I am comeing to pdx games via hoi (hoi2 was my first pdx game). The start and end date in hoi is more or less clear to my, but im curious why we are playing eu from 1444 to 1821.
1821 is the towards the end of the late Modern Age (which some historians in the real world put at the Congress of Vienna of 1815), and thus a good ending point for a game that is about the Modern Age. Also, 1821 is the year of death of Napoleon and of the independence of most Spanish territories in the Americas, which ended European colonisation and domination of the Americas. Spiritually and in practical terms, it is the end of what EU4 tries to be about.
The game begins one day after the battle of varna. If it would start a week earlier we would have a Polish-Hungarian Union in the middle of a war against the Ottomans...
End date is a bit strange though
"Maybe"? Reliably. The Ottomans would not be able to have their historically-sized army.That would actually be a more interesting start date. Maybe Ottomans get crushed and never rise.
Why? England wasn't at war with France on the 11th of November 1444. There was a truce between them at the time.Bring back England starting at war with France too.
Two additional points:
First, 1444 allows players to try to survive as the Eastern Roman Empire, that most romantic of doomed causes.
Second, Paradox likes switching around its start dates. EU1 started in 1492; EU2 began in 1419 (I can't for the life of me remember why); EU3 originally began in 1453 which caused much sadness on these boards, and was eventually extended to 1399 (again, no idea). The end date doesn't change, though.
Second, Paradox likes switching around its start dates. EU1 started in 1492; EU2 began in 1419 (I can't for the life of me remember why); EU3 originally began in 1453 which caused much sadness on these boards, and was eventually extended to 1399 (again, no idea). The end date doesn't change, though.
"Maybe"? Reliably. The Ottomans would not be able to have their historically-sized army.
Why? England wasn't at war with France on the 11th of November 1444. There was a truce between them at the time.
Thank you for answering 1419.1419 marked the start of The Hussite Wars.
1399 marked The Battle of Vorskla River, and thus failure of Lithuania to subjugate all of Rus'; but I doubt it is the reason.
Generally correct. My only complaint with them ending in 1821 is that there's currently 15 years of history that is untouched in any Paradox game, as Victoria 2 starts in 1836. I'd have preferred EU4 or the next Victoria game to cover those 15 years (Probably when they make Victoria 3), but that's mainly just personal reasons and not what would actually be good.
1444 is the year of the Battle of Varna between Hungary and the Ottoman Empire, which paved the way for the latter to become a superpower.
The game begins one day after the battle of varna. If it would start a week earlier we would have a Polish-Hungarian Union in the middle of a war against the Ottomans...
The historical outcome of the Battle of Varna is a crushing defeat for Christendom, with the Ottoman army (estimate: 60k) considerably outnumbering the army of King Władysław (estimate: 20-30k).So there should be something hardcoded into the game as one of the starting scenarios with this taking place. Would be good for Byzantine fans too since it gives them a few years respite as the Ottomans and Hungary, probably alonside Austria, duke it out.
That's one way to screw both game balance and historicity, sure.Well, Poland should have a CB restore union with Hungary.