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Hehe, since I kinda like this discussion, I'll outline my point again:

EU2 is generally about countries or rather, territories connected to one political entity ruled by one prince (excepting the republican states), not about dynasties. Most territories ruled by one dynasty are divided into its branches in EU2, like the Wittelsbach, Jagellon or Luxemburg possessions. This makes most sense since the different princes from one dynasty very often acted independently from each other and pursued their own policy.
However, for the most important dynasty of all, the Hapsburgs, EU2 makes a strange exception. The Hapsburg territories that were IRL divided into three branches, Austria, Styria and Tyrol, that were definitely as autonomous as the Wittelsbach branches, are merged into one dynastic country in 1419. This makes for quite an ahistorical and unbalanced setup: Austria is much stronger than it was at that time and can start conquering Germany very early; in fact it was a territory just like the other HRE principalities, and not more powerful than the Palatinate, Brandenburg or Saxony. During the 15th century there were several conflicts between the branches, and I don't see much evidence for a common politic at that time. Both Tyrol and Styria didn't care much for their Austrian relatives.
Also the Burgundian inheritance is handled in a very strange way.
Austria was not united with the Netherlands before the Peace of Rastatt; Maximilian of Hapsburg was not yet Emperor and Archduke of Austria when he became Duke of Burgundy by his marriage with Mary, and when he succeeded his father Friedrich V, he had to turn Burgundy over to his son Philipp the Fair. Burgundy actually should be united with Spain in 1516 when Carlos I ascends the Spanish throne.

This inconsistency would be more acceptable if it was at least applied consequently to the Hapsburg dynasty. However, Spain that belonged as much to Austria (if Austria represents the Hapsburg dynasty and not the country itself, as Paradox seems to intend) as Tyrol or Styria in the 15th century or Burgundy is not inherited by Austria, which makes the whole thing a complete mess. E.g. it is really stupid that Austria can decide whether to turn over the Netherlands and Italy upon Charles' abdication.
 

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I agree completely, Burgundy became the 'Spanish Habsburgs' turning into basically the fourth branch.
Styria passed to Austria in 1439, HOWEVER Tyrol did not pass to Austria permanently until 1665.
 

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Styria passed to Austria in 1463. When Friedrich of Styria took control of Austria, his brother got Styria. The two brothers fought over possession of Styria and Austria, and Albrecht even occupied the majority of Friedrich's holdings, but then he died and everything returned to the emperor.
Both Tyrol and Styria became independent again by the division of the Austrian Hapsburg's lands after Ferdinand's death.
 

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Yeah, but the Netherlands were independent under the Archdukes (Albert and Isabella) from 1598 to 1621. If Styria and Tyrol should be independent in 1600, so should the Netherlands.
 

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My research shows Styria was directly ruled by the Austrian administration from the 12th century. I think the rulership by a seperate branch of the family had less autonomy than you thought.

Tirol wasn't permanently annexed into Austria until 1665, but after 1493 appears to have pretty much become a vassal state appendage to the crown, and perhaps shouldn't even be independent.
 
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I just wrote these up for the EEP. The following events deal with Ferdinand's division of Habsburg lands.

Code:
[color=white]
event = {
	id = 900016
	trigger = {
		or = {
		owned = { province = 369 data = HAB }
		owned = { province = 371 data = HAB }
		owned = { province = 368 data = HAB }
		owned = { province = 367 data = HAB }
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = HAB
	name = "Ferdinandeische Hausordnung"
	desc = "On February 25, 1554 Ferdinand I, together with his three sons, issued a proclamation on the division of his patrimonial lands. Maximilian II was to inherit the Archduchy of Austria both below and above the River Enns, Bohemia and Hungary, in addition to the title of Emperor and the highest position; Ferdinand II was to inherit Tirol and the fore-lands, and Karl II Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Gorizia and Istria. Each was also permitted to carry the coats of arms, banners and title of all territories."
	style = 2
	date = { day = 25 month = february year = 1554 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Issue the decree"
		command = { type = independence which = PRM } #Styria
		command = { type = independence which = U19 } #Tyrol
		command = { type = stability value = 3 }
		command = { type = cash value = 300 }
		#command = { type = alliance which = PRM } #Would this work?
		#command = { type = alliance which = U19 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 900019 } #Österreichischer Bürgerkrieg (Austrian Civil War)
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Give it all to Maximilan II"
		command = { type = stability value = -3 } #Should it be more? :D#
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 900019 } #Österreichischer Bürgerkrieg (Austrian Civil War)
	}
}

event = {
	id = 900017
	trigger = {
	event = 900016
	}
	random = no
	country = PRM
	name = "Ferdinandeische Hausordnung"
	desc = "On February 25, 1554 Ferdinand I, together with his three sons, issued a proclamation on the division of his patrimonial lands. Maximilian II was to inherit the Archduchy of Austria both below and above the River Enns, Bohemia and Hungary, in addition to the title of Emperor and the highest position; Ferdinand II was to inherit Tirol and the fore-lands, and Karl II Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Gorizia and Istria. Each was also permitted to carry the coats of arms, banners and title of all territories."
	style = 2
	date = { day = 25 month = february year = 1554 }
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1600 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Thank you father!"
		command = { type = stability value = 3 }
		command = { type = cash value = 200 }
		command = { type = cav which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = inf which = -2 value = 10000 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = U19 value = 200 }
	}
}
event = {
	id = 900018
	trigger = {
	event = 900016
	}
	random = no
	country = U19
	name = "Ferdinandeische Hausordnung"
	desc = "On February 25, 1554 Ferdinand I, together with his three sons, issued a proclamation on the division of his patrimonial lands. Maximilian II was to inherit the Archduchy of Austria both below and above the River Enns, Bohemia and Hungary, in addition to the title of Emperor and the highest position; Ferdinand II was to inherit Tirol and the fore-lands, and Karl II Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Gorizia and Istria. Each was also permitted to carry the coats of arms, banners and title of all territories."
	style = 2
	date = { day = 25 month = february  year = 1554 }
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1600 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Thank you father!"
		command = { type = stability value = 3 }
		command = { type = cash value = 200 }
		command = { type = cav which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = inf which = -2 value = 10000 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRM value = 200 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = 900019
	random = no
	country = HAB
	name = "Österreichischer Bürgerkrieg"
	desc = "On February 26, 1554 Maximilian II issued a revised proclamation on the division of his patrimonial lands. To the suprise of Karl and Ferdinand II, Maximilian II was to inherit the Archduchy of Austria, Bohemia and Hungary, as well as Tyrol, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Gorizia and Istria. Karl and Ferdinand both have great sway with the local nobility of Tyrol and Styria. The Austrian civil war has begun, but it could be put to an end through the secession of the brothers' rightful inheritances."
	style = 2
	action_a = {
		name = "Give my brothers their fair share"
		command = { type = independence which = PRM } #Styria
		command = { type = independence which = U19 } #Tyrol
		command = { type = stability value = 3 }
		command = { type = cash value = 300 }
		#command = { type = alliance which = PRM } #Would this work?
		#command = { type = alliance which = U19 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Fight the traitors! It's all mine!"
		command = { type = stability value = -3 } #Should it be more? :D#
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 8 } #MORE!?#
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = cash value = -100 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 900020
	trigger = {
	NOT = { war = { HAB PRM } }
	}
	random = no
	country = PRM
	name = "Extinction of the Maximilian line"
	desc = "From 1599 Matthias was a rival of his brother, Emperor Rudolf II, and was finally recognized by the Archdukes as the new head of the family in 1606. In 1608 he was granted the Austrian Danube countries, Moravia and Hungary and in 1611 Bohemia, but since he had no children upon his death in 1619, Ferdinand II of the Styrian line inherited the his lands."
	style = 3 
	date = { day = 15 month = march year = 1619 }
	deathdate = { day = 15 month = march year = 1639 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Become the master of all Austrian lands (GAME OVER)"
		command = { type = trigger which = 900021 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Keep Styrian autonomy"
		command = { type = stability value = -5 } 
	}
}


event = {
	id = 900021
	random = no
	country = HAB
	name = "Extinction of the Maximilian line"
	desc = "From 1599 Matthias was a rival of his brother, Emperor Rudolf II, and was finally recognized by the Archdukes as the new head of the family in 1606. In 1608 he was granted the Austrian Danube countries, Moravia and Hungary and in 1611 Bohemia, but since he had no children upon his death in 1619, Ferdinand II of the Styrian line inherited the his lands."
	style = 3 
	action_a = {
		name = "Wonderful"
		command = { type = inherit which = PRM }
	}
}

event = {
	id = 900022
	trigger = {
	NOT = { war = { HAB U19 } }
	}
	random = no
	country = U19
	name = "Extinction of the Tyrolean Habsburgs"
	desc = "Sigmund Franz was the second son of Leopold V and Claudia von Medici. He became bishop of Augsburg without consecration in 1646, bishop of Gurk in 1653, and bishop of Trento in 1659. After the death of his brother Ferdinand Karl, Sigmund became the Archduke of the Tyrol. Sigmund renouced all of his ecclesiastical posts in 1665 and contemplated marriage but died before he had any male children. He was the last male issue of the Tyrolean line of Leopold V, and with his death Tyrol finally passed to Austria."
	style = 3 
	date = { day = 25 month = june year = 1665 }
	deathdate = { day = 25 month = june year = 1685 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Submit to Vienna's will (GAME OVER)"
		command = { type = trigger which = 900023 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Keep Tyrolean autonomy"
		command = { type = stability value = -5 } 
	}
}


event = {
	id = 900023
	random = no
	country = HAB
	name = "Extinction of the Tyrolean Habsburgs"
	desc = "Sigmund Franz was the second son of Leopold V and Claudia von Medici. He became bishop of Augsburg without consecration in 1646, bishop of Gurk in 1653, and bishop of Trento in 1659. After the death of his brother Ferdinand Karl, Sigmund became the Archduke of the Tyrol. Sigmund renouced all of his ecclesiastical posts in 1665 and contemplated marriage but died before he had any male children. He was the last male issue of the Tyrolean line of Leopold V, and with his death Tyrol finally passed to Austria."
	style = 3 
	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = inherit which = U19 }
	}
}

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Originally posted by Mad King James
My research shows Styria was directly ruled by the Austrian administration from the 12th century. I think the rulership by a seperate branch of the family had less autonomy than you thought.

Tirol wasn't permanently annexed into Austria until 1665, but after 1493 appears to have pretty much become a vassal state appendage to the crown, and perhaps shouldn't even be independent.

Not really, you're not the only one doing research :D
Take a look at the 1911 encyclopedia article on the Hapsburgs
Styria and Tyrol indeed fell to the Hapsburgs in the 14th century, however there was a partition in 1365:
Albert’s four sons two also left no male heirs, but the remaining two, Albert III. and Leopold III., were responsible for a division of the family which is of some importance. By virtue of a partition made upon their brother Rudolph’s death in 1365 Albert and his descendants ruled over Austria, while Leopold and his sons took Styria, Carinthia and Tirol, Alsace remaining undivided as heretofore.
Until 1490 there was an Albertine and a Leopoldine branch of the Hapsburg dynasty. The branch's possessions were divided once again in 1386 when Leopold's one son Friedrich got Tyrol and Alsace and his other son Ernst became rulers of Styria and Carinthia, hence there were three separate branches in 1419.
The Albertine, Austrian branch was extinct with the death of Ladislaus Postumus in 1457. Emperor Friedrich of the Styrian Leopoldine branch had already taken over rule of Austria and the Empire in 1440 while his brother Albert kept Styria. Then in 1457 a conflict between Friedrich and Albert over succession to the Archduchy of Austria emerged in which Albert prevailed militarily (he occupied almost all of Austria) but in the end Friedrich retained everything including Styria and Carinthia because of his brother's premature death in 1463. In game terms, the events could be designed both ways, either letting Styria inherit Austria in 1457, representing the conflict with revolts and changing Styria's country tag to Austria or, which I prefer because it lets Austria survive, having Austria inherit Styria in 1463 with Austria representing Friedrich from 1440-1463 and Styria Albert.
The Tyrolian Leopoldines remained relatively unaffected by these struggles and pursued their own policy, struggling against Helvetia, Venice and Burgundy in the 15th century. When it became evident that Sigismund of Tyrol would die childlessly and that he preferred the Bavarian Wittelsbachs as heirs to his relatives in Austria (which demonstrates quite well how independent Tyrol was from family interests), Friedrich and his son Maximilian stepped in to defend their claim and forced Sigismund to abdicate in 1490. Tyrol became part of the Austrian Archdukes' hereditary lands (thus no independent vassal); appreciating Tyrol's loyalty, Emperor Maximilian granted quite a special status to it by the Tyrolian Landlibell in 1511, however it definitely remained Austrian.
Both Styria and Tyrol became independent again by the Ferdinandeische Hausordnung, the partition of the Austrian Hapsburg possessions that Fate described. Styria was definitely united with Austria by the accession of Ferdinand of Styria to the Empire and the Archduchy of Austria in 1619. As you said, Tyrol finally became subject to Vienna again in 1665 when the last autonomous Hapsburg Duke of Tyrol, Sigismund Franz, died and Emperor Leopold succeeded him.
 
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The oldest son/heir/member of the house traditionally held a vague suzerainty over the other branches. So Styria, Tyrol, etc. werent exactly "independent" after their acquisitions. Here's a pretty good page that covers each of the "House Laws of the Habsburgs": http://www.heraldica.org/topics/royalty/ps1713.htm#intro