3.0 How will we build Intel without Espionage?

[The Founder]

According to the information I found, Espionage is not part of the Basegame but in fact a DLC Feature?

Sources:

Stellaris: Nemesis on Steam

Nemesis is an expansion to Stellaris in which you will be able to determine the fate of a destabilizing galaxy. Adding espionage tools, a path to power as the Galactic Custodian - or the Menace option to become the crisis - Nemesis gives you the most powerful tools ever available in Stellaris.

store.steampowered.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1379449899687804941

But as you showed it, the Intel System will Require Espioange to aquire any meaningfull data in the absence of a diplomatic Treaty (aka friendly relations).
What about Spy Networks? Will at least their ability to gather intel be part of the Free Patch? Or will be we perpetually blind to anyone we can not make a deal with?

 

[A2ch0n]

The intel part of espionage is part of the free update. Only the advanced forms of operations are paid features. In addition you'll gain intel by diplomacy (pacts of any kind, GC, and so on).

 

[GOLANX]

The intel part of espionage is part of the free update. Only the advanced forms of operations are paid features. In addition you'll gain intel by diplomacy (pacts of any kind, GC, and so on).

This is what I was expecting but the devs never explicitly said anything about it, they could have been more clear about it and when I first saw the video I was hoping they would say something about espionage. I was Especially worried since I created a rework around that system

Criminal Heritage rework

I wanted to express my views on how criminal Heritage would be reworked, some of these may already be coming in 3.0. First criminal Heritage relies heavily on the espionage system, similar to the way void dwellers gain habitats if you don't have...

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[A2ch0n]

This is what I was expecting but the devs never explicitly said anything about it, they could have been more clear about it and when I first saw the video I was hoping they would say something about espionage. I was Especially worried since I created a rework around that system

I think it was said in one f the Streams if i remember correct. I've checked the DD's 194 (intel), 196 (Redacted/Espionage), 197 (Operations&Assets) and 198 (Provocations) and i didn't found it in written form. But i'm absolutely sure someone said that the base system with collecting intel is in the free patch and everything else is in Nemesis. So there is only one of the Streams left (or i'm blind and just skipped it while reading).

 

[The Founder]

I think it was said in one f the Streams if i remember correct. I've checked the DD's 194 (intel), 196 (Redacted/Espionage), 197 (Operations&Assets) and 198 (Provocations) and i didn't found it in written form. But i'm absolutely sure someone said that the base system with collecting intel is in the free patch and everything else is in Nemesis. So there is only one of the Streams left (or i'm blind and just skipped it while reading).

This release has bee full of poor communication it seems.
Did the Communication and Stream coordinator for Stellaris or Paradox as a whole fell ill?

 

[A2ch0n]

This release has bee full of poor communication it seems.
Did the Communication and Stream coordinator for Stellaris or Paradox as a whole fell ill?

From my point of view was the communication far better than last time with federations. Maybe some things have been missed out (at least in written form), but that happen sometimes and is no real problem. The patchnotes aren't even released yet and the DD's are just an overview. Everything we saw until now was work in progress and subject to change, so i would suggest waiting until the patchnotes release. Sure, some things haven't changed to the better side but it's upon us to bring constuctive criticism for improvements in the future. Frustration will not change anything. If this information really need a confirmation before release, make a post and ask a dev for clarification

 

[The Founder]

From my point of view was the communication far better than last time with federations. Maybe some things have been missed out (at least in written form), but that happen sometimes and is no real problem. The patchnotes aren't even released yet and the DD's are just an overview.

The twitch timeline for this month lists events that clearly did not happen (like the Streams monday and tuesday).
Meanwhile I had to complain about the past timeline not mentioning the last 2 Streams (at least).