Malictor Lure of the Dark not working?

[giovdb]

Hello,

I'm playing the first Syndicate Campaign Mission and acquired a Malictor. I successfully used Lure of the Dark in another Malictor unit, but when the battle ended, I didn't acquire the new unit. The enemy Malictor was the last unit on the field. Am I misunderstanding something, or is this a bug?

I'm using no mods, and no expansions.

Attached is the quicksave right before the battle, and then the save after the battle.

 

[NINJEW]

In most circumstances you dont get to keep the mind controlled unit (it broke aow3 super duper hard). Your options for permanent mind control are syndicate Deploy Cerebral Control Collars (hero/subjugator ability), which turns the MC'd unit into an indentured at battle end, and the drained unit from heritor, which does give you the unit permanently but requires you to get the drained to prime rank, and then you lose the drained when you use the MC ability

All other mind control abilities only last for the duration of the battle

 

[giovdb]

In most circumstances you dont get to keep the mind controlled unit (it broke aow3 super duper hard). Your options for permanent mind control are syndicate Deploy Cerebral Control Collars (hero/subjugator ability), which turns the MC'd unit into an indentured at battle end, and the drained unit from heritor, which does give you the unit permanently but requires you to get the drained to prime rank, and then you lose the drained when you use the MC ability

All other mind control abilities only last for the duration of the battle

But some mind control specifically state *until end of battle*. This one does not. Same with the Transcendant Teacher. Is the tag wrong? Or does it have a *chance* to work permanently? Because I did "convert" a unit to my cause accidentally after they attacked one my bases.

 

[giovdb]

In most circumstances you dont get to keep the mind controlled unit (it broke aow3 super duper hard). Your options for permanent mind control are syndicate Deploy Cerebral Control Collars (hero/subjugator ability), which turns the MC'd unit into an indentured at battle end, and the drained unit from heritor, which does give you the unit permanently but requires you to get the drained to prime rank, and then you lose the drained when you use the MC ability

All other mind control abilities only last for the duration of the battle

Oh, and Amazons can definitely do it to animals.

 

[NINJEW]

forgot about the animal one, that's the third source of perma MC yep.

no, there are no chance mechanics in conversion outside of landing the convert. i guarantee you if you convert 50 units with lure of the dark none of them will hang around on the strat map, and if it did happen i would report it as a bug

 

[giovdb]

So why did I gain a unit after Marauder's attacked one of my colonies? I automated the battle, so I'm not even sure what happened. The text said I converted one of them to my cause, but I don't understand why. I thought it was because of an ability similar to Lure of the dark.

 

[NINJEW]

without seeing the battle, i don't know. there's actually a button to rewatch autocombats in the results screen

 

[Ethorin]

was it animal marauders attacking an Amazon city? Amazons have a permanent tac op mind control for animals.