I'm playing as Vandad in the Karen start and i married my sister. We're both persians and zoroastrians, but i am called Satrap Vandad and she is called Emira Farah.
Is this a bug?
Is this a bug?
I don't think there's a duchess consort version of the Persian Duke title. So it just did the Muslim one?
Yeah, you're right. It's the Arabic Culture group.The Arabian, not the muslim one. It's culture related, not religion AFAIK.
Except this is a consort not a wife.Emir/Amir comes from the Persian 'Mir.' Ideally, she'd be styled as simply 'mir' rather than 'mira,' as Persian has no grammatical gender.
I don't think we actually have many sources on the wives of Satraps (and how they were styled,) but I'm sure it's out there. Bambishn referred to a wife of a Shah, but...
Emir is Arabic for Prince, though. With the feminine being "Emira". Which is where the game is getting the title, I'm guessing.Emir/Amir comes from the Persian 'Mir.' Ideally, she'd be styled as simply 'mir' rather than 'mira,' as Persian has no grammatical gender.
I don't think we actually have many sources on the wives of Satraps (and how they were styled,) but I'm sure it's out there. Bambishn referred to a wife of a Shah, but...
Emir is Arabic for Prince, though. With the feminine being "Emira". Which is where the game is getting the title, I'm guessing.
I'm looking at Wikipedia and my own knowledge (fluent in Arabic), I think you have it backwards?Not etymologically, and definitely not in CK2's period.
I'm looking at Wikipedia and my own knowledge (fluent in Arabic), I think you have it backwards?
Straight from Wikipedia: Mir (مير) (which is derived from the Arabic title Emir 'general, prince') is a rare ruler's title in princely states and an aristocratic title generally used to refer to a person who is a descendant of a commander in medieval Muslim tradition.
Even that is the feminine form of Sheikh in Arabic.I think I did have it backwards, sorry.
In any case, I'm genuinely curious if there was a dedicated title for the wife of a Satrap. Apparently, female marzobans are called Shaykah, as well, but I can guarantee that there's no title for 'female consort of a marzoban.'
Even that is the feminine form of Sheikh in Arabic.