Thank you for bringing that up. I considered mentioning it, but thought it might be too confusing or misconstrued as an argument that some Eastern European ethnic groups don't exist.
Question about Continental Saxons Religion
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French comparison is a bad one in a sense that knowing English doesn't really make reading or speaking French any easier. However knowing Old Norse actually helped me when I wanted to learn the basics of Anglo-Saxon. And I can actually understand quite a bit of the Old Saxon texts based on my understanding of other Germanic languages. Some words and structures are actually quite close of their Scandinavian equivalents.
As a native French speakers I disagree. Especially for reading.
Many English word are from Latin origin (over 50%) and many of them share the exact syntax as their French equivalent thus for a French speaker it is quite easy to have a decent vocabulary in only one or two years of learning english (in which much of the vocabulary focus is on the words from germanic origin).
Even without I could actually play many text heavy game in english like Age of Empire when I was 7 years old with only a few dozen english words in my vocabulary and still mostly understand what was written.
Well most of the time at least.
In my view English is as easy if not more (due to simple grammar) to learn for a French speaker than any other Romance language.
Now I don't know how it goes for the reverse but on many website French is often on the Top 3/5/10 most easy language to learn for English speakers.
As an old english teacher of mine used to say with humour:
If you're having a discussion in English and you happen to be unsure on a word just say the French one but with an English accent !
You have 50% chance to be right. And if your interlocutor doesn't understand try a synonym !
Focusing on the gameplay and ideas for modding, it may be possible to change pagan religion mechanics into Indian religion mechanics. Though I would like a confirmation that the code would allow for two different religion groups with Indian mechanics. Germanic could be specified to Vanir and Æsir, with patron deities that would function accordingly. That actually sounds like a lot of fun, Maybe even taking up aspects of Loki and his children. The overall idea is trying to spec your character and dynasty into having certain bonuses. Not sure if anyone else has already done something similar.
'They' as a group may not, but members of the group may well (much like recent immigrants to new countries today) - there can hardly have been zero contact between Saxony and Denmark. Given trading contacts, a fair amount of the Greek nobility would have been able to either at least follow Italian, or employ somebody who spoke it (not least because a fair number were already taking precautions in the event of Ottoman attack by 1453).
As a native French speakers I disagree. Especially for reading.
Many English word are from Latin origin (over 50%) and many of them share the exact syntax as their French equivalent thus for a French speaker it is quite easy to have a decent vocabulary in only one or two years of learning english (in which much of the vocabulary focus is on the words from germanic origin).
Even without I could actually play many text heavy game in english like Age of Empire when I was 7 years old with only a few dozen english words in my vocabulary and still mostly understand what was written.
Well most of the time at least.
In my view English is as easy if not more (due to simple grammar) to learn for a French speaker than any other Romance language.
Now I don't know how it goes for the reverse but on many website French is often on the Top 3/5/10 most easy language to learn for English speakers.
As an old english teacher of mine used to say with humour:
If you're having a discussion in English and you happen to be unsure on a word just say the French one but with an English accent !
You have 50% chance to be right. And if your interlocutor doesn't understand try a synonym !
In a similar way you can understand some Latin if you know the English language, because there are plenty of loan words from Latin. However knowing some words doesn't make it any easier to understand the structures of the foreign language. Personally I think that knowledge in Latin and other Romance languages is much more useful when person is trying to learn French than what knowledge in English is.
In similar manner old Norman French has plenty of Norse loan words, but Old Norse doesn't considerably help when you try to learn the Norman language. In case of Old Norse and Old Saxon, besides the shared words, there are also similar structures which make it easier to understand even if you have never read the Saxon language before.
Sure but I still maintain that knowledge og English does make reading and speaking French easier. It maybe doesn't help learning grammar/conjuagation but it's only a part of learning a language. Vocabulary can be just as difficult especially if your native language doesn't share much with the language your learning.
We are talking of thousands of words to learn to be fluent one day.
I happened to have an english course with other nationalities most being from other Romance countries and while we were all quite fluent in English it was very clear that I had an edge on vocabulary.
Not that it surprised my british teacher.
Now I don't know if learning latin is better to learn French for an English than sharing a lot of vocabulary with us but I only said that this knowledge did make the learning easier not that it was the easiest way to learn French.
Knowing any language helps at learning new languages. But here we are discussing if Saxons could communicate with Danes or not. I'm still claiming that English and French are a bad comparison and I'm also claiming that it was easier for a Saxon to communicate with a Dane than it is for an Englishman to communicate with a French.
Of course Old Saxon and Norse possible mutual intelligibitly is not comparable to English and French simililarities.
Of course they could communicate. They didn't sit in their reslm without contact to each other. Merchant, Mercenaries, adventurers and so on traveled arround. In border regions people maybe grew up multilingual. Lords and local elites maybe had translators or were able on their own to speak multiple languages.
But its funny how threads can go way off topic
Still, Saxons and norse should be both germanic. The had the same gods and pretty similar religious customs. And pagan religions weren't somehow codified. There could be large differences between neighbour villages in practicing their faith.
For game mechanics: Maybe more heresies or a shism some decades after reforming it. With an Empire breaking civil war or something.
But its funny how threads can go way off topic
Still, Saxons and norse should be both germanic. The had the same gods and pretty similar religious customs. And pagan religions weren't somehow codified. There could be large differences between neighbour villages in practicing their faith.
For game mechanics: Maybe more heresies or a shism some decades after reforming it. With an Empire breaking civil war or something.