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There is clearly some sort of mystical balance going on between the Uzbeks and the Ottomans. A conspiracy!
My in-game character is offering the Khan his services. In exchange for command of an expeditionary force to wherever the heck the Horde is going next and a few small estates here and there (with the size of "small" to be determined relatively by the total size of the new acquisitions, of course), he will raise and supply all of the forces himself using his winnings from the now-infamous "uzbek Upset." (Naturally, as is the custom in the Horde, the troops will get free access to loot and pillage the enemy's lands instead of a real salary.)
Meanwhile, I (the real version) wish the Horde luck, and that was a good show with the Ottomans.
Meanwhile, I (the real version) wish the Horde luck, and that was a good show with the Ottomans.
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It was all a pre planned maneuver by the Manchu.Originally the artillery was accompanied by infantry, but halfway the himallaya most of the infantry died of cold and hunger.But that was only to be expected.The remaining infantry ate the death, just to be able to reach the Tatar ends of the himalaya's, where with their last life strenght they pushed the artillery of a mountain slope.They did what they were ordered.The artillery thus travveling at good speed due to the downward going slopes of the mountain, were expected to piledrive the Tatars, surely along their way they piledrived lots of Pashtun and other minor races, but the Manchu's didn't count in one factor, the Tatars are always on horseback...
Thus the Tatars, seeing the speeding pieces, chased them and catched them with an enginious method of useing rope, tied with a loose knot in a loop so to be able to catch things with it.This practive would later be done a lot by what by then would be called "howitzer boys" in the 19th century, as can be seen in lots of "wild east" movies starring Clint Westwood, like "the good, the bad, and the Uzbek".
Thus the Tatars, seeing the speeding pieces, chased them and catched them with an enginious method of useing rope, tied with a loose knot in a loop so to be able to catch things with it.This practive would later be done a lot by what by then would be called "howitzer boys" in the 19th century, as can be seen in lots of "wild east" movies starring Clint Westwood, like "the good, the bad, and the Uzbek".
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Bismarck1 - I'm still hoping the Danish will get it together and do that.
Chief Ragusa - I hope that happens.
Battle bunny - It was harder than it looked. The Manchu only attacked with that one army.
J. Passepartout - They've been dealt to before they'll get it again.
Soarom - I like that proposal.
Grundius - It was quite a fun war.
The-Great-Dane - Its time to look that way I believe, but getting through Afghanistan is always nasty. Very nasty I hate those provinces.
coz1 - I think it shall be found that the colour thieves are not golden at all but yellow-bellied.
SirruShan - If the manchu and uzbek want to fight then it shall be a stupid war no doubt.
Nobegow - I'll wait to see what the Danish achieve first.
stnylan - Just my luck
Specialist290 - Thats quite a few bonuses you want for yourself, what happened to doing things for the glory of the Horde?
TheFlemishDuck - I do think that your description of events may well be correct, it certainly explains a lot.
Chief Ragusa - I hope that happens.
Battle bunny - It was harder than it looked. The Manchu only attacked with that one army.
J. Passepartout - They've been dealt to before they'll get it again.
Soarom - I like that proposal.
Grundius - It was quite a fun war.
The-Great-Dane - Its time to look that way I believe, but getting through Afghanistan is always nasty. Very nasty I hate those provinces.
coz1 - I think it shall be found that the colour thieves are not golden at all but yellow-bellied.
SirruShan - If the manchu and uzbek want to fight then it shall be a stupid war no doubt.
Nobegow - I'll wait to see what the Danish achieve first.
stnylan - Just my luck
Specialist290 - Thats quite a few bonuses you want for yourself, what happened to doing things for the glory of the Horde?
TheFlemishDuck - I do think that your description of events may well be correct, it certainly explains a lot.
He is doing it for the glory of the Horde. The rest are just subsidiary bonuses And besides, what Mongol doesn't want a field command?
Although he does say that, if pressed, he's willing to cut down to just one estate.
Meanwhile, it appears as though you have a whole slew of options available to you as to expansion. Whatever choice you make, don't forget your trademark sense of humor in explaining it away
And besides, what Mongol doesn't want a field command?Although he does say that, if pressed, he's willing to cut down to just one estate.
Meanwhile, it appears as though you have a whole slew of options available to you as to expansion. Whatever choice you make, don't forget your trademark sense of humor in explaining it away
The Afghani lands are indeed a bitch.
But hey, if it opens the road to india, it's well worth spending a few 100.000 men.
Just use lots of artillery, so the provinces will fall fast.
-TGD
But hey, if it opens the road to india, it's well worth spending a few 100.000 men.
Just use lots of artillery, so the provinces will fall fast.
-TGD
SunZyl - As do I, more riches and more fun.
Specialist290 - Field command is the highest someone can go in life isn't it?
The-Great-Dane - Masses of men certainly are an option. It isn't called the Horde for nothing.
Specialist290 - Field command is the highest someone can go in life isn't it?
The-Great-Dane - Masses of men certainly are an option. It isn't called the Horde for nothing.
Murtada was always a strong believer in the power of planning ahead. In fact he is actually credited by many with the quote "Failing to plan is planning to fail". This and other such 'pearls of wisdom' guided him to success in many areas. A fact that has made Murtada one of the key areas studied by motivational speakers today.
Murtada is acknowledged by many top motivational speakers
One area of success that stood out was his elevation of the Golden Horde to the very top of the worlds list of grain producers. Just one more that could be added to the now sizable number of products that the Horde dominated.
Should it be the Grain Horde?
But Murtada's real interest lay in planning expansion. Four regions neighboured the Horde and were therefore legitimate targets for the army. Europe, the Ottoman 'Empire', Mogolia and India. Murtada began sizing them up. Europe for now was subjugated as long as the Polish maintained allegiance. The Ottoman 'Empire' was mostly broken but like a cornered animal or uzbek definitely should not be taken for granted. Given this possible risk and the limited rewards to be had this route held little attraction. Mongolia remained a tricky situation. Relations with the Mongols were friendly and until that changed they were likely to remain independent of the Horde.
Then there was the sixth continent, India. India had one big attraction and one big drawback. The attraction was clear, riches beyond the dreams of even Genghis lay within it. If the Horde could acquire them then its Khan would be able to live in the lap of luxury all the while mobilising great armies to strike fear into the peoples of the world.
The drawback was that while the population was huge their religion banned the eating of beef. This meant that Berker Khan would have a hard time capitalising on the large new market and therefore be reluctant to fund military activities.
Nonetheless Murtada decided that this would be the Horde's next action. A meeting of the Horde's top advisors and military strategists was called. After several months of gruelling debate the plan was finalised. All agreed it to be a fine piece of work so copies were distributed to the Horde's commander's in the field.
The plan as worked out the the Horde's elite military minds
Realising that getting public opinion on his side would be a boost Murtada set about a propaganda campaign against the Indians. It focussed around painting the Indian people as sub-human and their land a sub-continent (a legacy that remains to this day too as India is yet to regain the continent status it enjoyed until Murtada's reign).
Soon almost everything was geared for the war. The last piece needed was a legitimate excuse in the eyes of the world......
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Duke of Wellington said:One area of success that stood out was his elevation of the Golden Horde to the very top of the worlds list of grain producers. Just one more that could be added to the now sizable number of products that the Horde dominated.
Should it be the Grain Horde?
Grained salted wool?
To India! No excuse is needed to take that sub-continent!
Loved the motivational pamplet and the rationale behind India's sub-continent status.
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Pork! The Indians can eat pork instead of beef! I'm sure it'd be an attraction in the other monopolized areas. . .
And what an engenious plan!
-TGD
And what an engenious plan!
-TGD
The way to India is blocked by that untidy collection of colour formerly known as Fars and the Moghul Empire.
Berker Khan use only the finest ingredients, including freshly baked buns using Horde Grain. With such a worldwide hit on their hands , it is not surprising that the Horde is number 1 for grain.
Good luck in the search for a CB. Given their volatile politics, some errant prince seeking re-instatement is sure to come riding by.
Berker Khan use only the finest ingredients, including freshly baked buns using Horde Grain. With such a worldwide hit on their hands , it is not surprising that the Horde is number 1 for grain.
Good luck in the search for a CB. Given their volatile politics, some errant prince seeking re-instatement is sure to come riding by.
A big enough target - even the Horde's somewhat errant navigators should be able to find it
How much grain would the Golden Horde hoard if the Golden Horde could hoard grain?
Ah, India. I assume you'll be putting priority on crushing the upstart name-stealing "Mughals"? (and poor spellers at that, too)
Ah, India. I assume you'll be putting priority on crushing the upstart name-stealing "Mughals"? (and poor spellers at that, too)
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Is that a real quote or did you make it up? It was really great nevertheless.