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Speaking of which... what ever happened to him? Was he lost when Beleriand sunk?
Or does he make an appearance in your mod?
Depending on which canon you follow, Celeborn could be one. In Tolkien's latest writings Celeborn was born as Teleporno, a lord of the Teleri in Valinor, and he and Galadriel left with his ship just prior to the Kinslaying (and the eventual ban). She was still caught under the ban, but in her case because of her pride and refusal to return to Valinor when basically ordered to do so.
Of course this is not included in Guy Kay's version of the Silm. as JRRT never actually rewrote the narrative to reflect that.
Canonically Maglor roams the beaches of the world, singing of his loss (or, if you're cynical, in the idle hope to one day reclaim the Silmaril he threw into the ocean). His death or maybe journey to Valinor is never recorded so likely at least until the Fourth Age he was roaming Middle-Earth's shores (hence JimThePocket's description of him =D).
Yep, and for flavour purpose, some events with Magor should happens under conditions !
Cool. The only surviving Son of Fëanor deserves some recognition 
Given that Fëanor is the likely inventor of the original Palantírs, Maglor is possibly the only person not in the line of the Númenórean kings who could theoretically claim their use...
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Great work on the mod from what I see in your development posts by the way! I will be checking it out once it is released. I am a huge Middle-Earth fan.
Given that Fëanor is the likely inventor of the original Palantírs, Maglor is possibly the only person not in the line of the Númenórean kings who could theoretically claim their use...
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Great work on the mod from what I see in your development posts by the way! I will be checking it out once it is released. I am a huge Middle-Earth fan.
Ah, forgot about Fornost (there is too much damn canon!). Then yes, Glorfindel should be a super general as well.
Thinking about it, are you going to implement the duel mod that AGOT uses?
Huh, it's definitely not in my copy, which is a fairly old edition. I've only ever seen him described as originally being a Sindar of Doriath.
I'll try to adapt it tomorrow, and i want to thanks hère Jordarkelf who authorize us to use his works!
Yeah it's in the History of Middle-earth, not in the published Silm..
Glad you can use it in this mod
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There are quite a few versions of the story of Galadriel and Celeborn. There is the one in the published Silmarillion, and the rest in 'Unfinished Tales'.
Whatever Else, Celeborn is or isn't, he is bloody Old so seeing as he's lived through the War of Wrath, the Fall of Ost-In-Edhil and setting up and ensuring the peace of Lorien, all of this prior to his commanding the Razing of Dol Goldur, we can assume he is most likely a very competent general.
What's Elrond's dynasty going to be? Technically I guess he should be House of Hador, unless Tuor matri-married like a chump.
If we're talking age then Cirdan wins. He's one of the original elves if memory serves.
If we're talking age then Cirdan wins. He's one of the original elves if memory serves.
Correct... definitely the oldest Elf we know of who was still in Middle-earth in the Third Age. His beard alone attests to his age (F you Peter Jackson for showing him shaven!). He was one of the leaders of the Teleri during the Great March, so he's at least one or two generations older than Galadriel and Celeborn.
Since he has silver hair he is likely a member of the Telerin royal house and therefore a relative of Olwë and Thingol (Elwë) but exactly what family link he has to them is never clarified.
Why is the CoA for the House of Isildur the White Tree on blue? Wouldn't it make more sense to have Elendil's banner with (possibly) a moon replacing the crown?
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Actually, that question has been previously covered ages ago in the thread, Elrond is part of the House of Eärendil, to which the House of Elros and its Cadet Lines belong aswell.
And I wasn't making an Age comparison, simply stating the fact that Celeborn is still Freaking Old, he should be somewhere around 8-9000, Compared to Cirdan's 11+
Edit: or well it was covered which House, Tolkien had him in. Not infact which House, the Team will have him in.
2nd Edit: or well technically Elrond is Master of the House of Eärendil, which is a Cadet House to the Houses of Elu Thingol and Turgon respectively and also to the House of Hador.
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Part II - The Fellowship Goes south
Year 11363
Last we left Aragorn, he had just had Narsil reforged into Anduril, Flame of the West. The council, however, is divided and cannot decide on what should
be done with the ring:
Now this part is mostly for those who want a "sandbox" mode, if you have enough prestige, you can force the council to do one of 3 options via decision:
1. Throw the Ring into the sea
2. Take Frodo to your realm for safe-keeping (ie, imprison)
3. Start the Quest for Mt.Doom
If no one forces the decision, some months pass, and Elrond gets his way and the Ring is sent into Mordor.
While Aragorn waits, his steward/regent back home carries out his orders to keep pacifying the nearby wilderness - but at the same time, it appears the hillmen of the north are stirring. If they unite under one ruler and colonize their own wilderness lands, they may be a threat some day. For now, however, as long as they fight amongst themselves, that is no concern of the Dunedain.
While at Rivendell, Aragorn also hears that Saruman has betrayed them, and taken the fords of Isen from Rohan in a great battle, in preparation for his invasion of those lands.
Likewise, Gondor is under attack from Mordor, who is seeking to claim the east side of Osgiliath in preparation for the coming great war. While Gondor has put up resistance for some months, it seems that their defenses have finally been breached:
11365
While his Regent back in Esteldin still does his best to follow Aragorn's command to pacify the nearby wilderness, Elrond finally convinces the council that the Ring must be destroyed in early 11365 and the fellowship sets out. You'll also note on the province income tab, that wilderness provinces give no income - so while they're easy enough to conquer for those who have the casus belli to do so (not elves, dwarves, and some races of men) they are quite useless until they are colonised. Be that as it may - The Fellowship, counting all the characters from the books who are on a "pilgrimage/quest" and ruled by a regent if they have lands, reaches the mines of Moria:
Gandalf saves them from the Balrog:
They reach the woods of Lothlorien, where they are taken under the protection of Galadriel and the Galadhrim. At this point, in some cases, Galadriel can accept Frodo's offer to take the Ring, and then the fellowship disbands. Aragorn, however, has come this far, and will still go south towards Rohan and Gondor and join the coming wars.
In this playthrough, Galadriel did not take the ring, so while sailing down river along the Anduin, Saruman's Uruks attack:
Boromir now has the chance to take the ring from Frodo, and if he succeeds, he will run towards Minas Tirith and bring his father a "mighty gift". Or well, he'll hang on to it, just for a little while to make a trial of his plans, but Denethor won't mind that since he trusts Boromir! In this case, Frodo got away, and Boromir was "lucky" enough only to be badly maimed in his fight against the Uruks instead of being killed. He caught several arrows to the knee, however, so his adventuring days are probably over. Aragorn leaves the maimed Boromir to hobble back to Minas Tirith alone, and quickly goes after the Uruks who captured Pippin and Merry:
Year 11363
Last we left Aragorn, he had just had Narsil reforged into Anduril, Flame of the West. The council, however, is divided and cannot decide on what should
be done with the ring:
Now this part is mostly for those who want a "sandbox" mode, if you have enough prestige, you can force the council to do one of 3 options via decision:
1. Throw the Ring into the sea
2. Take Frodo to your realm for safe-keeping (ie, imprison)
3. Start the Quest for Mt.Doom
If no one forces the decision, some months pass, and Elrond gets his way and the Ring is sent into Mordor.
While Aragorn waits, his steward/regent back home carries out his orders to keep pacifying the nearby wilderness - but at the same time, it appears the hillmen of the north are stirring. If they unite under one ruler and colonize their own wilderness lands, they may be a threat some day. For now, however, as long as they fight amongst themselves, that is no concern of the Dunedain.
While at Rivendell, Aragorn also hears that Saruman has betrayed them, and taken the fords of Isen from Rohan in a great battle, in preparation for his invasion of those lands.
Likewise, Gondor is under attack from Mordor, who is seeking to claim the east side of Osgiliath in preparation for the coming great war. While Gondor has put up resistance for some months, it seems that their defenses have finally been breached:
11365
While his Regent back in Esteldin still does his best to follow Aragorn's command to pacify the nearby wilderness, Elrond finally convinces the council that the Ring must be destroyed in early 11365 and the fellowship sets out. You'll also note on the province income tab, that wilderness provinces give no income - so while they're easy enough to conquer for those who have the casus belli to do so (not elves, dwarves, and some races of men) they are quite useless until they are colonised. Be that as it may - The Fellowship, counting all the characters from the books who are on a "pilgrimage/quest" and ruled by a regent if they have lands, reaches the mines of Moria:
Gandalf saves them from the Balrog:
They reach the woods of Lothlorien, where they are taken under the protection of Galadriel and the Galadhrim. At this point, in some cases, Galadriel can accept Frodo's offer to take the Ring, and then the fellowship disbands. Aragorn, however, has come this far, and will still go south towards Rohan and Gondor and join the coming wars.
In this playthrough, Galadriel did not take the ring, so while sailing down river along the Anduin, Saruman's Uruks attack:
Boromir now has the chance to take the ring from Frodo, and if he succeeds, he will run towards Minas Tirith and bring his father a "mighty gift". Or well, he'll hang on to it, just for a little while to make a trial of his plans, but Denethor won't mind that since he trusts Boromir! In this case, Frodo got away, and Boromir was "lucky" enough only to be badly maimed in his fight against the Uruks instead of being killed. He caught several arrows to the knee, however, so his adventuring days are probably over. Aragorn leaves the maimed Boromir to hobble back to Minas Tirith alone, and quickly goes after the Uruks who captured Pippin and Merry:
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Eomer directs them towards Fangorn Forest:
Leaving Merry and Pippin behind, who at this stage set in motion a chain of events with the Ents, Gandalf leads them to Edoras:
Year 11366
Saruman has put a spell on Theoden (rendering him "incapable", and with huge opinion maluses, so Rohan cannot raise its full potential of troops to resist him). Gandalf will get that sorted shortly, however:
Saruman, realising that the Rohirrim may now rally against him, launches his attack. Aragorn joins, and is given command of a cavalry regiment to aid them in the war against the Uruk legions.
The Ents and Huorns of Fangorn also join in to attack down Saruman's forces, and with x20 and x15 combat modifiers, this force is enough to turn the tide (we can't do a Helms Deep because we can't script CK II armies to go to specific places, so to represent the 1000 Huorns that appeared there, we just have them roaming across the Riddermark killing Uruks instead (though I suspect we'll have to change this for balance reasons, they're a bit overpowered):
Saruman's armies stream across the border, while the Rohirrim muster their troops:
Year 11367
While Rohan musters its full strength in the East before marching on Saruman (who has foolishly split his forces), suddenly the beacons of Minas Tirith are lit! It is the year 11367, and the Great Assault upon Gondor is being unleashed! (It is possible to resolve the situation with Saruman/Rohan before the attack on Gondor, but that involves using your prestige to influence the council to send the ring towards mt.doom immediately, and not wait a year and a half before deciding to do so. The attack on Rohan by Saruman is triggered by Gandalf's healing of the King (or the year being 11367), so it's possible to come to Rohan already in 11364 and have won the war by 11367).
Aragorn must leave Rohan, and help Gondor before it is utterly destroyed:
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War and destruction in Rohan. Invasions of Gondor from the south by the Corsairs, and from the East by hordes of orcs, easterlings, haradrim, and variags of Khand. Fire and death in the north - Dale and Erebor attacked by Rhun, the goblins of Gundabad stream forth from their lairs to attack the Beornings, and the elves of Mirkwood and Lorien face their own great assault from the enemy. Will Aragorn become King? Will the Ring be destroyed? Or will Sauron win, and cover the land in darkness?
Leaving Merry and Pippin behind, who at this stage set in motion a chain of events with the Ents, Gandalf leads them to Edoras:
Year 11366
Saruman has put a spell on Theoden (rendering him "incapable", and with huge opinion maluses, so Rohan cannot raise its full potential of troops to resist him). Gandalf will get that sorted shortly, however:
Saruman, realising that the Rohirrim may now rally against him, launches his attack. Aragorn joins, and is given command of a cavalry regiment to aid them in the war against the Uruk legions.
The Ents and Huorns of Fangorn also join in to attack down Saruman's forces, and with x20 and x15 combat modifiers, this force is enough to turn the tide (we can't do a Helms Deep because we can't script CK II armies to go to specific places, so to represent the 1000 Huorns that appeared there, we just have them roaming across the Riddermark killing Uruks instead (though I suspect we'll have to change this for balance reasons, they're a bit overpowered):
Saruman's armies stream across the border, while the Rohirrim muster their troops:
Year 11367
While Rohan musters its full strength in the East before marching on Saruman (who has foolishly split his forces), suddenly the beacons of Minas Tirith are lit! It is the year 11367, and the Great Assault upon Gondor is being unleashed! (It is possible to resolve the situation with Saruman/Rohan before the attack on Gondor, but that involves using your prestige to influence the council to send the ring towards mt.doom immediately, and not wait a year and a half before deciding to do so. The attack on Rohan by Saruman is triggered by Gandalf's healing of the King (or the year being 11367), so it's possible to come to Rohan already in 11364 and have won the war by 11367).
Aragorn must leave Rohan, and help Gondor before it is utterly destroyed:
Up next:
War and destruction in Rohan. Invasions of Gondor from the south by the Corsairs, and from the East by hordes of orcs, easterlings, haradrim, and variags of Khand. Fire and death in the north - Dale and Erebor attacked by Rhun, the goblins of Gundabad stream forth from their lairs to attack the Beornings, and the elves of Mirkwood and Lorien face their own great assault from the enemy. Will Aragorn become King? Will the Ring be destroyed? Or will Sauron win, and cover the land in darkness?
nice preview,but i hope that theoden will have another crown/diadem like in lotr2 .
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