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Nikolai II

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What is the official line for the Golden Horde?

Is it supposed to fall on the wayside like a road waffle or would it be OK to apply something like the Timurid Dreams on it? (i.e. loads of bad sh*t, but if this is survived then it can get a resurgence in midgame with some good stuff and then get bad sh*t again at the end?)
 
It could be possible...
Problem is the Ukraine is planned as our siberian colonizer and I got 2 big sunnis already in Europe.;) But be more specific, what would your plan be.
 
2 big sunnis? Grenada and Caliphate?

I figured big fat revolt event (current one with addition of permanent RR in several of the provinces) and then some additional 'Pro-Ukrainian movements' (possibly even going as far as 'Battle of Panipat' (with b_options though)) that kick in a few times 1460-1520.

but if GH survives this (possibly also a demand to manage to take out UKR) then it should get to form into the replacement claimant of Siberia and get a renaissance (Babur-class leaders and a time of relative glory, more CBs in europe etc)
Then finalize with another set of nasty events, choosing between decentralized narrowminded serf-state or massive stabhits with a side order of revolts as the GH tries to dissolve again - or move kicking and screaming into the 19th century.
 
It should be possible, but it should be difficult. And it is one of the definite after 1.00 things, which means other great powers first.
 
TheArchduke said:
It should be possible, but it should be difficult. And it is one of the definite after 1.00 things, which means other great powers first.

Bah :)

Maybe I'll update the base revolt event a bit then, to make it rougher, so we can see how the Ukraine manages. I'll send it in later then, from my e-mail ztyx@ ;)