Two Small Map Change Suggestions for Byzantium

[Danon2]

The Byzantine map change has not been confirmed in recently discovered pre-1.12 streams by streamers,.....

We'll have to wait until after the official release.

 

[Prince Maslama ibn Umayya]

The history of Edessa during this period is a bit murky, but we know that it wasn't lost until at least the 1080s, and was part of the realm of Philaretos Brachamios when he ruled his autonomous Duchy from Antioch, so we know that the Seljuks didn't yet have control of the city.

Thats not correct at all. Edessa was ruled by the Marwanids since 1026 up until 1085 when they were exiled by Sultan Malik Shah. Marwanids

However, the Marwanids did side with the Byzantines against the Turks during their great migration but that doesn’t amount to full de facto control. The Kurds originally took the city from the Byzantines, a year after Basil’s death.

 

[Byzantium2000]

Thats not correct at all. Edessa was ruled by the Marwanids since 1026 up until 1085 when they were exiled by Sultan Malik Shah. Marwanids

However, the Marwanids did side with the Byzantines against the Turks during their great migration but that doesn’t amount to full de facto control. The Kurds originally took the city from the Byzantines, a year after Basil’s death.

That Wikipedia page you linked literally says the Byzantines took control of the city in 1033.

The Byzantines never owned the city in centuries before the Byzantine General George Maniakes had the city surrendered to him in a secret deal by the Turkish Governor Sulayman in 1031.

We also literally have the Byzantine governors seal of Edessa for 1066 let alone the fact Byzantine and Muslim sources record its control by them at this time.

N. ZORZI, Edessa and its fortifications in Byzantine times (6th-11th centuries)

N. ZORZI, Edessa and its fortifications in Byzantine times (6th-11th centuries)

www.academia.edu

Infact historians know every Byzantine governor that controlled the city until its capture by the Seljuks in 1087.

 

[UMACI]

That Wikipedia page you linked literally says the Byzantines took control of the city in 1033.

The Byzantines never owned the city in centuries before the Byzantine General George Maniakes had the city surrendered to him in a secret deal by the Turkish Governor Sulayman in 1031.

We also literally have the Byzantine governors seal of Edessa for 1066 let alone the fact Byzantine and Muslim sources record its control by them at this time.

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N. ZORZI, Edessa and its fortifications in Byzantine times (6th-11th centuries)

N. ZORZI, Edessa and its fortifications in Byzantine times (6th-11th centuries)

www.academia.edu

Infact historians know every Byzantine governor that controlled the city until its capture by the Seljuks in 1087.

Got to love DOAKS but PBW offers even more! Well not much in his case but in general.

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Also poor history in CK3 doesn't end here, going from his example he doesn't even exist in the game. Not only that, but two people from the Pegonites family that do exist are from different dynasties, one Pegonites and the other has a dynasty named Pegonitissa(feminine of Pegonites).

 

[Byzantium2000]

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