Short summary of your issue
House Claims for artifacts are broken
Game Version
Fleur de Lis
What OS are you playing on?
Windows
What platform are you using?
Steam
What DLC do you have installed?
Royal Court,
Do you have mods enabled?
No
Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
Yes
How much "pain" is this causing you?
6
Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Two issues:
1. Artifacts held in unbroken custody by the same house for some number of years acquire a House Claim, which allows any member of the house to claim the artifact if it ever gets unjustly taken by anyone outside the house. However, this "outside the house" condition does not seem to be actually checked or enforced currently. I have a Brooch that was received from an Adventurer inspiration by my grandfather and held totally uncontested by my characters ever since. Once it hit the right age and acquired the House Claim, distant family member vassals have started demanding that I hand the artifact over to them, even though they have no personal claim to it whatsoever. So it seems they are able to use the House Claim to make these demands even though the item is still held by a house member which should render it unusable. So I am forced to incur to ridiculously heavy -60(!) opinion penalty with pretty much every one of my same-house vassals, which obviously causes a lot of problems.
2. When a cadet branch is formed, it appears that the cadet house gets its own house claim on all the artifacts its originating house had claims on. This contradicts the tooltip which I believe says only artifacts actually held by members of the cadet branch should have their claims replaced with that of the cadet house. If issue #1 is fixed without this also being addressed, then it will result in repeating the same problem, since then the original branch rightful holder of the artifact won't match the cadet branch, and all cadet branch members will start spamming their demands and destroying opinion.
Please explain how to reproduce the issue
Hold an artifact in the same house until a House Claim develops, and observe random vassals of your own house start demanding it non-stop
Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
I have attached a save game
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House Claims for artifacts are broken
Game Version
Fleur de Lis
What OS are you playing on?
Windows
What platform are you using?
Steam
What DLC do you have installed?
Royal Court,
Do you have mods enabled?
No
Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
Yes
How much "pain" is this causing you?
6
Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Two issues:
1. Artifacts held in unbroken custody by the same house for some number of years acquire a House Claim, which allows any member of the house to claim the artifact if it ever gets unjustly taken by anyone outside the house. However, this "outside the house" condition does not seem to be actually checked or enforced currently. I have a Brooch that was received from an Adventurer inspiration by my grandfather and held totally uncontested by my characters ever since. Once it hit the right age and acquired the House Claim, distant family member vassals have started demanding that I hand the artifact over to them, even though they have no personal claim to it whatsoever. So it seems they are able to use the House Claim to make these demands even though the item is still held by a house member which should render it unusable. So I am forced to incur to ridiculously heavy -60(!) opinion penalty with pretty much every one of my same-house vassals, which obviously causes a lot of problems.
2. When a cadet branch is formed, it appears that the cadet house gets its own house claim on all the artifacts its originating house had claims on. This contradicts the tooltip which I believe says only artifacts actually held by members of the cadet branch should have their claims replaced with that of the cadet house. If issue #1 is fixed without this also being addressed, then it will result in repeating the same problem, since then the original branch rightful holder of the artifact won't match the cadet branch, and all cadet branch members will start spamming their demands and destroying opinion.
Please explain how to reproduce the issue
Hold an artifact in the same house until a House Claim develops, and observe random vassals of your own house start demanding it non-stop
Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
I have attached a save game
Yes
Upload Attachment
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