Religions + Tech groups

[Lord Raglan]

Hi, i was just wondering how they will be handled in for the glory - will all religions have bonuses and negatives like before or will the religion have less disadvantages than before

urm... don't think i've explained that very well, right what i mean is that the ottoman empire and malasia are both muslim (i think i'm right in saying there both sunni), in EUII this means they both get the same modifier for stability, trade, infrastructure, etc etc. Now they were very different countries so does this make the most sense? i'm not really sure how this should be changed or even if it should be, but wanted to ask.

Now we also have tech groups (latin, exotic, etc etc) Again in EU2 they are set at the start of te game, and other than some rare case they stay the same. But if i was playing say the mameluks and was doing better than france, should i not also get the advantage of a better tech group?

What i mean is the assumption that europe will always develop quicker than the rest of the world, and in general i like this as i usually play a european nation - but should this always be the case?

 

[unmerged(40707)]

Unlimited number of religions and techgroup... any possible combination! And Sunni world can indeed be splitted in small parts with different effects for more accurate setup for "different" but compatible religions and for techgroups.

 

[Eraclio]

Unlimited number of religions and techgroup...(...)

Are there also heresies?

 

[Lord Raglan]

oh and one more thing i forgot to put in the first post - can we have sliders for all of them.

I hate capturing a hindu provience and finding that i have terriable relgious tollerance because of a single slider i have put into the negative

 

[Incompetent]

Unlimited number of religions and techgroup... any possible combination! And Sunni world can indeed be splitted in small parts with different effects for more accurate setup for "different" but compatible religions and for techgroups.

Does this mean we can have multiple religions for government purposes that have the same province religion (like Catholic vs CRC)?

Will we be able to customise all effects of government religion? I'm thinking:

- which religions can marry (flippable by event a la Edict of Tolerance?)

- which voluntary conversions are possible

- which religions can force-convert each other

- which province religions are grouped together for tolerance sliders of a given government religion

- the stability cost of province religion A for government religion B (eg the way Christian stability costs are different for 'non-Christian' than for 'Christian but not state religion')

- the effect of wrong religion for tax and manpower (eg a non-Muslim province in a Muslim country should give *increased* tax but reduced manpower)

- which religions have an automatic CB on which others

?

 

[unmerged(40707)]

Yes to (almost) all... and more. Just wait for the corresponding dev diary.

 

[orimazd]

Now we also have tech groups (latin, exotic, etc etc) Again in EU2 they are set at the start of te game, and other than some rare case they stay the same. But if i was playing say the mameluks and was doing better than france, should i not also get the advantage of a better tech group?

That should depend on how many cultures you are governing. I tend to think that tech group should be determined by innovativeness.

 

[unmerged(49695)]

Does this mean we can have multiple religions for government purposes that have the same province religion (like Catholic vs CRC)?

Will we be able to customise all effects of government religion? I'm thinking:

- which religions can marry (flippable by event a la Edict of Tolerance?)

- which voluntary conversions are possible

- which religions can force-convert each other

- which province religions are grouped together for tolerance sliders of a given government religion

- the stability cost of province religion A for government religion B (eg the way Christian stability costs are different for 'non-Christian' than for 'Christian but not state religion')

- the effect of wrong religion for tax and manpower (eg a non-Muslim province in a Muslim country should give *increased* tax but reduced manpower)

- which religions have an automatic CB on which others

?

if you mean ingame changing, I belive it shouldnt be there, as it would create absurd cases of catholics marrying incas pagans or something. If you mean being able to mod it after the game is out, sure why not.

 

[Incompetent]

if you mean ingame changing, I belive it shouldnt be there, as it would create absurd cases of catholics marrying incas pagans or something. If you mean being able to mod it after the game is out, sure why not.

Actually, in-game changing by event would be great. It would be nice, for instance, to be able to represent a wider range of Protestant sects, and have a more sophisticated evolution in who gets along with whom as the Reformation and Counter-Reformation progress.

(Of course I don't mean 'player chooses how it works'... that would be silly!)

 

[unmerged(40707)]

Once again, there is no limit for religions. We even implemented Hussites for Bohemia.

 

[Prinz Wilhelm]

Once again, there is no limit for religions. We even implemented Hussites for Bohemia.

So one could have, let's say, Calvinism and Anglicanism as two seperate religions, but in a close relationship? Just an example.

Edit: And these religions can be activated and de-activated, right?

So if I am right, one can make the religion of the Kingdom of England Anglican (and also activate the religion, etc) with the reforms of King Henry VIII?

 

[MichaelM]

So one could have, let's say, Calvinism and Anglicanism as two seperate religions, but in a close relationship? Just an example.

Edit: And these religions can be activated and de-activated, right?

So if I am right, one can make the religion of the Kingdom of England Anglican (and also activate the religion, etc) with the reforms of King Henry VIII?

Yep.

 

[Toio]

So one could have, let's say, Calvinism and Anglicanism as two seperate religions, but in a close relationship? Just an example.

Edit: And these religions can be activated and de-activated, right?

So if I am right, one can make the religion of the Kingdom of England Anglican (and also activate the religion, etc) with the reforms of King Henry VIII?

Will all your provinces follow suit immediately or do you anticipate some form of delay ?

 

[unmerged(40707)]

Will all your provinces follow suit immediately or do you anticipate some form of delay ?

It depends what will be included in corresponding events but no more hardcoded change of religion for provinces in the night... impossible with reworked religion structure but still possible by event and enhanced script engine.