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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Ebbesen View Post
    A viper of the first order, he was a man of many parts, never satisfied with virtue, never content with vice.
    What a pithy description of someone who I’m sure is both multifaceted and fascinating.


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    King Lennart the kinslayer, the enemy of god, the devil's own, or, to quote Saxo rather than king Lennart's political enemies, the most evil man ever to sit the Danish throne.
    Sounds like a group of sore losers to me making things up.

    The holy lands are nearby so why not take a walk/march in that direction? Unless I miss my guess King Lennart is rubbing his hands in anticipation at the opportunities this war presents.
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    Oho, the Conqueror is back?! Just found this while browsing through the Inkwell for good AARs I hadn't yet read. How pleasant to discover that the legendary Peter Ebbesen is not only still alive, but has enough time stolen from the mundane demands of everyday life to write a fresh AAR.

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    Excellent stuff as ever. I have to feel for Christoffer though, as nevermind Lennart's kingslaying ways, he clearly did something far worse considering he was shipped off to Scotland.

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    The third son, Christoffer, was married to countess Muriel of Cumberland, which was then in Scottish hands, marking the entry of house Estridsen in Scotland in 1103.
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    Oh wow. I've been waiting for another Peter Ebbesen AAR for... eight years now, I think?

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    Born to Breed: The Estridsen Lectures

    Lennart I Kin-slayer

    Absence makes the heart grow fonder, ugly mugs and inanity, absurd demands by the dean, a worse fate, primogeniture, a vile man understood, the Vatican archives, conflicted to the core and bad to the bone, hatred and kin-slaying, the practical benefits of holy war, a farce in three parts, an absurd plan, a clash in the desert, of empty coffers, an unexpected occurrence.


    Welcome back, class.

    I hope you enjoyed my absence, because I surely did. Alas, now I am forced to view your ugly mugs once again, my students, and listen to your occasional inane ramblings, which I am by direct order of the dean forced to consider the uplifting output of a deliberate thought process by the finest minds of your generation, and what fate could be worse than that?

    The fate of Lennart I Estridsen, the kin-slayer, that's what, which by funny coincidence brings us to the topic of today's lecture.

    As you no doubt recall, king Erik the Merry, first of his name, ruled well and justly for a considerable span of years and was, in the fullness of time, succeeded by his firstborn son, Lennart, his secondborn son, Christian, a much more qualified candidate, having to make do as a bishop in far-off Burgundy, married off to the duchess to introduce a line of Estridsens in France.



    A Conflicted King

    King Lennart and Queen Adelhaid, 1111



    Now, Lennart was king, but if we dig through the curses, slurs, and scandalous propaganda heaped upon his head by his many detractors, what sort of man was he? Recently opened Vatican archives may hold the key to understanding this conflicted man.

    King Lennart took the throne in August 1011, and he was already then a man universally despised, from the least of his nobles to his father-in-law, the german emperor himself.

    On the face of it, he made an ideal king for times of peace, being highly intelligent and well schooled as a diplomat, of personality just and kind, and of inclination diligent and gregarious. In any other man, his many sterling qualities would have guaranteed a golden reign.

    Alas, it was not to be. Apart from his undeniable qualities, king Lennart was deceitful, proud beyond reason, cynical to a fault, and wroth beyond measure; His word could not be trusted, his justice ever carried a barb, his social manners were ever subordinate to his scheming, and his kindness ever lay close to his anger.

    It is said that the only people in the world who loved him were his father, now dead, his chaste wife, and his two children, Rikissa (born 1099) and Asger (born 1095).

    Be that as it may, his scheming had brought about the death of several cousins during king Erik's twilight years, and the nobility of Denmark, consisting for the most part of his extended family, while barely accepting of such kin-slaying from the king's heir while king Erik reigned with a firm hand, were not inclined to acceptance of such from their king. Indeed, it is safe to say that the invasion of Danish Alexandria by the Caliph following king Erik's death was the best strike of luck possible in the circumstances.

    While Denmark remained engaged defending in a holy war with, surely the nobility would stay their hand, thus giving king Lennart time to strengthen his weak grip on the Danish realm!


    King Lennart's Unhappy Vassals, 1111




    A Farce in Three Acts


    Indeed, if king Lennart had stuck to prosecuting the war while slowly but surely strengthening his grip on Denmark, he might have prevailed. His perverse nature, it almost goes without saying, allowed him to do no such thing.

    As the Gesta Danorum explains, it is a farce in three acts:

    Act the first:

    His spymaster informs the king that duke Ætheldred of Norfolk, one of the last saxon dukes, is plotting to acquire the kingdom of England, and count Peder of Dorset is in on the plot.

    King Lennart despises the duke and his cousin Peder. Peder despises his cousin the king as a kinslayer and dislikes the duke as a saxon. The Duke dislikes both Peder and Lennart as Danish invaders.

    The plot is frivolous and stands no chance of success, the saxon nobility being a spent force, but nevertheless Lennart decides to act to show that he's large and in charge. He orders the imprisonment of Æthelred, hoping that the stubborn duke will resist..


    Act the second:

    But Æthelred does not resist. On October 18th, 1111, King Lennart imprisons duke Æthelred during the early morning hours, clapping him in irons and throwing him into the dungeons to mull his fate. Denied lunch, the duke suffers the second shock of the day when that very same afternoon he is dragged before the king for a second time, who offers him his freedom for a good quality of gold and no hard feelings.


    Act the third:

    Shortly after returning home, duke Æthelred sends word to Rome, and the Pope excommunicates king Lennart. Exeunt omnes.


    King Lennart: Acts I-III.



    Too Smart For His Own Good


    So, king Lennart found himself in a bit of a predicament. Not only did his vassals hate him as a kinslayer, the pope hated him and had effectively issued a hunting license on his head. What was a man to do? Especially a man who saw himself as raised above all others by virtue of both birth and skill?

    That's right, he decided that the best way to get the pope to remove the excommunication was to become publicly pious in the extreme. Nobody would have considered him a pious man in the past, but that was all water under the bridge, and he'd passed a lot of water since then... which come to think of it makes a most vivid mental image, entirely appropriate to the man who pissed on customs and public mores when he could get away with it.


    King Lennart Wants to be a Paragon of Virtue, February 1112



    Now, there was a slight problem with king Lennarts desire to become known to the world as a paragon of virtue, apart from the fact of being no such thing, which he considered only a minor hindrance to be overcome, namely that his cynical nature impeded his scheming nature.

    He could issue a declaration of repentance and sent plenty of gold to Rome in the hope that the Holy Father would grant him absolution for kin-slaying, but what if the Holy Father said no? He'd have no particular reason to say yes, and every reason to hold out for more money.

    No, as the king saw it, to gain a public reputation for piety, the easiest way was to purchase indulgences by the wagon-load, and thus step by step guide the Holy Father down the sliding slope to Lennart's salvation.


    First Cartload of Indulgencies, March 1112




    An Interlude in the Desert


    Meanwhile, the Caliph hadn't been idle. His army had gathered and invaded Alexandria. Preoccupied with matters of intrigue, the Alexandrine garrisons were all that stood in the way of the infidel horde, and they were nowhere near enough.


    Caliphal Army Gathers, June 1112



    Now, king Lennart's vassals were loathe to provide significant levies, so the king raised his own mostly loyal levies and appointed his strongest opponents to be personally in charge in the battles to come, while he held the strong Alexandrine garrison to secure the Danish foothold in Egypt.


    Danish Army Gathers, October 1112



    The Caliphal armies were defeated in detail, and king Lennart returned to Denmark, while duke Æthelred and the other commanders remained in Egypt to ward against the next wave of infidel invaders.



    What Was Meant to Be



    Returned from the war, more or less victorious, the king began clawing in taxes by fair means and foul to fund ever more indulgences. Finally, the coffers ran dry, his entire income from his two year long reign having been spent on their purchase, so he approached the German nobility to borrow money at a very reasonable 25% interest against security in his personal holdings.


    Out of Money, March 1113



    King Lennart the kin-slayer, the enemy of god, the devil's own, went to his just reward October 24, 1113. He failed to achieve his ambition of becoming a paragon amongst men.

    His son Asger being a minor, a regency was appointed under several of the prominent nobles of the realm, their primary task being to shepherd the realm through the eight years of Asger's minority, to fight the war against the caliph, and to ensure that Asger turned out a better man than his father had been.

    An thorough investigation into king Lennart's death revealed him to have died in his sleep of natural causes, early sensational reports of his body having been found stabbed, drowned, hanged, poisoned, and shot being dismissed as rumours spread by enemies of the realm.

    He was given a closed-coffin funeral to preserve the dignity of kingship, that none might spit on the corpse.


    Love Live the King! October 1113



    Now, the obvious question that any intelligent student would ask at this point would be, was this truly the most evil man to ever sit the Danish throne?. Sure, he may have been a kin-slayer, have been excommunicated, have driven the country to the brink of bankruptcy, but if we look at the facts of the matter, as narrated by yours truly, and ignore the whining of his political opponents, was he really all that bad?

    And the answer must be a resounding, “yes”, king Lennart was just about as bad as they got, at least as of the time of the writing of the Gesta Danorum. When compared with his illustrious ancestors and successors, he stands out like a sore thumb. The best thing he ever did for the realm was to die.
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    Professor, you call king Lennart evil and bad and all that stuff. But isn't academia a place of objective consideration? When I write my midterm paper, can I too use colorful wording like that, or is that a right you as a revered professor can use only?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Ebbesen View Post
    I hope you enjoyed my absence, because I surely did. Alas, now I am forced to view your ugly mugs once again, my students, and listen to your occasional inane ramblings, which I am by direct order of the dean forced to consider the uplifting output of a deliberate thought process by the finest minds of your generation, and what fate could be worse than that?
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    Going for Paragon of Virtue suggests he was trying to atone and start anew. Can't say i find him to be especially evil. If he's the worst of Danish Kings, they're a bunch of noble rulers. Lennart didn'y lose any land despite being a kin-slayer, excommunicate and despised by his nobles. Doesn't even kill a defeated rebel noble. No, Lennart doesn't deserve his moniker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Ebbesen View Post
    Welcome back, class.

    I hope you enjoyed my absence, because I surely did. Alas, now I am forced to view your ugly mugs once again, my students, and listen to your occasional inane ramblings, which I am by direct order of the dean forced to consider the uplifting output of a deliberate thought process by the finest minds of your generation, and what fate could be worse than that?

    The fate of Lennart I Estridsen, the kin-slayer, that's what, which by funny coincidence brings us to the topic of today's lecture.
    Professor, I applaud your rhetorical prowess in moving deftly from a warm welcome to the class to the topic at hand, but I am a bit at a loss as to how Lennart the Kin-slayer's fate was so bad. As you yourself state, a thorough investigation revealed he died in his sleep, presumably peacefully. True, whether or not he was reconciled with his God before this happened might have a great deal to say about his fate after his passing, but that is a question more fitting for Theology 101, rather than a series of scientific historic lectures.

    Another question that I have is whether there is any evidence that the debt incurred by Lennart carried over to his son: was it considered a personal debt, or one to the Kingdom of Denmark?
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    Nikolai - Academia is indeed a place of objective consideration, and a thorough study of history rather than this lightweight course will show in full just how vile Lennart was. Lacking such study, we have the words of the holy father himself excommunicating king Lennart. So, yes, feel free to write that king Lennart was an evil man. As for moral relativism, it is all well and good as an intellectual exercise, but lacking intellect, it will bring you nothing but pain. Do you know for sure that none of your classmates are agents of the inquisition?

    principiis - By weird coincidence, so do I!

    Murmurandus - Nobody named your name. Still, if you consider yourself to be the logical suspect when discussing inane students, who am I to disagree?

    Mico94 - Good lord! You ask a sensible question. The age of miracles is not yet passed. Now, if Asger were to have accidentally stabbed himself to death with 7 stabs during his minority, which I hasten to add he did not do, then things would have become complicated. Asger's direct personal heir was his sister, Rikissa, who in your hypothetical situation might have run into problems with the primogeniture laws of England, but his uncle Erik - now toiling away as a Bishop in Burgundy - had two children, Erik and Håkon, who were second and third in line of direct succession. Now, the Danish electoral law was elective, so exactly how things would have played out becomes particularly interesting. That, however, is beyond the scope of this lecture series. Next lecture, you'll be told just what happened to Asger and what his regency did.

    Chief Ragusa - Are you second-guessing the holy father himself? You make light of excommunication? Perhaps you and Nikolai should form a student's club for these subversive ideas.

    Stuyvesant - Listen to me carefully, I shall say this only once: You bloody nincompoop, Lennart was bloody well killed for the good of the realm and it was covered up. And as an excommunicate, he was surely damned for all time. Recall Pope Simon I's closing words at Vatican II. "No mercy for the wicked", that's what Simon said! You are supposed to read between the lines on things like this! ...Of course, today's youth being what it is, I should be happy that you are capable of reading at all, even if not between the lines. Err, you are capable of reading, right? RIGHT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Ebbesen View Post
    Err, you are capable of reading, right? RIGHT?
    Whoever said anything about reading?!? I thought this was a series of lectures!

    <Ahem>

    Anyway, I am perfectly capable of reading. Like, that last word totally is... R-I-H-G-T. See? nothing to it. Phew.
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