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Hello folks and welcome back to the Poland dev-diary extravaganza! This week, I am going to continue covering the changes coming to Poland in 1.11 Barbarossa and the unannounced DLC.Today we’ll be covering the DLC content.
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So, I’m going to start here with something a bunch of you predicted last week; you can indeed play as the Peasants’ Strike! A Poland with ambitions to restore democracy or embrace the communist revolution must first build an organized peasant militia from the rabble of disorganized farmers!
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No matter how many or few states join you in the strike, the rebellious state will be in a delicate balancing act between democrats and socialists. Your first step towards revolution is to sway the Front Morges to take up the peasant’s cause, the Morges being an alliance of political parties supported by a select few Polish generals including Sikorski.
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Each focus you do in this initial block will add 5 support to either communism or democracy, with a total of 50% or more being needed for one to assert dominance over the other and take control of the government.
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Similar to the Spanish Civil War, the Peasants’ Strike will be on a tight schedule, taking up to a year before the revolution happens. Poland will at first be able to add agricultural states to the strike, but by expanding the strike to factory workers, Poland will also be able to bring states from Poland’s industrial heartland into the revolution.
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Along with contesting for popular support, gaining military support will be vital for the movement. Using decisions, certain field marshals and generals will be swayed to your cause and gain the “Peasant Sympathiser” trait, ensuring that they will join your side when the war begins.
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Poland will begin with socialist politician Stanisław Mikołajczyk as country leader, but those who wish to see the return of Wincenty Witos will be able to bring him back to leadership via event.
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Once the civil war is won, Poland will be in a vulnerable state. Recuperating manpower and resources after a civil war will place Poland in a precarious position, so some concessions and outreach for foreign assistance may be needed.
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A communist Poland will have two options: they may be bold and elect an anti-Stalinist candidate as Chairman, or they may elect the Soviet-aligned Władysław Gomułka. However, aligning with the Soviets will come at the cost of ceding Eastern Poland, but will unlock a few focuses for dealing with the USSR.

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With democracy, Poland may take advantage of the Front Morges’ ambitions for closer relations with the French and create the Morges Pact, a sort-of Poland-led Little Entente. Going down this route will allow Poland access to the Between the Seas branch we talked about last week.

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Anti-Soviet communists will be able to denounce both Capitalism and Fascism, diplomatically isolating this people’s republic, but allowing for new expansion options and military bonuses against the empires of this world. In doing so, they will gain a powerful attack and defence bonus against major powers.
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Both democrats and anti-Soviet communists will also be able to declare the destruction of fascism a greater cause than the spread of socialism and align themselves with the British Empire. Doing so will allow Poland to renew her interests in colonialism and attempt to purchase colonies from Allied powers. By officially recognising the Maritime and Colonial League, Poland can purchase Madagascar, Palestine, and more. If any of your purchases are successful, Poland will have somewhere to build their forces in exile, should the front back home fail.

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No matter which option you pick, either conquering or building alliances with the Baltic States will allow you to create a new kind of Commonwealth: the Commonwealth of Socialist Republics.

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Moving on to the next branch, we have the Regency Council: Poland’s attempt to “restore” the monarchy. The Act of the Fifth of November was the promise of the Central Powers to release a Kingdom of Poland from the occupied territories of the Russian Empire, but the Regency Council of the newly formed Kingdom of Poland failed to crown a King before Józef Piłsudski declared the Second Polish Republic.

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With the Regency Council assembled, Poland will be able to choose from one of three claimants, each with their own complete political path. There were countless claimants and candidates for the Polish throne so it was impossible for me to make content for them all, so we have: The Hohenzollern, The Commonwealth Claimant, and the Cossack-King to choose from!

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The Commonwealth Claimant is perhaps the most obvious: Poland’s preferred candidate for King was Friedrich Christian. Christian was preferred due to Poland’s long connection with the houses of Saxony, and with a claimant so supported by the Poles, you are able to claim the throne of Lithuania without the need for warfare.

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Through decisions, Poland can trend monarchist sentiment up in Lithuania, and when it reaches high enough, they may either enter a civil war or peacefully take over the government. When either case has happened, Poland can annex the Lithuanian Kingdom and begin integrating the industries of their two nations and preparing for war with the Soviets and Germans: restoring the old borders of the Commonwealth and then some!

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Poland and Romania enjoyed close relations at the start of HoI’s timeframe, and with the throne of Poland empty, Poland may throw herself into the complex mess of Romanian politics by electing a Romanian King.

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With King Michael on the throne of Poland, the Kingdoms will be able to unite under the right circumstances. Either by Polish interference or by Romania completing “King Michael’s Coup”, Romania and Poland will be united, bringing their armies together and becoming a powerful wall between the Axis and the Comintern.

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This Intermarium nation may seek Balkan Domination and a restoration of Poland-Hungary, or (as with the Commonwealth) it may seek to maintain its alignment with the Allies.

Finally, we have the most unlikely candidate for the throne: Pavel Bermondt-Avalov.
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A warlord, a cossack, and a Georgian Prince, Pavel led an interesting life of conquest and warfare. In the interwar period, Pavel and his Bermontian host invaded Lithuania and Latvia for reasons historians are still unsure of, but his ambition for Baltic domination makes him the ideal candidate for militarizing the Polish state into action and dominating the Baltics and Czechoslovakia.
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When done conquering the Baltics, Pavel will be able to either turn his militarized Polish Kingdom against the Germans and asser Poland’s claims in Silesia and Pomerania or, as a National Socialist, Pavel may wish to seek alignment with the Germans, which brings us on to the fascist branch.
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Poland was home to a multitude of fascist and nationalist movements: the most notable of which are the Endecja (or National Democracy) and the Falanga. The Sanation historically made dealings with both of these groups, and as such, if you want either Endecja or Falanga to take control, you must collaborate with the Sanation until you are able to supplant them.

When either Endecja or Falanga have taken over the government, they will have a choice to either stand firm with Polish nationalism or make concessions to the Germans and attempt to seek an alliance.
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Aligning with the Germans will not place you on equal grounds, and it is not as easy as it once was. Germany will refuse to ally with Poland unless Danzig and Poznan are surrendered and Poland becomes a German subject. Unlike Czechoslovakia though, the Poles will be able to break their shackles and tear the Reich apart from within.

With either Pavel, Piasecki, or Dmowski in control, Poland will be presented with a ladder of focuses enabling them to either gain powerful bonuses from the Germans or plot with the Underground State to overthrow their current masters.
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Going for independence will allow Poland to switch sides and stab Germany in the back, whereas remaining loyal will enable Poland to gain some cores in the USSR in a sort-of reverse Yalta Conference.
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However, a Falanga or Endecja that does not bow to the Germans will be able to lean into the Polish Catholic identity and form the Falangist International: a faction devoted to the perseverance of Falangist ideals.
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Once the Spanish Civil War is done with, if either the Carlists, Nationalists, or Falangists come out on top, Poland will be able to bring them into their own faction and from there, they will be able to expand that faction to other nations where Falangism was present such as: Mexico, the Netherlands, and much of Latin America.

They will have access to decisions to boost fascism in those nations, and with a certain percentage achieved, those nations will be invited to join the Falangist International. These focuses invite multiple nations at once, so the faction can grow very large very quickly.
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Similar to the Sanation path, the Polish fascists must choose between allying with Lithuania or attempting to reclaim the legacy of the Commonwealth, but choose wisely. Without allying Lithuania, this Poland will be unable to progress down the Between the Seas path, severely limiting their faction’s ability to expand.

That’s about it for the political paths, so I’ll wrap this one up by talking about a feature we haven’t touched in quite some time: Governments in Exile.
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Unlike France and the Netherlands, Poland does not by default have a vast colonial empire to which they may retreat when things fall apart back home, so Poland will be entirely reliant on the support and goodwill of their allies and the network of resistance fighters in the Polish Underground State.
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In exile, the Polish government went through a number of Prime Ministers and Presidents before landing on something the Allies were satisfied with. If Poland is following a historical route and is exiled in a Democratic nation like Britain or France, they will demand the resignation of the Sanation leaders, and from there, Poland may pick from one of three new leaders, each with a unique personality enabling them to gain manpower while in exile.

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On top of that, they will gain access to Irena Anders as a political adviser, granting more legitimacy, stability, and exiled manpower.

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In the exile focus tree, Poland can gain a number of offmap factories and dockyards, and bonuses to their ace generation and an increase in special forces cap. Poland will never muster a major army while exiled, but with these bonuses, Poland will still be able to keep fighting on with a small but specialised force.

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Owners of La Resistance will gain access to a slew of agency bonuses including an increase to their spy capacity, free agency upgrades via focus, and the new Warsaw Uprising operation.

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Completing the operation will trigger the Warsaw Uprising sooner than the game mechanics usually allow. With 50% resistance or higher in Polish states, the uprising can be started, but time this well as you can only complete this operation once. A well-timed uprising can shatter the German army and leave them short on supply as they attempt Operation Barbarossa.

Poland was also vital to assisting in decrypting the enigma machine, so they also gain access to the Mastermind Codebreaker advisor: Marian Rejewski.

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The old Cyclometer and Bombe focuses have been moved into the espionage branch, but I noted that without any territory left, a bonus to atomic research was fairly useless to Poland. So, when the Atomic Research focus is done, Poland gains an offmap nuclear reactor that will give roughly one nuke per year... Try not to think too hard about it.

There were a lot of interesting alternate-history scenarios for Poland to explore and new possibilities came up during my research and implementation. Though I didn’t represent everything in game (such as the proposed Japan-Polish alliance), Poland is a treasure-trove of alternate history scenarios if only you can find a way to survive.

That’s all for this week, and that wraps up the two week Poland extravaganza!
 
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Soo you aint adding Karol Olbracht von Habsburg, the man who was actually polish, was tortured by the gestapo and served the polish army but you are adding a saxon.... wow
Yes, unfortunately I'm only able to make so many different paths for Poland. While the Habsburg would have been an interesting and plausible choice, I went for Friedrich Christian due to him being the Regency Council's preferred candidate.
I've said it before and I'll say it again
> Polish Peasants' Union is both democratic and communist
> more of a libertarian communism with democracy
>(I don't know shit about them, just looking at the post)
> You can even play as them
> Catalonia is raging more or less at the same time in Spain
> in Ukraine there was Free Territory some time ago
> some regions of this uprising do belong to Ukraine
> Greece can turn into a Byzantine goddamn

> anarchist path for Polish Peasants' Union when :oops: :oops:

plz
There's no plans for an anarchist Poland sadly
Memes is what the people want.
Generally we try to avoid meming too hard. We want content to be fun for the alt-histories, but we don't want players to only have silly options.
 
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So the game is just completely divorced from anything resembling reality at this point.... Offmap Nuclear Reactor?
Yeah it's a bit silly on paper, but it's mainly there to represent the work of Polish scientists in the field of nuclear research. It's hard to represent that in a way that the player can engage with, so giving them the odd nuclear weapon to drop on Germany seemed like away to gamify that idea and make it fun.
 
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Romania-Poland forming Poland-Hungary and an adventurer taking control of Poland destroying the Reich, and free nukes that are made in Atlantis when only USA managed to create nukes. Yeah glad to see there is not over the top meme stuff.
Don't be ridiculous. The nukes are made in the shadow realm.
 
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Also please, scrap the offmap nuclear reactor! If you want to represent Polish Scientists working on the nuke, make it a spirit or something. But a reactor is far too powerfull!
Seeing as this comes in the exile branch, an offmap nuclear production is the only way you have any hope of producing a nuke. With the research coming so late and one reactor producing such few nukes, you'll maybe get to drop one or maybe two per game. It's far from overpowered.
 
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Is the "Elect a PSL Leader" focus the demoractic branch of the focus tree of Poland? Because focuses belonging to that branch doesn't look so democratic, instead, it has many communist looking focus icons?
It is, yes. The Democratic and Communist branches share a lot of focuses. While the PSL were not communist, they were Socialist and Mikołajczyk in particular spoke a lot about the Polish peasantry and lower-classes; campaigning in interwar Poland, the exile government, and even the Polish People's Republic.
 
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I agree. Gomułka, who insisted on cooperation of socialists was conflicted with Bierut whose main goal was to bring Red Army to Poland. Eventually Gomułka was arrested in 1951.
Though in HoI4 timeline, "alignment with Soviets" was indeed an intention of Gomułka.
Exactly, that's why I went with Koszutska for the anti-Soviet option. She was openly opposed to Stalinism during HoI's timeframe, being arrested for it in 37.
Where did these flags come from for the Communist Commonwealth? Or the People's Union (not sure on name)?
That would be the Black Madonna. There were pictures from the time of the Peasant's Strike of demonstrators holding banners depicting the Black Madonna. She's a bit of an icon in Poland.
I also don't get it how Poland would become a puppet when allying Germany. Cession of Danzig is no brainer but puppet is too much. Hungary wasn't a puppet despite being allied. Germany only puppeted them when they tried to change sides.
This is more to do with Germany than Poland tbh. Germany had no intention of stopping at Danzig, and despite the efforts of many Polish politicians, generals, and diplomats to pursue friendly relations with Germany, war was inevitable. A Poland that sides with Germany must do so at a cost, or you can of course try to fight them.
 
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I appreciate all of your feedback. Your comments about the offmap nuclear reactor, uniform colours, Pavel, and the Habsburg claimant have been noted. I won't be responding to any further questions about their inclusion, but I appreciate the feedback, so let's not let the thread devolve into being just about that. I shared a lot of other stuff in this diary ;)
 
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Isn't 6 off map factories and 1 nuclear reactor a little bit op as Poland??
Yeah numbers will take some balancing, but basically we don't want the game to be over for Poland when you surrender. Historically the GiE and the underground state were very active after capitulation, so we want it to be less "Oh I capitulated so I lose" moreso capitulation is just the second phase of your campaign.

But, we want Poland to have a small and specialised army and the ability to upgrade their agency so exact numbers for offmap factories and manpower are going to take some tweaking to get just right ;)
 
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The flag wouldn't change at all its just a religious symbol and no one ever wanted to use it for the flag of the country
This is for the civil war part of the focus tree. As a symbol the peasants used, it differentiates them from the existing Polish flag during the civil war.
 
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Many of these foci seem to be tied to major countries having their normal alignments. Do they also account for the different DLC-based paths those nations can take, like a monarchist Germany or a communist Britain?

Because in the past some foreign policy foci didn't, often with weird results.
They do, yes! If Germany goes with the Kaiser, Monarchists will have access to the "Seek an Alliance with the Kaiser" focus which allows them to align with Germany without making concessions.

Similarly, the pro-Allies focuses try to find another democratic major power to ally with if Britain has done something wacky ;)
 
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Is the name Poland-Romania finalized? It bugs me that Hungary doesn't get a mention when it gets integrated. Is there still a possibility for a more inclusive name for the state?

Also speaking of names, it appears that Czechoslovakia continues to go by that name after ceding Slovakia in the image of maximum Poland-Romania, will that continue to be the case?
What you see in the screenshots was achieved with console commands. I'm a filthy cheater.
"Guys, war with Germany is coming. If we lose we face the destruction of our nation yet again. I propose we crown a monarch in order to secure an alliance with another power and make our country more cohesive, giving it a symbol to rally around."

"Great idea! Who should we crown?"

"A German!"
Yes, but enough about British history.
 
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Dmowski was a staunchly anti-german. I can't see him becoming a german puppet. If you want a fascist anti-german path then maybe do an alliance between Poland, Italy and Austria something simillar to the Stresa Front. Everything is better then the Latin America's help for Poland.
You are able to go pro or anti German as either Endecja or Falanga. Both Endecja and Falanga were very much about the Polish Catholic identity, which is why their fascist alternative is a Falangist faction. You only have so much time to convert other countries to Falangism so you're only realistically going to get a handful of countries on other continents onboard with your faction.

Calling PSL socialist is a bit of a stretch. They didn't plan to get rid of private property and they olny planned to nationalise the strategic industrial branches. True they wanted to promote rural cooperatives, but in my opinion it's not enough to call them socialist. Social democrats with socialist elements is much more suiting.
Maybe I should be more clear, they are social-democrat as you can see in the screenshot of the PSL being the Democratic party. "Socialism" is a broad term, I should have been more specific with what I was referring to; PSL is by no means communist.

Stanisław Mikołajczyk being leader of the strike was again preliminary research done early on through Wikipedia https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strajk_chłopski_(1937)
 
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