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All in all, I found it very fitting to read while listening to the Who's "Won't get fooled again" :cool:

Indeed.
 
Looks like the central European situation just got a bit more complicated :cool:.What's the situation between Hungry and Slovakia?
 
Looks like the central European situation just got a bit more complicated :cool:.What's the situation between Hungry and Slovakia?

Tense, of course. There are territorial issues pending between the two nations, and it's most tempting for Budapest to make a land grab while Slovakia is still coalescing.
 
Tense, of course. There are territorial issues pending between the two nations, and it's most tempting for Budapest to make a land grab while Slovakia is still coalescing.

The question is how would Berlin react to a major landgrab that is bigger than what they got in OTL? I could see the Germans 'advise' the slovaks to hand these territories over, but anything bigger than that...
 
The question is how would Berlin react to a major landgrab that is bigger than what they got in OTL? I could see the Germans 'advise' the slovaks to hand these territories over, but anything bigger than that...

The time for a "Vienna Arbitration" (except that it will have to take place somewhere else) is indeed coming. In this ATL, Hungary is a closer Axis ally, and enjoys its position as Hitler's first and most important European ally.
 
The time for a "Vienna Arbitration" (except that it will have to take place somewhere else) is indeed coming. In this ATL, Hungary is a closer Axis ally, and enjoys its position as Hitler's first and most important European ally.

I forgot Italy, or rather the lack thereof. Too many AAR plotlines in my head.:(
 
I forgot Italy, or rather the lack thereof. Too many AAR plotlines in my head.:(

Yes, CF Italy is in fact in an alliance with France, Spain, Austria and the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. HOw easy an alliance this will be remains to be seen, as there are already various points of friction with either France or the UK-led Allies.
 
Yes, CF Italy is in fact in an alliance with France, Spain, Austria and the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. HOw easy an alliance this will be remains to be seen, as there are already various points of friction with either France or the UK-led Allies.

No Alliance can take on Sweden and America, they're the best fighters in the world, they'll lick both the British and the French I bet!*

The set up is extremely exiting I must say. I am always anxiously awaiting updates so I can follow how the situations of the world are developing. And the AAR isn't only exciting, it's well written too!

*(I doubt however that many will understand that joke, I myself haven't been able to find the quote where I got parts of it from, if anyone knows, please tell me)
 
Sweet update. Just like poor old Banacek, you had me looking in completely the wrong direction until the big reveal at the end.
 
The time for a "Vienna Arbitration" (except that it will have to take place somewhere else) is indeed coming. In this ATL, Hungary is a closer Axis ally, and enjoys its position as Hitler's first and most important European ally.
Perhaps Hungry could be bought off with a helpful portion of Romania and Yugoslavia, and therefore leave Slovakia as a complete tool of Germany (the only thing protecting it from big bad Hungry). And of course, perhaps a deal regarding Yugoslavia can be worked out with Italy (since Italian and French interests diverge here). Then there's also Bulgaria...
 
A quick question AF - Is the French Presidential election vote still open? Like trekaddict I have been known to sometimes confuse AAR plotlines, but as I recall the election was open until you posted the Presidential election update, which I don't believe has happened.
 
A quick question AF - Is the French Presidential election vote still open? Like trekaddict I have been known to sometimes confuse AAR plotlines, but as I recall the election was open until you posted the Presidential election update, which I don't believe has happened.

The race is still on, very much so, and votes will continue to be taken into account till the AAR reaches the last day of April, 1939 (I'm more or less sticking to the current-day electoral calendar which has the President elected in the first days of May).

So far the Parti Social Français (the political wing of the Croix de Feu and their Alliance Démocratique allies) leads on, with the Parti Socialiste - Radical (the Blum-Daladier alliance) struggling to keep up. The clandestine Parti Communiste Français is credited with a little under 10% of the vote (which will result in dissent as Maurice Thorez, their candidate, is in Moscow), and the poor Action Française, with which I share only my initials, despite being led by France's most glorious officer, mobilizes a palsy 7%.
 
Perhaps Hungry could be bought off with a helpful portion of Romania and Yugoslavia, and therefore leave Slovakia as a complete tool of Germany (the only thing protecting it from big bad Hungry). And of course, perhaps a deal regarding Yugoslavia can be worked out with Italy (since Italian and French interests diverge here). Then there's also Bulgaria...

Indeed Hungarian appetites have to be diverted to more acceptable targets, though Rumania is a very sensitive area. Its oil, after all, is of paramount importance to the Third Reich's economy (and war machine).

Bulgaria is more of a target than the government in Sofia might realize, with Germany vying for influence in Turkey, and a Greek government that might drift away from the democracies now that Italy (and its still-intact ambitions in the Med) has become one of them.

Of course, Southern Poland also stands as a juicy target to satisfy Budapest.
 
Indeed Hungarian appetites have to be diverted to more acceptable targets, though Rumania is a very sensitive area. Its oil, after all, is of paramount importance to the Third Reich's economy (and war machine).

Bulgaria is more of a target than the government in Sofia might realize, with Germany vying for influence in Turkey, and a Greek government that might drift away from the democracies now that Italy (and its still-intact ambitions in the Med) has become one of them.

Of course, Southern Poland also stands as a juicy target to satisfy Budapest.

In real life Hungary tried to keep a sort of balance with its cooperation with Germany by building relatively strong relatioship with Italy, Poland and Yugoslavia.

While attacking Yugoslavia was possible and gave certain profits (with sizable Magyar minority in Voivodina) despite rather high controversies it is really impossible that Hungary would turn against Poland. There was really nothing this country could want compared to the cost and high unpopularity of that move (Magyar-Polish friendship is proverbial).

see those as examples:

in Poland

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in Hungary

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Such deep relationship isn't built or ruined in a day, really.

Axis Hungary might DOW Poland, but that would be a very upopular conflict with higher and lower ranks refusing to conduct operations or implementing such plans very, very 'carefully' to 'avoid unnecessary bloodshed' , due to 'unforeseenable adverse factors', etc . ;) So very, very sloooowly.:cool:




P.S. Following the AAR for a while, spoken for the first time since I feel there is something valuable I can add now. ;)
 
Cegorach : Ah-ha, interesting indeed ! It reminds me I'll have to read more about the Hungarian-Rumanian conflict that preceded the Vienna arbitrations. Feedback is always appreciated, as is pointing out inaccuracies or outright mistakes, God knows I make enough of those !

All : I've started writing two storylines for the next updates (or couple of updates). One is about industrial activity in France and Germany, and the other deals with the ongoing Brazil-Argentine conflict, now that Argentine troops have been allowed to move through Uruguay. Hopefully this'll mean a quicker updating rate !
 
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I've now read through the update, and thus feel confident enough to claim that your quoted is nothing more than an inverted pyramid of piffle. Humility is a nice Christian quality, but there's such a thing as pushing it too far :p

The hon. reader much too kind with me humble quill-pusher.:D

As for the update, I must admit that Benes' presence caught me completely by surprise, and that I found both Varga and Banacek to be interesting characters, particularly Varga, who risks developing into a scourge far worse than those he's fighting.

If you stare into the Abyss, the Abyss will stare back into you ?

All in all, I found it very fitting to read while listening to the Who's "Won't get fooled again" :cool:

I should have had Customs Officer Banacek be an expert at taking off sunglasses... ;)
 
Wasn't it kind of unthinkable that any slavic nation would brake the whole pan-slavic solidarity thing? The whole point of Axis Slovakia was "...to drive a wedge into the wall of Pan-Slavic solidarity." - Adolf Hitler, 24 november 1940.

I've just recently finished reading Axis Slovakia: Hitler's slavic wedge 1938-1945. (Mark W. A. Axworthy) And according to the author the whole Slovakia "project" succeded and drove a wedge "into the wall of Pan-Slavic solidarity". I can recomend that book btw, it's interesting and contains a load of great pictures.
 
If you stare into the Abyss, the Abyss will stare back into you ?
Precisely, even a syphilitic nutter with a philosophy so ambiguous that it can be commandeered by the nazis can occasionally be correct.
The industrial "war" seems like an intriguing storyline.
And now, I shall PM you my latest vote! (If only I could vote this many times in a real election)
 
Wasn't it kind of unthinkable that any slavic nation would brake the whole pan-slavic solidarity thing? The whole point of Axis Slovakia was "...to drive a wedge into the wall of Pan-Slavic solidarity." - Adolf Hitler, 24 november 1940.

I've just recently finished reading Axis Slovakia: Hitler's slavic wedge 1938-1945. (Mark W. A. Axworthy) And according to the author the whole Slovakia "project" succeded and drove a wedge "into the wall of Pan-Slavic solidarity". I can recomend that book btw, it's interesting and contains a load of great pictures.

:eek:

I didn't realise there was such a thing...

Who was supposed to form this 'wall' ?

So I guess that it was Slovakia which caused conflicts between Yugoslavia and Bulgaria or inside Yugoslavia itself or perhaps the solidarity existed between Poland and the Soviet Union ? Poland and Czechoslovakia ?

Err between... anybody ? :)


I guess the author meant this rather unnatural relation between Czechoslovakia and the Soviets, but that is pretty much ... all.
 
Indeed Hungarian appetites have to be diverted to more acceptable targets, though Rumania is a very sensitive area. Its oil, after all, is of paramount importance to the Third Reich's economy (and war machine).

Bulgaria is more of a target than the government in Sofia might realize, with Germany vying for influence in Turkey, and a Greek government that might drift away from the democracies now that Italy (and its still-intact ambitions in the Med) has become one of them.

Of course, Southern Poland also stands as a juicy target to satisfy Budapest.
How would Hungry get to Poland? It doesn't seem very practical...

Anyway, what's the actual internal situation in Italy. Is it actually Democratic? Also, why don't you open up voting to the thread. It could be more fun that way...