on the coast were worn down over the course of the year...
Ignore this screenshot...
The 1920 election saw Woodrow Wilson elected to the White House over the belligerent Harding, on a promise to end the war at any cost. The day before he took office in 1921, the American forces at Agadir surrendered to the Mexican Army. There were still nearly 200,000 American soldiers in Morocco, and Wilson was determined to spare them from death or service in the infamous Saharan Prisoner of War camps operated by the Mexican state.
[you'll have to forgive me for slipping into historical fiction for a second here]
Wilson was summoned to Mexico City by President Villa, the man who had succeeded Diaz as leader of the nation. Wilson stepped into the conference room and saw an old map of North America on the table in front of him;
"There must be some mistake," he began "this map shows Mexico's 1836 borders". Villa extinguished his cigar in the ashtray in front of him, "No, Señor, it shows Mexico's 1922 borders." Wilson felt his heart sink- how could he accept such a demand? He opened his mouth to protest when three other figures stepped up to the table. He recognised one as the Frenchman Clemenceau. The second seemed unfamiliar, but had a Mediterranean air about him. The third was easily identified. David Lloyd George indicated Villa with a nod, and Wilson saw the Mexican leader place a peice of paper on the table, facing him. Shaking, Wilson sat down. Remembering his election promise, he reached for the pen which lay next to him...
Four of "The Big Five", after the signing of the treaty of Tenochtitlan.
The End.
(I decided not to go for a seperate epilogue as it would have been a bit short)
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Sovereign said:All Praise Lugg!
er...
I mean Viva Mejico! Well played sir.
Thanks!
Though Mejico would be the Spanish, not Mexican, spelling....
Though I enjoyed this one, I'm not sure if I'll do another AAR. Currently I'm looking into starting to play MP, as well as having two regular single-player games on the go. If I do make another AAR, it won't be for some time, certainly.
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Bravo, nice ending - always good to see a healthy border between the USA and Mexico..
Heretic
Heretic