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Good luck, Hungary!

I remember playing Hungary in VIP 0.3. It was very difficult to get Austria to accept Hungarian independence; I believe I went so badly into debt that it was 1855 by the time I paid it off. :rofl:

I seem to recall that the military situation wasn't actually all that bad (Austria's army in 1848 is usually not enormous). It was the fragile Hungarian economy that made things so difficult.

Long-term, if you win the War of indepdence, you'll have one great economic advantage: a diverse population, and one great weakness: poor natural resources. Get industrial raw materials, and Hungary can be a powerhouse!

I really like your historical pictures; you make Hungary come alive. I'd hate for you to lose!
 
Chapter Three - A threat from the North

Talpra magyar!
Hí a haza!
Itt az idő
Most, vagy soha!
Rabok legyünk vagy szabadok ?
Ez a kérdés, válasszatok!

Petőfi Sándor


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After the battle of Schwechat, the Austrians got themselves running with high morale. Jellasic Croatian Ban, the Schwechatian victor with German troops under his command, decided to chase the retreating Hungarian army, destroy them and put an end to the revolution. The Hungarian Defence Committee ordered further mobilisation, encouraging peasants to set up militias.

But Jellasic had his forces badly overestimated. As he set foot past the Leithe river, his army has been routed by the Hungarian auxiliary forces expecting his advance. Another army was on their way into the region, though.

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During the battle word reached us, that the Southern Army liberated the city of Zagreb. This must have been grave news for Jellasic, the Croatian ban.

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Ban Jellasic


After the victory, troops from the battfield of Sopron were dispatched immediately to fend off the new offensive.

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Coincidently, the peasants of Pannonia took up arms to drive off the enemy from their land:

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Hungarian armed peasants escorting Croatian captives


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The militia split into two. One group rallied to help the regular armies on the western border, while another one turned South, to attack the Croats on their own land, and help the Southern army continue its offensive down to the Adriatic Sea.

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The Croat population took a desperate attempt to recapture their capital city, but they were dealt with. The army reached the Adria, and soon the main army emerged victorious at the western border too. A young, unknown general credited himself the victory at Zalaegerszeg: Artúr Görgei, who has been sent to replace general Móga as he was unable to capture Vienna due to his long delay before the crossing of the Leithe river.

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General Görgei.
An ascending new star.



What's more, the Defence committe finished the training of the National Guard too. Two new elite divisions, the Szent László Hadosztály and the Székely (typo in game) Gyalog Hadosztály were ready for deployment. They were dispatched to finally put down the Serb peasants, who have caused much trouble in the south.

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The Big Bear awakens


Thus came the end of the year of 1848. The summary was quite good for the newly born nation. Although they could not take Vienna, they consolidated their position on their own land, securing the country borders on each side. National celebrations were held everywhere in favour of the first year of independence.

But in the meantime, a serious new threat was just about to emerge past our borders. Austrians, dissatisfied with their military failures in a row, decided to issue major changes to achieve victory at all costs. Jellasic was dismissed as Commander-in-Chief, to be replaced with Alfred Windischgraetz.

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But they made a much more fearsome decision too: putting aside all their pride and animousity, they humbly begged to Russia for help. The Tzar announced his entry to the war in November. As our Venetian friends did put it, the Tzar donated a dental prothesis to Austria, to help the Emperor replace his lost teeth:


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And we did not have to wait for too long.
As we advance into the new year, Windischgraetz launches a major offensive all along the Croatian border:



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Our new year prayers go with our soldiers fighting for our liberty on the battlefields.
 
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LM+ said:
Good luck, Hungary!

I remember playing Hungary in VIP 0.3. It was very difficult to get Austria to accept Hungarian independence; I believe I went so badly into debt that it was 1855 by the time I paid it off. :rofl:

I seem to recall that the military situation wasn't actually all that bad (Austria's army in 1848 is usually not enormous). It was the fragile Hungarian economy that made things so difficult.

Long-term, if you win the War of indepdence, you'll have one great economic advantage: a diverse population, and one great weakness: poor natural resources. Get industrial raw materials, and Hungary can be a powerhouse!

I really like your historical pictures; you make Hungary come alive. I'd hate for you to lose!

Thank you. Well in 0.3 I wasn't able to go far, since I usually started with the Austrians parking on my territory in great numbers, while I had 3 troops in the capital and another two usually somewhere in Italy or Bohemia which were annihilated before I could even bring them home. Once I was able to set up a significant army and control most of the country because of the AI's stupidity, because they just travelled through my land instead of occupying it, but I was annexed nevertheless because I could not recapture the rest of my provinces by 1849. This new method in 0.4 of giving some time to build up plus the mobilisation event are just great and historically correct too, since by the start the Habsburgs really folded in to our demands and turned against us only when their position strenghtened; I tryed to prevent this by striking first in this game. As you see, in the start of the scenario their own forces were quite sparce too and they could only keep Vienna by the help of Prussian forces, but by now they got their own mobilisation events and strenghtened too.

I'm glad that you appreciate the pictures also, my intention was indeed to grab the feeling of the Independence fight since this is possibly the most interesting war Hungary will have in this timeline (though who knows..). My motto in this case is the same that of the Ballantines drink: if the film of your life flashes before your eyes, make sure it's worth watching :)

Thanks for the good wishes, Semi Lobster, too. Gergő, you are welcome. And you all enjoy the new update :)
 
If it is death, would you be content with just destroying the Austrians?;)
 
cookie monster said:
This is great because unlike most AAR's this one could go either way.

Death or glory!!

JoshWeber said:
If it is death, would you be content with just destroying the Austrians?;)

Yes :D But if it turns out death, haven't you guys thought of that I can just hack the save file to be able to change to Austria and transform it to an Austria-Hungary AAR like it happened IRL ? ;)

Anyhow, I now have the game stuff indeed...ready for the next update. Probably I will be able to put it together today. We will see if that will answer any of these questions.
 
Scythian said:
Yes :D But if it turns out death, haven't you guys thought of that I can just hack the save file to be able to change to Austria and transform it to an Austria-Hungary AAR like it happened IRL ? ;)

Anyhow, I now have the game stuff indeed...ready for the next update. Probably I will be able to put it together today. We will see if that will answer any of these questions.
No need to do that just change your name on the multiplayer screen and then you can load up as any country you want.
 
Chapter Four - Liberty, Equality, Fraternity!..Or ?!

Ameddig élünk,
Magyarajkú népek
Megtörni lelkünk nem lehet soha.
Szülessünk bárhol,
Földünk bármely pontján
Legyen a sorsunk
Jó vagy mostoha.

Székely himnusz


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The news about the Austrian offensive fortunately turned out to be more serious than they really was. Only about half of the Habsburg forces crossed the Croatian border. They still vastly outnumbered the Hungarian troops. The newest divisions of the elite Nation Guard has been immediately sent to help our sparce forces on the seashore, under the command of General Görgei, the victor at Zalaegerszeg.


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They successfully arrived in time to help. The other Austrian army changed their mind, and turned North in hope they find an undefended passage. By the seashore though, soon after an extremely long and bloody battle ensued between Hungarian and Austrian forces. Both sides fought desperately, with all their strenght:


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In the meantime, the Austrians made the final push to complete their reforms: the governing secret Camarilla made the mentally handicapped Ferdinand resign as Emperor. Franz Josef, a skilled ruler emerged to the Austrian throne:


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This latest political change did not happen without consequences. Franz Josef, the autocrat that he was and with the Russians behind his back, was so sure about their victory that in Bohemia, in the city of Olmütz, issued a so-called constitution, which revealed the Austrians true plans quite straightforwardly.

This was the final touch for the nevertheless very stretched Hungarian political athmosphere too. Kossuth decided that it is time to finally burn all the remaining bridges behind the House of Habsburg-Lothringen and Hungary, to cut off every possibility of the Emperor persuading the undecided to return to the Imperial flag. The status of Hungary was changed, there's no way back. It's them or us.


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The Declaration of Independence did not change the state form, though. Kossuth could not fulfill his plan to dissolve the Parliament and set up a liberal constitutional assembly leaning to the left. Thus Hungary became a Kingdom without a king and Kossuth received the title of Regent as head of state, instead of President. While he was still excessively popular among the people, as politician became more and more isolated, since his office raised him above the parties.


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Long live Lajos Kossuth, Regent of Hungary!


This also brought some changes in the course of the revolution. Until now, the events were dominated by the radical-liberal leftist, plebian masses. From now on, the conservative wing begun to strenghten slightly, but noticably. As a first sign of this change of balance, Count Andrássy, a conservative aristocrat was appointed as Chief Ambassador of the Foreign Affairs.


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Gyula Andrássy


And he indeed did his job well. He was able to find a common tone with the Prussian King and escalated well the very recently growing Austro-Prussian tensions over the leadership of Germany. It did not took much to convince the king that an independent Hungary can help well his cause, especially now, that due to the personality of Andrássy they did not view the new nation as "rabble". Peace concluded with Prussia.


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Just some months after these exciting news, Hungary could credit another success. General Görgei, after grave sacrifices on the Adriatic front, finally was able to carve victory. He was triumphed all over the country and his popularity risen to unexpected heights. Kossuth appointed Görgei Commander-in-Chief of all the Hungarian armed forces.


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As in the meantime the Austro-Prussian rivalry reached another cornerstone with the creating of the North- and South German Federations, our Venetian allies breathed their last. With besieged from all sides, and Hungary unable to link with them, they soon gave in. Death did our alliance part, no other. Austrian general Haynau, the hyene of Brescia started with his executions. Commemorations were held in the country, and the dark possibility of defeat touched the peoples souls. We are not invincible neither.

In the East, the armies held ground firmly. Lead by the excellent Polish general Bem, Hungary repelled every incursion in the mountain passes of Transylvania. Russians faced transportation difficulties, so their armies could reach our borders only in small numbers anyway. The smoke of the Russian threat seemed larger so far than it's flames.


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Josef Bem


As addition, finished with the Prussian mission, Andrássy was dispatched to St. Petersburg too. After heavy talks, the Russians, facing they are unable to break through our fortifications, grimly accepted our existence. The nation takes a big breath. Future seems bright again.


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The following armistice with the small German nation which stood out of the North German fed, was just a formality, really:


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Austria, deprived of her allies, however, refused all our negotiation attempts. Franz Josef, even alone commanding over very strong armies, could not digest that a bunch of bloody revolutionaries tear his empire apart. A year passed with mostly trench warfare and scarce incursions. In the middle of the war however, our culture catched on to the lead of Europe, with our heroic fight inspiring many romanticist artists.

Then, finally, it was no further. The Austrian finances were on the edge, at the doorstep of future's threatening armed conflicts in the rivalry of the German states. On a bright, sunny day an envoy arrived to our capital:


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Oh, greatest day of all! Let you be remembered forever till we exist! After so much struggle, we finally won our independence! The peoples roamed the street all the day. After all the sorrows of the past, this day was truly worth living!


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Of course, we made sure in the treaty that we get all the territories rightfully belonging to us. Croatia is fully liberated from Austrian forces. As we march on, the free people of Austria rise up once again and sweep away Franz Josef and his absolutism:


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REJOICE!





The Constitutional Crisis.


Things were far to be finished with this, though. As Hungary defeats her grave enemy, the question of state form and the constitution suddenly re-emerges. Kossuth, thinking it's the ideal time to finish the great work, launches a campaign to settle down for a republic. In the Parliament, the government unanimously passes the liberal constitution. A broad autonomy plan for the minorities, especially for Croatia is also underway, since with the abolition of the Monarchy, the centuries-old personal union between Croatia and Hungary became obsolate too. The government is in a hard work laying down the foundation of modern Hungary.

....

But there were others who thought differently. Very differently, to say at the least. The conservative nobility, which strenghtened in the second half of the revolution, was alarmed by the thought of losing all, even their social-life privileges in a democratic republic, and also were worried about the status-change, maybe even the secession of Croatia. And they indeed did find the way to express this different opinion of theirs. The tool they found was General Görgei, Commander-in-Chief of the Army, who was heading towards the capital along with his forces.


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Upon arriving, he simply had the Parliament surrounded by his loyal elite forces. He demanded the resigning of the government, putting an end to Parlamentiarism and all power to be transferred to him. As he put it, the country needs a strong hand instead of a bunch of philosophers. Kossuth and the goverment turned to the people for help from the windows of the besieged Country Hall. Pest-Buda, the city where the revolution started, indeed heed the call. Armed peoples gathered everywhere.

But fortune did not let the situation evolve to civil war in the young country and eventually falling prey to their enourmous neighbours. Görgei and Kossuth, both being real politicians, after considered the situation, finally ended up at the negotiating table. With the army at his disposal, it was clearly Görgei who dictated the terms, but it was also clear Kossuth and the government would call upon every people they could to prevent the destruction of the achievements of the revolution, especially Parlamentarism.

After harsh negotiations, at the end it came to a Compromise and a Conservative Constitution. Parlamentarism upheld, but it was a serious setback from the '48 liberties, especially in the press and voting reforms. Kossuth resigned, and Görgei took up burden as Regent of Hungary.


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At the end, we became a Constitutional Monarchy.
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Thus ends a very important part of Hungarian history. The country is free, but is not a republic but a kingdom, without a king! Equality is fine, but only between peoples of the same social standing, that is! The head of state is a power-hungry ambitious military general, with very strong powers over legislation, press rights and of course, the army. And what's more, Hungary's outstanding debt is more than 50,000 pounds.. What else will fate bring on us ? Well, that already belongs to another part of Hungary's history...
 
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DARN, Hungary had a Julius Caesar pulled on it.
 
They don't work for me.
 
Hungary is finally a reality. Now head immediately for the Ottomans.:D
 
Hey,
Congratulations for the brave fight against the austrian "brother-in-laws" ;) and the russians, the "gendarmes of Europe". Long live the independent Hungarian Kingdom!! :D
When I tried the same, I was run over by the russian bear... :(

Btw, I think, IRL Görgei didn't have such a dictatorial nature and I don't think, he would have tried such a coup with his army against the legitimate government... He was the most talented hungarian general of the 19th century and his brilliant campaign against the huge russian army in June and July 1849 was taught on many war acadamies in the 19th century.


For me the images are working.
 
Gergo said:
Hey,
Congratulations for the brave fight against the austrian "brother-in-laws" ;) and the russians, the "gendarmes of Europe". Long live the independent Hungarian Kingdom!! :D
When I tried the same, I was run over by the russian bear... :(

Thanks :) Well in this game the Russkies did not put up a real challenge, with those about 50-60.000 troops they had along my border until I secured peace with them. The Austrians, OTOH were really über, not to talk about they had the minor German states behind them. God, if we would have been in war with whole Germany, especially with Prussia in real life, I think our independence wouldn't lasted a month.. :D

Btw, I think, IRL Görgei didn't have such a dictatorial nature and I don't think, he would have tried such a coup with his army against the legitimate government... He was the most talented hungarian general of the 19th century and his brilliant campaign against the huge russian army in June and July 1849 was taught on many war acadamies in the 19th century.

Well, as the painting shows too, he actually DID this coup in real life, although not under these exact circumstances, remember ? ;) In the last days of the revolution, when his army was the only one left intact and it was clear that the revolution is lost, he promised to try to achieve a surrender with acceptable terms, but he demanded all the political and military power transferred to him. In the last days, until he surrendered before the Russian forces, he had absolute power in the country and parlamentarism was totally abolished. However, I don't think neither that he would try such a coup in case the revolution would have been successful, but his personality and position is the most close to the plot I had in this alternate reality.

Cookie monster, thanks, I will try that site.

Josh..you suggest a Crusade ? :D With a grave debt and a negative daily income, with no industry save a canned food factory and no excess manpower left to reinforce our troops ?


..That's the spirit me like! :D However, we will see if Regent Görgei will think likewise.
 
Scythian said:
Well, as the painting shows too, he actually DID this coup in real life, although not under these exact circumstances, remember ? ;) In the last days of the revolution, when his army was the only one left intact and it was clear that the revolution is lost, he promised to try to achieve a surrender with acceptable terms, but he demanded all the political and military power transferred to him. In the last days, until he surrendered before the Russian forces, he had absolute power in the country and parlamentarism was totally abolished. However, I don't think neither that he would try such a coup in case the revolution would have been successful, but his personality and position is the most close to the plot I had in this alternate reality.

This debate should be continued maybe in the "History" thread, so excuse me for offing in your AAR, but I can't resist to respond you ;) :

Yes, you are right, the form of government of the last days (so from the 10th to the 13th August) of the war of independence was a dictatorship and Görgei was "de jure" a dictator, but this situation was the result of a peaceful agreement between Görgei, Kossuth and Szemere (the prime minister) as the government was completely fallen apart... So he didn't force the politicians to resign, but the Russian general, Paskievics wanted to deal only with a soldier and only on the capitulation without conditions...
 
Gergo said:
This debate should be continued maybe in the "History" thread, so excuse me for offing in your AAR, but I can't resist to respond you ;) :

Well it's nice to see my fictional decision results in so much debate :D However, I think my version is more near to the truth in this one. Even if I accept that this was a peaceful agreement in the last days of the revolution, I think you are missing that he OFFERED the right-wingers doing a military coup long before that, but they declined it, because they feared that the army and the populace would support Kossuth. It happened on 1849, May 31, in Debrecen and is listed in highschool history books, but for example you could see this page as reference too (search for the date):
http://www.bjg.hu/tanarok/tortenelem/tortMK/kovi/ev3magyar.html

Now, I think that should convince you, if not then we really should moved the further discussion to the history forum :)