I get the feeling that they are way too weak in game. They always get bulldozed by the ERE even though historically, they almost pushed the ERE out of Europe and that it took several centuries for the ERE to destroy them.
I did a similar thread shortly after the CM release and yes, they're definitively too weak, especially in the new scenario where Bulgaria starts with a few vassals hating the Khan's guts and every single one of them more powerful than him. This leads to Bulgaria being annihilated within decades because of constant civil war and Byzantium holy-warring them into oblivion.I get the feeling that they are way too weak in game. They always get bulldozed by the ERE even though historically, they almost pushed the ERE out of Europe and that it took several centuries for the ERE to destroy them.
On the other hand,AI ERE is too weak to resist the Abbasid blob.Opposite. ERE is ludicrously strong. Greece has too many counties and therefore too many troops. The lack of a need to hold forces back in case of muslim raids (or anything on any other front) is by the by.
Do you play a different game than me?First game I played (zunist) Krum invaded Greece then invaded Anatolia. Owned all of Avaria too.
Same thought I had. Bulgaria actually being successful in CM? Never happened in my games.Do you play a different game than me?
Do you play a different game than me?
Same thought I had. Bulgaria actually being successful in CM? Never happened in my games.
Bulgaria often doesn't survive long enough for Krum to inherit anything.How often does Krum inherit in your games? If some less gifted prince becomes Khan, that might be it?
There's assuming Telerig even dies childless.Bulgaria often doesn't survive long enough for Krum to inherit anything.
How often does Krum inherit in your games? If some less gifted prince becomes Khan, that might be it?
I had one game (of three I have so far played with CM) where Krum not only inherited, but also did something that Keinwyn reported, i.e. conquered Avaria. The double Bulgaria-Pannonia then resisted the single attempt of the ERE to conquer Karvuna - though was crucially helped by a civil war among the Romans. Krum's heirs split the realm, and the Pannonian part was taken back by Avars (though curiously it didn't go back to being called Avaria). So it seems it can happen, but I would definitely like to see Bulgarians strengthened a bit. Though not so much as to see them stomp Avars to the ground every time.