Confirmed Stellaris - GDF Fleet counts towards Empire Fleet Cap

[rtho782]

Description
GDF Fleet counts towards Empire Fleet Cap

Game Version
3.4.2

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?
Synthetic Dawn, Utopia, Leviathans Story Pack, Apocalypse, Megacorp, Distant Stars, Ancient Relics, Lithoids, Federations, Nemesis, Aquatics

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
Simple really, as custodian, have a GDF fleet, watch as you go way over your fleet cap.

Steps to reproduce the issue.


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[lumpyprol]

this is happening in my game too

 

[Coreyjet]

This is also happening to me. I posted a bug report also. I'm hoping this will be fixed soon. Really effecting my gameplay.

 

[Aurelio123]

Can confirm

 

[Meme_Drone [Qloc]]

Hello!

Thank you for the report!

We have added the issue to our bug database.

 

[Catello99]

This bug is occurring for me as well!
If I try to specify the make-up of the GDF in my fleet designer, it also prevents me from putting more than my current fleet cap in the GDF

 

[Mímisbrunnr]

Hello!

Thank you for the report!

We have added the issue to our bug database.

On a different note, longer term, could we look into changing the fleet caps of federations. Even 600 is far too low, as 20% - 30% of even one player's fleet can easily provide all of it - even 10% with Entente Coordination, really - making federations effectively waste fleet cap.

 

[Venom Crusader]

Can confirm this is still an issue as of 3.4.3

 

[Coreyjet]

Hoping they fix this with the next patch.

 

[mega introvert]

Hoping they fix this with the next patch.

Seems like they didn't

 

[matt_mills]

Seems like they didn't

This post was made May 14th and 3.4.3 was released May 19th. That isn't enough time to bug fix anything but critical bugs (IE, game breaking).

 

[mega introvert]

It hasn't been fixed in 3.4.4 either though

 

[Mímisbrunnr]

@Eladrin Please, make sure this is fixed in 3.4.4 or a key feature (Federal/GDF/Imperial fleets) will be broken all summer.

EDIT, 6/20: Also, it seems like I might have misunderstood some of the other reports - it may be that Federation Fleets were fine all along and it was GDF at fault. My sincerest apologies if this is the case.

EDIT, 6/20: Also, it seems like I might have misunderstood some of the other reports - it may be that Federation Fleets were fine all along and it was GDF at fault. My sincerest apologies if this is the case.

 

[Harkinian's Dinner]

I'm not sure the devs prioritized the right fixes for 3.4.4. This one and the bug where fleets refuse to use regular hyperlane connections if there's a hyper relay connection between the same systems (even when they have to cross the whole system to reach the relay) are really bad.

 

[Mímisbrunnr]

@Eladrin, @Alfray Stryke , etc.: Devs, any word on this - even if its not what we like to hear, just so that we know what's going to happen here or even that the issue is at least on the radar, like some combination of:

"It's not going to be in 3.4.4" [for example, because its more complicated to solve than it seems].
OR
"We're working on it, but we aren't sure if it will make 3.4.4 in time"
OR
"We've heard the clamor for this to be fixed, we're working on it, and it will be added in 3.4.4 after all"
OR
"We don't know."
OR
Some other response corresponding to a situation

That would be much appreciated.

 

[Mímisbrunnr]

6/20: it seems like I might have misunderstood some of the other reports - it may be that Federation Fleets were fine all along and it was GDF at fault. My sincerest apologies if this is the case.

Also, Eladrin has confirmed Fed Fleets work correctly in 3.4.4, but not GDF - though with the lulzy side effect that you can get dozens of Titans in the GDF now at the cost of them counting against national naval capacity by glitch. Eladrin thinks that the new distinction between owned and controlled fleets may be at issue

 

[PopeBarley]

Confirmed

 

[MonzUn]

Hello! I've implemented a fix for this issue that will be in 3.5 if it passes QA.
Since there was some discussion as to where the issue applied, let me clear some of it up
Federation fleets are unaffected, but both GDF and Imperial Armada have the issue.
It may have been a bit inconsistent, since this only affected places where we calculate how much of the naval cap is used by the fleet size.
For any place where we only calculated the fleet size alone, it worked properly, so different places in the game and UI have either counted GDF and the Armada, or not.

 

[Mímisbrunnr]

Hello! I've implemented a fix for this issue that will be in 3.5 if it passes QA.
Since there was some discussion as to where the issue applied, let me clear some of it up
Federation fleets are unaffected, but both GDF and Imperial Armada have the issue.
It may have been a bit inconsistent, since this only affected places where we calculate how much of the naval cap is used by the fleet size.
For any place where we only calculated the fleet size alone, it worked properly, so different places in the game and UI have either counted GDF and the Armada, or not.

Thank you very much!

Also, sorry for the confusion on the matter - earlier on I gravely misunderstood what others had wrote and accidentally spread misinformation based on the incorrect understanding - which I desperately sought to correct when I realized the matter.

On a tangential note, though its not a bug, as a balance matter, could PDX consider looking at the caps on Federation Fleets. 200/400/600 is so low that often naval capacity in federations are heavily wasted as even just one member can end up providing for more than the entire amount.

 

[jhfenton]

Thank you very much!

Also, sorry for the confusion on the matter - earlier on I gravely misunderstood what others had wrote and accidentally spread misinformation based on the incorrect understanding - which I desperately sought to correct when I realized the matter.

On a tangential note, though its not a bug, as a balance matter, could PDX consider looking at the caps on Federation Fleets. 200/400/600 is so low that often naval capacity in federations are heavily wasted as even just one member can end up providing for more than the entire amount.

Agreed. Whatever the caps are, a Federation should not destroy collective naval capacity by taking more cap in the aggregate than used.