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HoI4 Dev Diary - Poland Focus Tree Rework Part 2/2

Hello folks and welcome back to the Poland dev-diary extravaganza! This week, I am going to continue covering the changes coming to Poland in 1.11 Barbarossa and the unannounced DLC.Today we’ll be covering the DLC content.
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So, I’m going to start here with something a bunch of you predicted last week; you can indeed play as the Peasants’ Strike! A Poland with ambitions to restore democracy or embrace the communist revolution must first build an organized peasant militia from the rabble of disorganized farmers!
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No matter how many or few states join you in the strike, the rebellious state will be in a delicate balancing act between democrats and socialists. Your first step towards revolution is to sway the Front Morges to take up the peasant’s cause, the Morges being an alliance of political parties supported by a select few Polish generals including Sikorski.
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Each focus you do in this initial block will add 5 support to either communism or democracy, with a total of 50% or more being needed for one to assert dominance over the other and take control of the government.
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Similar to the Spanish Civil War, the Peasants’ Strike will be on a tight schedule, taking up to a year before the revolution happens. Poland will at first be able to add agricultural states to the strike, but by expanding the strike to factory workers, Poland will also be able to bring states from Poland’s industrial heartland into the revolution.
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Along with contesting for popular support, gaining military support will be vital for the movement. Using decisions, certain field marshals and generals will be swayed to your cause and gain the “Peasant Sympathiser” trait, ensuring that they will join your side when the war begins.
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Poland will begin with socialist politician Stanisław Mikołajczyk as country leader, but those who wish to see the return of Wincenty Witos will be able to bring him back to leadership via event.
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Once the civil war is won, Poland will be in a vulnerable state. Recuperating manpower and resources after a civil war will place Poland in a precarious position, so some concessions and outreach for foreign assistance may be needed.
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A communist Poland will have two options: they may be bold and elect an anti-Stalinist candidate as Chairman, or they may elect the Soviet-aligned Władysław Gomułka. However, aligning with the Soviets will come at the cost of ceding Eastern Poland, but will unlock a few focuses for dealing with the USSR.

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With democracy, Poland may take advantage of the Front Morges’ ambitions for closer relations with the French and create the Morges Pact, a sort-of Poland-led Little Entente. Going down this route will allow Poland access to the Between the Seas branch we talked about last week.

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Anti-Soviet communists will be able to denounce both Capitalism and Fascism, diplomatically isolating this people’s republic, but allowing for new expansion options and military bonuses against the empires of this world. In doing so, they will gain a powerful attack and defence bonus against major powers.
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Both democrats and anti-Soviet communists will also be able to declare the destruction of fascism a greater cause than the spread of socialism and align themselves with the British Empire. Doing so will allow Poland to renew her interests in colonialism and attempt to purchase colonies from Allied powers. By officially recognising the Maritime and Colonial League, Poland can purchase Madagascar, Palestine, and more. If any of your purchases are successful, Poland will have somewhere to build their forces in exile, should the front back home fail.

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No matter which option you pick, either conquering or building alliances with the Baltic States will allow you to create a new kind of Commonwealth: the Commonwealth of Socialist Republics.

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Moving on to the next branch, we have the Regency Council: Poland’s attempt to “restore” the monarchy. The Act of the Fifth of November was the promise of the Central Powers to release a Kingdom of Poland from the occupied territories of the Russian Empire, but the Regency Council of the newly formed Kingdom of Poland failed to crown a King before Józef Piłsudski declared the Second Polish Republic.

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With the Regency Council assembled, Poland will be able to choose from one of three claimants, each with their own complete political path. There were countless claimants and candidates for the Polish throne so it was impossible for me to make content for them all, so we have: The Hohenzollern, The Commonwealth Claimant, and the Cossack-King to choose from!

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The Commonwealth Claimant is perhaps the most obvious: Poland’s preferred candidate for King was Friedrich Christian. Christian was preferred due to Poland’s long connection with the houses of Saxony, and with a claimant so supported by the Poles, you are able to claim the throne of Lithuania without the need for warfare.

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Through decisions, Poland can trend monarchist sentiment up in Lithuania, and when it reaches high enough, they may either enter a civil war or peacefully take over the government. When either case has happened, Poland can annex the Lithuanian Kingdom and begin integrating the industries of their two nations and preparing for war with the Soviets and Germans: restoring the old borders of the Commonwealth and then some!

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Poland and Romania enjoyed close relations at the start of HoI’s timeframe, and with the throne of Poland empty, Poland may throw herself into the complex mess of Romanian politics by electing a Romanian King.

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With King Michael on the throne of Poland, the Kingdoms will be able to unite under the right circumstances. Either by Polish interference or by Romania completing “King Michael’s Coup”, Romania and Poland will be united, bringing their armies together and becoming a powerful wall between the Axis and the Comintern.

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This Intermarium nation may seek Balkan Domination and a restoration of Poland-Hungary, or (as with the Commonwealth) it may seek to maintain its alignment with the Allies.

Finally, we have the most unlikely candidate for the throne: Pavel Bermondt-Avalov.
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A warlord, a cossack, and a Georgian Prince, Pavel led an interesting life of conquest and warfare. In the interwar period, Pavel and his Bermontian host invaded Lithuania and Latvia for reasons historians are still unsure of, but his ambition for Baltic domination makes him the ideal candidate for militarizing the Polish state into action and dominating the Baltics and Czechoslovakia.
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When done conquering the Baltics, Pavel will be able to either turn his militarized Polish Kingdom against the Germans and asser Poland’s claims in Silesia and Pomerania or, as a National Socialist, Pavel may wish to seek alignment with the Germans, which brings us on to the fascist branch.
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Poland was home to a multitude of fascist and nationalist movements: the most notable of which are the Endecja (or National Democracy) and the Falanga. The Sanation historically made dealings with both of these groups, and as such, if you want either Endecja or Falanga to take control, you must collaborate with the Sanation until you are able to supplant them.

When either Endecja or Falanga have taken over the government, they will have a choice to either stand firm with Polish nationalism or make concessions to the Germans and attempt to seek an alliance.
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Aligning with the Germans will not place you on equal grounds, and it is not as easy as it once was. Germany will refuse to ally with Poland unless Danzig and Poznan are surrendered and Poland becomes a German subject. Unlike Czechoslovakia though, the Poles will be able to break their shackles and tear the Reich apart from within.

With either Pavel, Piasecki, or Dmowski in control, Poland will be presented with a ladder of focuses enabling them to either gain powerful bonuses from the Germans or plot with the Underground State to overthrow their current masters.
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Going for independence will allow Poland to switch sides and stab Germany in the back, whereas remaining loyal will enable Poland to gain some cores in the USSR in a sort-of reverse Yalta Conference.
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However, a Falanga or Endecja that does not bow to the Germans will be able to lean into the Polish Catholic identity and form the Falangist International: a faction devoted to the perseverance of Falangist ideals.
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Once the Spanish Civil War is done with, if either the Carlists, Nationalists, or Falangists come out on top, Poland will be able to bring them into their own faction and from there, they will be able to expand that faction to other nations where Falangism was present such as: Mexico, the Netherlands, and much of Latin America.

They will have access to decisions to boost fascism in those nations, and with a certain percentage achieved, those nations will be invited to join the Falangist International. These focuses invite multiple nations at once, so the faction can grow very large very quickly.
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Similar to the Sanation path, the Polish fascists must choose between allying with Lithuania or attempting to reclaim the legacy of the Commonwealth, but choose wisely. Without allying Lithuania, this Poland will be unable to progress down the Between the Seas path, severely limiting their faction’s ability to expand.

That’s about it for the political paths, so I’ll wrap this one up by talking about a feature we haven’t touched in quite some time: Governments in Exile.
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Unlike France and the Netherlands, Poland does not by default have a vast colonial empire to which they may retreat when things fall apart back home, so Poland will be entirely reliant on the support and goodwill of their allies and the network of resistance fighters in the Polish Underground State.
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In exile, the Polish government went through a number of Prime Ministers and Presidents before landing on something the Allies were satisfied with. If Poland is following a historical route and is exiled in a Democratic nation like Britain or France, they will demand the resignation of the Sanation leaders, and from there, Poland may pick from one of three new leaders, each with a unique personality enabling them to gain manpower while in exile.

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On top of that, they will gain access to Irena Anders as a political adviser, granting more legitimacy, stability, and exiled manpower.

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In the exile focus tree, Poland can gain a number of offmap factories and dockyards, and bonuses to their ace generation and an increase in special forces cap. Poland will never muster a major army while exiled, but with these bonuses, Poland will still be able to keep fighting on with a small but specialised force.

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Owners of La Resistance will gain access to a slew of agency bonuses including an increase to their spy capacity, free agency upgrades via focus, and the new Warsaw Uprising operation.

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Completing the operation will trigger the Warsaw Uprising sooner than the game mechanics usually allow. With 50% resistance or higher in Polish states, the uprising can be started, but time this well as you can only complete this operation once. A well-timed uprising can shatter the German army and leave them short on supply as they attempt Operation Barbarossa.

Poland was also vital to assisting in decrypting the enigma machine, so they also gain access to the Mastermind Codebreaker advisor: Marian Rejewski.

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The old Cyclometer and Bombe focuses have been moved into the espionage branch, but I noted that without any territory left, a bonus to atomic research was fairly useless to Poland. So, when the Atomic Research focus is done, Poland gains an offmap nuclear reactor that will give roughly one nuke per year... Try not to think too hard about it.

There were a lot of interesting alternate-history scenarios for Poland to explore and new possibilities came up during my research and implementation. Though I didn’t represent everything in game (such as the proposed Japan-Polish alliance), Poland is a treasure-trove of alternate history scenarios if only you can find a way to survive.

That’s all for this week, and that wraps up the two week Poland extravaganza!
 
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Something that may be very relevant for the DLC (for the Soviets, Poland, army in exile, alt-diplomatic routes, etc) and easy to add is to represent that both Poland and the USSR had a big head start on synthetic rubber:

LINK: Polish synthetic rubber in American war efforts, 1941–45

Tsarist Russia had an extensive effort to try and develop its own methods for synthetic rubber pre-WW1. Both Poland and the USSR (who should have lots of rubber production too) would inherit the research. Ignacy Mościcki, being a chemist himself, decided to fund further research on the topic in 1935 and eventually they developed a refinement of the process suitable for practical production. The Germans, Italians, and the United States all had interest in acquiring this technique. In the case of Italy, Poland was funding the development of a synthetic rubber plant in Italy, but cancelled the investment once the war broke out. In the case of the Germans, they wanted to capture the secret, but the plants that produced them managed to be blown up before being captured. After the September campaign, the secret along with several technicians were smuggled out where their knowledge was used to start some limited production in the United States. (LINK see this patent granted in the US).

If you're looking for an incentive for a Kaiser Germany to accept Poland as a diplomatic friend, this could be one such benefit--especially since Germany is often so reliant on synthetic plants in-game.

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Endecja should not have cooperation with Germany routes in my opinion. They were very staunchly anti-German in sentiment and they wanted to incorporate pockets of Polish nationals who lived on the German border.

A better end-game diplomatic branch for Endecja & Falanga might be allowing them to align with Italy's faction instead--both sharing large similarities in philosophy in many areas (though not completely) and a strong Catholic identity. Also a relevant path in giving Italy rubber research.

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Edit: also... rubber from..... POTATOES!!!, ultimate super-weapon
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Something that may be very relevant for the DLC (for the Soviets, Poland, army in exile, alt-diplomatic routes, etc) and easy to add is to represent that both Poland and the USSR had a big head start on synthetic rubber:

Tsarist Russia had an extensive effort to try and develop its own methods for synthetic rubber pre-WW1. Both Poland and the USSR (who should have lots of rubber production too) would inherit the research. Ignacy Mościcki, being a chemist himself, decided to fund further research on the topic in 1935 and eventually they developed a refinement of the process suitable for practical production. The Germans, Italians, and the United States all had interest in acquiring this technique. In the case of Italy, Poland was funding the development of a synthetic rubber plant in Italy, but cancelled the investment once the war broke out. In the case of the Germans, they wanted to capture the secret, but the plants that produced them managed to be blown up before being captured. After the September campaign, the secret along with several technicians were smuggled out where their knowledge was used to start some limited production in the United States.

If you're looking for an incentive for a Kaiser Germany to accept Poland as a diplomatic friend, this could be one such benefit--especially since Germany is often so reliant on synthetic plants in-game.

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Endecja should not have cooperation with Germany routes in my opinion. They were very staunchly anti-German in sentiment and they wanted to incorporate pockets of Polish nationals who lived on the German border.

A better end-game diplomatic branch for Endecja & Falanga might be allowing them to align with Italy's faction instead--both sharing large similarities in philosophy in many areas (though not completely) and a strong Catholic identity. Also a relevant path in giving Italy rubber research.
LMAO imagine them adding anything at all for Italy.
Please, be realistic. They can't add stuff Italy actually had going when they must add stuff for Mexico! Or Spain! And the very belligerent Portugal and Turkey!
Italy having options for the Stresa Front or the Latin Axis? PREPOSTEROUS!
Italy forming an alliance with Poland since it was one of the friendliest nations to the Poles and Italian soldiers even refused to execute Polish prisoners of war at the cost of being gunned down alongside them by the Germans? WHAT NONSENSE!
 
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Im really happy seeing that Meka66 thanked us for the feedback, it means a lot to see that as a community we actually have a say in what is actually happening, this guy is already my favorite Dev Diary writer just because of the humour and recognizing when the community doesn't necessarily agree with something, cheers.
 
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Personally really happy with everything shown so far, can't wait to see what all the extra stuff in the battle plans UI is for.
Excited for the soviet tree!
 
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Please, add the Hapsburg claimant, it would be nicer if he had his own focus path that could interact with Austria-Hungary and all that, but even if this is not possible for whatever reason at least have him share the Commonwealth claimant path, he is a lot more historical than the other the cossack dude and Michael and definitely deserves to be in the game.
This. Also: Would allow for "When the Winged Hussars Arrived" to be added to the soundtrack. Not to mention the coolest focus and achievement in the game. Gigantic missed chance right here for true memes.
 
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Did anyone else notice this map mode change?
Don't really care about ahistorical Poland one way or another, but looking forward to the next DDs now that we're through the ones on Poland, at least :) .
Me too tbh. I couldn't be bothered with vanilla focuses as they were always going to be empty memeing. Give me mechanics, please.
 
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Jesus Christ, Holy Mother of God.
I repeat. This is most ridiculous focus tree and update I have ever seen. I don't know who do historical researches but he should go back to reading.
- Danzing as polish state with debuffs. Seriously? Chinesese Warlords exist, but city which was independent doesn't exist. Eventually can show on as uprising. Yeah, that have sence. And cores for Kashubia? Maybe you should add cores for Lemkowyna, which existed for 3 days? And debuffs, because Poland have embargo. But German-Polish customs war ended in 1934. And Gdynia was big port, so Poland didn't depend on Gdańsk
- Cossak King? Damn, maybe you give possibility to crown Hirohito as High King of Ireland? What does he have to do with Poland at all?
- Wettin as King. Yeah, 3rd May constitution. But where is Karol Olbracht? After the 5th November Act he was consider as future king. Where, is he? Romania? It's have more sense than cossak king, but still is silly. You can add Prince George, duke of Kent and give possibility to create Zapadoslavia (union with Czechoslovakia). And it have sense, because Sikorski had plans connected with duke and Czechoslovakia.
- Maria Koszutska. It's person, which I Poland could be only a Stalin's puppet. And she's died, because of Great Purge.
- Endecja in fascist part of the tree. Damn, another example of mistakes and lacks of historical knowleadge.
- Beck-Ribbentrop Pact in fascist part. I don't know that Beck was member of Endecja or ONR.
- Great Peasant strike. I know that game hasn't many mechanics, but civil war in another country? Seriouslly? I don't even comment flag of this type of Poland.
- Haller under Śmigły command
- Polish-Romanian-Hungarian Union
- the question of minorities doesn't exist
- poor education and bad economic situation omitted
And for all, who say that it's convenient to complain. I created mod called "Between Germany and Russia" and I think, even with italian monarchy part, it is closer to historical accuracy and common sense.
 
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Polskie atomówki na uchodźstwie? O taką Polskę to ja walczyłem xd

But for real, I actually like this alt stuff even the very far fetched parts of it as I think that grand strategies should be quite sanboxy so players can change the world however they want, (I, for instance, like to turn USA into a polish colony via compliance) but that cossack guy is REALLY too much of a alt-history, no connection to Poland at all, he would make more sense in baltic states. He should be, in my opinion, replaced with some Polish noble like Radziwiłł for very polish monarchist Poland playthrough or maybe someone from Piłsudski's family for that memey alt-history feel you propably aimed for by adding Pavel. Also Karl Albrecht Habsburg really sholud be an option, you don't really need to create entire new part of the focus tree but you could just add his portrait and a decision to replace Wettin with Habsburg and maybe even an option to add him as a commander as he had military background? Also I think Ukrainian and Belarusian minorities in Poland should be represented in game even a little by adding a little debuff and maybe a decision to deal with them peacefully or not-so-peacefully perhaps?

However, I do really admire your work overall
 
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Very Pog Tree :D, Also a question: Will this tree be available to users with Poland United and Ready when Barbarossa comes out, or will it be featured with the unnamed DLC? Thanks!
 
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Jesus Christ, Holy Mother of God.
I repeat. This is most ridiculous focus tree and update I have ever seen. I don't know who do historical researches but he should go back to reading.
- Danzing as polish state with debuffs. Seriously? Chinesese Warlords exist, but city which was independent doesn't exist. Eventually can show on as uprising. Yeah, that have sence. And cores for Kashubia? Maybe you should add cores for Lemkowyna, which existed for 3 days? And debuffs, because Poland have embargo. But German-Polish customs war ended in 1934. And Gdynia was big port, so Poland didn't depend on Gdańsk
- Cossak King? Damn, maybe you give possibility to crown Hirohito as High King of Ireland? What does he have to do with Poland at all?
- Wettin as King. Yeah, 3rd May constitution. But where is Karol Olbracht? After the 5th November Act he was consider as future king. Where, is he? Romania? It's have more sense than cossak king, but still is silly. You can add Prince George, duke of Kent and give possibility to create Zapadoslavia (union with Czechoslovakia). And it have sense, because Sikorski had plans connected with duke and Czechoslovakia.
- Maria Koszutska. It's person, which I Poland could be only a Stalin's puppet. And she's died, because of Great Purge.
- Endecja in fascist part of the tree. Damn, another example of mistakes and lacks of historical knowleadge.
- Beck-Ribbentrop Pact in fascist part. I don't know that Beck was member of Endecja or ONR.
- Great Peasant strike. I know that game hasn't many mechanics, but civil war in another country? Seriouslly? I don't even comment flag of this type of Poland.
- Haller under Śmigły command
- Polish-Romanian-Hungarian Union
- the question of minorities doesn't exist
- poor education and bad economic situation omitted
And for all, who say that it's convenient to complain. I created mod called "Between Germany and Russia" and I think, even with italian monarchy part, it is closer to historical accuracy and common sense.

And imagine, everything you mentioned above is in the game that was supposed to be ww2 historical/alt-historical simulator, where the only things that work in "diplomacy" are "volunteers" and "land-lease", where after ~5 years since release peace conferences still do not work, and all of that is in the game that already with all DLCs costed around ~100$ so far. ^^
 
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No matter which option you pick, either conquering or building alliances with the Baltic States will allow you to create a new kind of Commonwealth: the Commonwealth of Socialist Republics.
Are we condemned to Maria Kostuszka as the Polish leader when choosing the way to form the Comonwelth of Socialist Republic? Could you add an option to select a different Polish leader for the Comonwelth of Socialist Republic road?

The second question is whether we have to give up eastern Poland while allying with the USSR?

Will we have the option to keep the border in the east and gain something in the west by cooperating with the USSR?

Could you add the possibility of converting to Communism without civil war ?

Can you add Edward Ochab as a communist minister ? He is a much underestimated figure who had a great influence on the politics of communist Poland and now everyone seems to be deliberately ignoring this man as if he did not exist.

And the last question is whether the communist Comonwetth flag really has to be the Russian flag? The classic Commonweltch flag could not be modernized in place of the eagle and rider by adding a worker and a peasant, for example ? Or, by handing the hammer to the eagle, and instead of a knight to put a peasant with a sickle on a horse. It would be much more thematic than the Russian hammer and sickle flag which is completely out of place with the Commonwelth theme.
 
A nuke per year out of thin air in the "historical" tree. Seems legit.

Now where's that old meme I made about HoI4 a few years back... Ah, here it is.

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Very Pog Tree :D, Also a question: Will this tree be available to users with Poland United and Ready when Barbarossa comes out, or will it be featured with the unnamed DLC? Thanks
It will be mostly free, as said in the previous Dev Diary alt history will be locked behind the DLC, but everything shown in the previous Dev Diary will be free.
 
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