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[Maciej-Kamil]

Maybe the space program in the mod could work in that way:

- it would comprise whole decision chain.
- each decision would be a separate phase of space exploration (first satelite, sending dog into space, sending first human and etc).
- player would be able to chose how much materials would be invested into a given phase. The more he invests, the bigger chance of success exists.
- if a given phase of exploration is succesfull, then player gets a dissent reduction and a scientific bonus.
- if not, then player gets some dissent, but after some time decision allowing to start a given phase again could appear.
- This chain should be accesible to the Reich, Soviets and the USA.

 

[Ericafaq]

Maybe the space program in the mod could work in that way:

- it would comprise whole decision chain.
- each decision would be a separate phase of space exploration (first satelite, sending dog into space, sending first human and etc).
- player would be able to chose how much materials would be invested into a given phase. The more he invests, the bigger chance of success exists.
- if a given phase of exploration is succesfull, then player gets a dissent reduction and a scientific bonus.
- if not, then player gets some dissent, but after some time decision allowing to start a given phase again could appear.
- This chain should be accesible to the Reich, Soviets and the USA.

That's right, that's exactly what is planned.

 

[Maciej-Kamil]

Will there be any events about the Chernobyl? Would the Prypiat be build in this timeline at all?

 

[Ericafaq]

Will there be any events about the Chernobyl? Would the Prypiat be build in this timeline at all?

Wlell, Pripyat is too slavic name for the German city. The city was located near the border of today Belarus, and this territory was reserved for colonization ( Himmler's plan Hegewald ).
So the colonists will definitely build new cities. Idea of German nuclear station sounds really good, i'm will think about it

 

[Maciej-Kamil]

Wlell, Pripyat is too slavic name for the German city. The city was located near the border of today Belarus, and this territory was reserved for colonization ( Himmler's plan Hegewald ).
So the colonists will definitely build new cities. Idea of German nuclear station sounds really good, i'm will think about it

This will occur only if the Hegewald plan is actually implemented (in Himmler's patch), or will it happen no matter who rules the Reich?

 

[Ericafaq]

This will occur only if the Hegewald plan is actually implemented (in Himmler's patch), or will it happen no matter who rules the Reich?

I'm sorry, I have not opened the files of this modification for more than a year, sice i'm busy with PWV. But, if i'm remember correctly SS Germany has opportunity to colonize Ukraine faster than Beck's Germany.

Historicaly, Himmler was sure that it's impossible to build new "German" vilages in Ukraine without colonists from Benelux area and Sweden. So, I believe that the city will be built only if the colonists from Benelux and Sweden agreed to move to Ukraine

 

[Maciej-Kamil]

I'm sorry, I have not opened the files of this modification for more than a year, sice i'm busy with PWV. But, if i'm remember correctly SS Germany has opportunity to colonize Ukraine faster than Beck's Germany.

Historicaly, Himmler was sure that it's impossible to build new "German" vilages in Ukraine without colonists from Benelux area and Sweden. So, I believe that the city will be built only if the colonists from Benelux and Sweden agreed to move to Ukraine

I understand, I'm just posting my ideas here and there.

Maybe we could use the Chernobyl idea, but have it occur somewhere in Soviet Syberia? It would be a shame, if such an interesing event would happen only in few games, when very specific conditions are met.

 

[Korsteeni]

Idea of German nuclear station sounds really good, i'm will think about it

I remember reading a story about a victorious Nazi Germany that had an accident similar to Chernobyl, but instead of a nuclear power plant the thing suffering an accident was a nuclear-powered train (I think it got derailed or something). Could be an interesting twist to the usual milieu.

 

[Czaristan]

Lets not let this devolve into an argument on why we lost Vietnam.

Agreed. My point is that tech teams, when represented by individual leaders, should have skills that are representative of that leader's strategic or tactical innovation. Even if you think Westmoreland was a decent battlefield commander, his tech team score should be low because he wasn't an innovator like Guderian or Tukhachevski or even Mao.

 

[stevefitz744]

If you're looking for ideas about an alternate German "Chernobyl" maybe you could have a more devastating version of one of the near-disasters that happened in Germany in real-life...like maybe this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greifswald_Nuclear_Power_Plant#Incidents

 

[Wordsarecool]

I replaced Westmoreland with General Dwight E. Beach. Also revamped teams for AST, CAN, CHI, CHC, PHI, CAL, CSA, MEX, IND, VIE, GUY (Caribbean Federation), and U03 (Socialist Vietnam). Many of these had teams that shouldn't have existed at the time, at least not at skill and specialty included (especially for China which was a backwater, and the Philippines). BAE basically completely replaced in former commonwealth, particularly Australia, since there's no way it would be a major industrial influence in the extant geopolitical setup. In case of CSA, pictures for teams existed but none were in the file.

Mexico still needs work since it had the opposite problem of tech team anachronism, most it's TTs being now extremely old or dead men.

Caribbean Federation I just fleshed out a bit more, and gave them convoys in their scenario file. At some point it would probably make more sense to move their capital to Trinidad or something, which can also be given a naval base. Also included a Guiana Space Centre tech team that can be activated if somebody decides to set up a launch facility down there via event or something. Currently never unlocks.

Hanoi TTs locked for Vietnam (US) until hypothetical event unlock upon capture of the north, since most start dates begin with a divided Vietnam. Likewise, some regular VIE TTs added to the U03 roster are disabled pending some event to unlock them once the south is taken.

Have been steadily planning out air and naval doctrines but not quite at point of implementation yet.

Deleted some few hundred unused images in the pics folder, holdover of vanilla DH or MDS.

 

[Pioniere]

I know you dont have time for this mod now. But I post this strange picture of an eagel the title was: Pjatigorsk Пятиго́рск Russland Sowjetunion ~1966 Vogel Adler Denkmal Postkarte.

Maybe you can use it for an event possibel. thanks for the help in thread the other day.

Maybe you can use my Polynesia flag some day?





us communist banned.


soviets in asia

 

[Ericafaq]

I know you dont have time for this mod now. But I post this strange picture of an eagel the title was: Pjatigorsk Пятиго́рск Russland Sowjetunion ~1966 Vogel Adler Denkmal Postkarte.
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Maybe you can use it for an event possibel. thanks for the help in thread the other day.

No problem. You can keep post your pics, since soon i'm will continue my works with Thunder

 

[Grahe]

Iam desperate now, I was looking throught the music in the files (fantastic colection of music btw) and I found one called "Dogs4" could you please tell me the real name of this soundtrack, it is stuck in my head for some time so please help me.

 

[Ericafaq]

Iam desperate now, I was looking throught the music in the files (fantastic colection of music btw) and I found one called "Dogs4" could you please tell me the real name of this soundtrack, it is stuck in my head for some time so please help me.

From Russian Game "Sea Dogs" You can find full track-list on Youtube

Track List

 

[Grahe]

From Russian Game "Sea Dogs" You can find full track-list on Youtube

Track List

Thank you very much. I now get why i always get the naval vibes when i play the game with this soundtrack on.

 

[Pioniere]

Perhapes a flag for a Italy puppet under Germany?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Social_Movement


poster



Giovanni Roberti
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Роберти,_Джованни

 

[Nesic8693]

Since new version of PWV is released and Nikita said that then work on this mod will continue

...since soon i'm will continue my works with Thunder

I want here to remind on some suggestions and propositions that I posted since last release ... almost 2 years ago
There was two set of questions:

I played new version of mod for some time and here is some questions,suggestions and new ideas for Nikita:
1. I played as Euroasian Union and in series of events for reorganisation of Union I give independence to Chinese states, but, Taiwan remains under direct control, do you plan to add alternative on that, I mean puppet Taiwan.
2. Why Belarus exists as puppet state and not as RK, Belarussia practicaly suffered a genocide in WW2 so I don't think that Germans would give it better treatment than other puppet states in Eastern Europe, even in this timeline. More likely, it could even get worse for Belarussia.
3. Why is Peshawar part of DR Afghanistan instead of PR Pakistan after reorganisation of Euroasian Union?
4. Info. about War in Union of South Africa - Azania, Botswana, Zimbabwe and Namibia declare war and independence from Union of South Africa, but, front with Namibia is quiet while battles rage between Azania, Botswana and South Africa. On the other hand, Portugal declare war on Namibia while Portugese colonies Angola, Congo and Mozambique are neutral and so Namibia sweep across Portugese controled Rhodesia and no peace is in sight after that.
5. Why is Wolgaland neutral in German Civil War? Same about Cossakia?
6. Cossakia is also neutral in German CW, Both Novoslavia and Euroasian Union should have option to take opportunity and retake it.
7. Euroasian Union should have option to sieze/set up puppet Sri Lanka after start of German CW.
8. Egypt retake Alexandria after start of Italian CW, so, should he have same option for Suez when German CW start?
9. Similar with Singapore, should he get independence or be siezed by someone after start of German CW, same suggestion for other German colonies in Africa and Indian Ocean.
10. Italian colonies of Lybia, Tunisia, Ethiopia rebel against Empire at start of Italian CW, will you add same for Regno Africano?
11. PR Anhui flag - We all know that almost all communust flags follow the similar pattern with red flag or red stars, or both, I have to propose that flag of Anhui be slightly changed, white stars should be replased with red ones, while green with blue stripes should remain.
12. Suggestion for new event chain for Euroasian Union than will be alternative for WW3 in 1989: Since Germany and it's allies would be very depend of oil from Middle East, Euroasian Union could strike in mid-1980 on Iran and Iraq that are weak due to war. Euroasian Union then set up puppet governments and continue with communist coups and military intervention throught the Arab world. Germany will then probably intervene and that lead to WW3, but, Germany will have weaker army and economy by series of events for Oil Crisis, plus, it gives Soviets alternative attack route bypassing Ural Mountains.
13. Is there plan to add some new event chain for collapse of Euroasian Union in late 1980s, that could prevent WW3, but, it could lead to struggle between German and American block for influence over new governments of various countries.
14. Balkan region is strategicaly very important to Germans so after Himmler wins German Civil War it should be reshaped according to Nazi hardliners plans, here is suggestion:
- Nazi Croatia - Since Croation Ustase government was one of Hitlers most faitfull allies during WW2 they should be first to give support to Himmler, also Ustase doctrine was that Croats are not Slavs, but, Goths so that fits with Nazi ideology.
- RK Prinz Eugen Gau - Serbia is occupied and new RK is formed where Germans from Banat are leaders and country is open for German colonisation to create full German majority.
- Montenegro and Albania - they become/remain Italian puppets.
- Bulgaria - Bulgarian fascists would see new German Nazi expansionism as threat and decide to join alliance with Imperial Italy.
- Greece - Greece takes pro-German stance since alliance with German will help them to retake lost lands from Albania and Bulgaria.
- RK Dacia - Romania is occupied and RK is formed because it's oil is to valuable to be of direct German control, some land: Moldavia, southern Transsylvania is lost to neighbours.

That's all for now, more will be posted as I play, I know that work is shifted to PWV mod, but, anyway, this notes could be usefull later.

Thanks for earlier answers, here is more info:
1. PR Japan doesn't have claims on islands [Okinawa, Iwo Jima...] also it does not have claims on whole Hokkaido [Kushiro province], will that be added/fixed?
2. At start of game Euroasian Union have option to create loyal PR Philippines and PR Japan, will same option be added for Papua New Guinea?
3. At start of game Peru occupies whole Ecuador and Columbia, I think it should be more logical that it should be re-shaped to be, lets say, Andean Federation, or to be reformed into it in early game. There could be later options for claims on Bolivia and Chile. I mean, if Carribean Fed. exists, why Andean Fed. shouldn't?
4. Info from the game: Rebellion broke out in SR Zhili, in Yangguan province, and it lasted for 10 in-game years.
5. Marocco have military access through German Reich, instead Reich should have access throughout Marocco.
6. About Serbian expansionism: Besides notes that I wrote recently to be added, I think that ultimatum to Hungary for Novi Sad province should be also added, maybe ultamatum could fire after Hungarian defeat from Romania.
7. Idea about Cuba: You said earlier that there ain't gonna be Cuban Revolution and F.Castro since USSR influence that could make that happen don't exist like in OTL. So I suggest that kind of national revolution could occur in early game, 1964-65, led by some nationalist or populist leader that is against US influence [could be ahistorical/fantasy leader]. USA, because are busy with Pacific War, only issue embargo to Cuba, but, Germans see opportunity and sent support for new regime. That could later lead to Cuban Crisis in late 1960s between German Reich and NATO, of course, WW3 is evaded then, but, US-German Relations are severely damaged. All that serve as pretext for early 1970s NATO-Euroasian Union Detente and it gives strategically important ally in Caribbean for German Reich in later case of WW3 with NATO.

That's all for now.

And there was Nikita's answers:

1. People's Republic of Taiwan will added as new faction with its own tag.

2. Pro-German Belraus is part of the mod lore. Like i'm said before RK Ostland will have its own expansion quests against Belarus and Novoslavia. I'm sure that Berlin would never protest against expansion toward non-german territories

Second- Historicaly, in 1944 Germany aprroved creation of Belarus Central Rada. De-jure it was Belarussian version of the Lokot Republic, Belarussian nationalists gained a large autonomy and formed its own defence forces. In summer of 1944 was formed first Belarussian SS division. But it was 1944 and Fall of the Reich was inevitable

What we have? In 1948 Germany was nuked by US, the front began to collapse rapidly. Italy also was nuked, Italy was partially occupied by Allied forces. In order to stabilize the situation in the east, it was decided to form the Belarusian central rada and create Novoslavia.


When I started work on this mod, i'm asked community to let me remove Communist Finland and replace it with Pro-German Finnish Republic, remove Vlasov's Russia and replace it with RK Moskowien, remove Scandinavia and replace it with Pro-German Sweden and RK Norway

I was refused, as it would be a pure plagiarism of the Fatherland mod.

3 and 4. Will corrected

5. What the reason ? What Wolgaland will receive from this war? The same goes for Cossackia, independence is dear to them, and they will never fight with the one who gave it to them. In a case of defeat, Cossacks will a labor force for RK Caucasien. Cossackia is eastern version of Swiss.

6. Novoslavia already has expansion quests agsint Cossackia. Novoslavia will attack in 1972. Cossackia is a part of German Defence alliance against Soviets, Berlin will never just watch for Soviet Expansion

7,8 and 9 . In general, interesting ideas, I'll think about them.

10. Yes

11,12. These ideas will be accurately realized. Thank you so much.

13. I have repeated many times that in such a reality, the policy of perestroika and glasnost is not even theoretically possible. Since there are people in power who will introduce preparations for an inevitable war of revenge against Germany. Earlier I said that in the new version the player will have the opportunity to create an Asian socialist union, where the power will belong to the figures from Asian communist parties.

14. Yes, I heard about the self-Germanization of the Ustase. Moreover, I plan to implement flavor events like a Germanization of the Croatian Language, Germanization of the Cinema, German names for the towns and villages.
For everything else, thank you so much, will be implemented.

Concering points 1, 3 , 4 , 5 ,6 and 7 - I'm totally agree. The implementation of these ideas will take a lot of time, but I will definitely do it.
Point 2 - Not certainly in that way. Will added People's Republic of Indonesia

I hope some of this stuff will be implemented in next version.

 

[Pioniere]

Soviet coldwar pics.

 

[Nesic8693]

Since, there are plans for continuation of development of Thunder in the Sky, what could we expect in future?