The Pope can't count when Requesting Claims

[Marconius]

Information​

I have verifed my game files (Steam only)​

Yes

I have disabled all mods​

Yes

I am running the latest game update​

Yes

Required​

Summary​

The Pope can't count when Requesting Claims

Description​

When doing Request Claim from the Pope, the values shown for the decision don't add up to the total.

It also feels like it's way too easy to get a claim, but I'm not sure that part is actually a bug,

Steps to reproduce​

1. Open any Request Claim to the Pope.
2. Add up the values shown against the total.

Game Version​

1.12.2.1

Platform​

Windows

Additional Information​

Affected Feature​

• Gameplay
• Interface

Save Game​

View attachment pope.ck3

Other Attachments​

 

[st1552]

Running into the same problem. I think what's happening is now the acceptance also relates to the Pope's opinion to the requestee (King Lothaire II in your case), but this somehow does not show in the calculation. An easy way to verify is to open debug mode, control the requestee, change the Pope's opinion, and switch back to the requester. You will see the acceptance score change. In your case, it must be that the Pope hates King Lothaire II...

I'm guessing it's not shown in the accept score breakdown because Paradox doesn't want you to easily see the Pope's opinion to other characters. Not sure if it's the only thing hidden tho.

 

[Sledjer]

Just looking at the shown numbers, it looks like they would add up if the base reluctance shows negative but is sign flipped in the actual calculation which would be a pretty big bug for calculating claim granting.

 

[Larva]

It's same for other religion s too

And indeed it looks like there is a hidden value of 'religious head opinion of target' in works here

 

[Mastercal40]

There is indeed a modifier. See below from 00_religious_interactions.txt:

modifier = { # Unlikely if recipient likes Secondary Recipient
            add = {
                if = {
                    limit = {
                        NOT = { scope:recipient = scope:secondary_recipient }
                    }
                    subtract = "scope:recipient.opinion(scope:secondary_recipient)"
                }
            }
        }

Perhaps the bug is that there isn't a desc = XXX on this modifier?

 

[Mastercal40]

I did a little testing and yeah, PDX just need to replace the above with this:

opinion_modifier = {
            trigger = {
                NOT = { scope:recipient = scope:secondary_recipient }
            }
            who = scope:recipient
            opinion_target = scope:secondary_recipient
            multiplier = -1
            desc = AI_OPINION_REASON
        }

Everything then adds up:

 

[cavveman]

No wonder there was so many claims to ask the pope. Good job @Mastercal40