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The hour of decision is almost here.mans
If your Gort Line survives until Winter, the war with both Germany and the USSR can be won. If not, things will look rather dicey.
If your Gort Line survives until Winter, the war with both Germany and the USSR can be won. If not, things will look rather dicey.
On December of 1941 American AI has a minimal army (some garrisons and cavalry divisions),so its a more than 2 years of French defence before American army will arrive.
Thank you good sir! You read through the whole thing? Daaamn.
The Western front is utter chaos, death everywhere, hard to say what will happen. as @Kurt_Steiner said; These AAWWII Germans seem a bit stuck in the mud here. They used a lot of time to win in Poland, lost the invasion of Norway due to slowness, and now with the slow advance through the low lands. Hard to make sense of it. as previously mentioned; I am running virtual save state. So I don't have to boot up the game. But maybe I HAVE upset the AI by the few boot ups I have done over the course of these 8 months?
Those silly Italians.... and silly us. They jumped the gun, and found the desert empty. I just hope the French pound them to dirt before they can reach Alexandria.
Interesting. I believe Germany has lost the war already. If they take France, they still do not have Norway, and Russia has been ramping up big time in their war with us, they are much stronger than OTL 40's USSR. So they will steamroll Hitler come next year. And then they will steamroll us...
Geniune question here: How would you see us being able to crush the Soviet Union?
When Russia invades Germany it will be quick. Regardless if Hitler secures France. But could USA and Britain win a war against the Soviets? Whiles also battling the Germans, Italians, and Japanese?
Yup, not to mention that we are talking about IRL December 2017 before that declaration of war. A far distant land from here. My questions are, in the order of most urgent:
- How to keep France in the war
- How to keep casualties down
- How to beat Italy/Stop Italy taking Alexandria and Suez Canal
- How to stop USSR crossing in over Turkey/Afghanistan (If the AI is not "contemplating" this, it should, and I might override it for sake of historical realism)
- How to beat the USSR (or stop them, and turn it into a cold war)
- How to stop Japan crossing in over unguarded Burma and India.
many questions, and things are happening FAST now! Every week a new bombshell (no pun intended) is dropped.
How to keep france in the war? Simple, stabilize the front. How? Beet the germans at their own game. You are going to have to encircle and destroy german divisions in the field. This way, the soviet might also come in, and open a second front in poland
Or you could reinforce the line! Reinforce, reinforce and reinforce until the Soviets invade.
Difficult without keeping France in the war.
What does your build queue look like? It would have been best to have put all IC into INF or even MIL at the start of the game.
22 - 29 May '40 - French breakthrough in Italy
"General Maxime Weygand is something of an enigma. He has a famous reputation, crowned by his victory with Pilsudski over the Bolshevik forces in 1920. I have met him on several occasions, most recently early this year in the Middle East, and always found him friendly, quick and receptive, a modest man carrying his fame without affectation or conceit."
- Anthony Eden, 29th May 1940 -
(Army of the Alps, now also known as "Les Tigres des Alpes" in Genoa, Italy. May, 1940)
(London)
It's proper awful out there, chap. The public are so tired and scared of the glooming prospect of another long and bloody war. The Netherlands and Luxembourg have fallen. But perhaps a bliss in disguise, as support for our government is at an all time high. They see now what madness lies behind the German actions. The Russian war has been a harder sell, but it does seem to be one they are willing to buy. All our propaganda explains and put emphasis on Stalin and Hitler having a secret pact. That they carved up Poland together, and waged war on Finland, TOGETHER. Germany has invaded or tried to invade every bloody country in their vicinity. The British man and woman can clearly see that it must be stopped.
Hah! I'm sorry, old boy. I get carried away sometimes. Before you sit down, fetch Ms. Darling, and tell her to bring us some tea. I am feeling a bit under the weather, wouldn't want to waste good Scotch on a numb palate.
It is May 29th and the war is nearing its 9th month.
We are beginning to see Great War like casualty numbers on the front line...
Hah! I'm sorry, old boy. I get carried away sometimes. Before you sit down, fetch Ms. Darling, and tell her to bring us some tea. I am feeling a bit under the weather, wouldn't want to waste good Scotch on a numb palate.
It is May 29th and the war is nearing its 9th month.
We are beginning to see Great War like casualty numbers on the front line...
BLOCKADE:
The Royal Fleet this week sunk 21 merchant ships. I thought I had the tonnage written up here somewhere.... Ah, nevermind! Safe to say that if we keep this up the Italians will have severe problems with their supply efficiency.
RETREAT IN AFRICA:
Bad news in Africa though, old boy. As Egyptian and Iraqi infantry retreated from the horrible Battle of Sidi Barrani. The British Raj have been instrumental in quelling any dissent among the soldiers. But as I said last week; The kettle that is Jerusalem is about to blow. Iraq, Egypt, even the British Indians. None of these people want to be under the British rule. After the loss of this battle I am surprised we're even in control of the retreat. If the Italians only knew how easily they could turn those forces against us. They went with the opposite strategy. One that united the Iraqis and Egyptians, not for their love for us, but their hatred for a vicious, hateful enemy. Egypt and Iraq has lost 12 000 fighting men to the bullet or chains since the battle started. The Italians lost 9 000. We are on a retreat through the desert now.
MASSIVE CASUALTIES IN THE LOWLANDS:
RAF AND ALLIED BOMBERS SENT TO SLOW DOWN ADVANCING FORCES:
TORN TO PIECES:
I am to put some numbers in front of you. You won't understand what they truly mean. How could any of us?
How could we truly understand the utter destruction we are talking about.
RAF And the Commonwealth lost 184 bombers (including 10 French), and 231 fighters. A whopping 415 aircrafts lost in the last 7 days! We kept pressing our boys to the limit. Bogging down the advancing force as much and as often as we could. The Luftwaffe also must have taken a stunning amount of punishment. 209 bombers and 100 fighters were registered shot down by our boys. Hugh Dowding is furious about the whole situation. He lost so many good men this week. And the state of the 4 fighter wings in Paris? NO go for the next 2 weeks.
RAF And the Commonwealth lost 184 bombers (including 10 French), and 231 fighters. A whopping 415 aircrafts lost in the last 7 days! We kept pressing our boys to the limit. Bogging down the advancing force as much and as often as we could. The Luftwaffe also must have taken a stunning amount of punishment. 209 bombers and 100 fighters were registered shot down by our boys. Hugh Dowding is furious about the whole situation. He lost so many good men this week. And the state of the 4 fighter wings in Paris? NO go for the next 2 weeks.
AUXILIARY FLEET II FINISH FERRYING FORCES FROM ÅLESUND, NORWAY:
Winston, Gort, and Ironside are now working on bolstering up everything for Operation Bernard. The talk is of ungodly amount of supplies and equipment in order to get them ready for the next 3 weeks of German punishment.
The next 3 weeks will dictate the tide of this war...
The next 3 weeks will dictate the tide of this war...
AUXILIARY FLEET III ON ITS WAY TO ALEXANDRIA WITH BRITISH RAJ REINFORCEMENTS:
FRANCE BREAKS THROUGH ENEMY DEFENCES IN NORTHERN ITALY:
13 300 Italian soldiers.
5 Destroyers (DD)
And 1 Heavy cruiser stationed at Genoa.
5 Destroyers (DD)
And 1 Heavy cruiser stationed at Genoa.
The Tigers should be given a bloody medal and a piece of French soil large enough to build a farm on if you ask me.
Mussolini must be regretting his foolish decision to declare war on us.
Mussolini must be regretting his foolish decision to declare war on us.
FAILURE TO INSTIGATE REVOLT IN CENTRAL ITALY:
HOME FLEET CRUSHES SMALL SOVIET FORCE:
We still need his magic, though. The Royal navy is the only thing capable of preventing the Soviet threat from pounding down on us. The French soldiers are loosing to the Germans, but winning in Italy. Can we stop the German spring offensive with Operation Bernard, or must we gamble by pushing North trough Trento as soon as possible?
So many questions. It can be hard to sleep at night. I worry about our boys out there. The last time something like this happened the world was forever changed. Empires in ashes. Are we destined to relive the sins of our fathers?
Until next time, officer.
England Expects.
So many questions. It can be hard to sleep at night. I worry about our boys out there. The last time something like this happened the world was forever changed. Empires in ashes. Are we destined to relive the sins of our fathers?
Until next time, officer.
England Expects.
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The French will take Rome again, and then the Germans will kneel before the King.
Then we will give them some nice democracy or even a monarchy again. Also the Ruskies, can't for get them. Give them freedom as a democracy as Tsar will still stir up desent in the region.
Then we will give them some nice democracy or even a monarchy again. Also the Ruskies, can't for get them. Give them freedom as a democracy as Tsar will still stir up desent in the region.
Are not any ANZAC forces available to be send to Egypt?
Damn, I miss the Southafricans right now...
Damn, I miss the Southafricans right now...
My word! If the French succeed in their Italian offensive, they might have won us the war! Or, at the very least, prevented the Hun from winning the war. It seems the spirit of Napoleon lives on in France, old boy!
Italy beaten down by the French,Germans are held back barely in Belgium and the body count is rising.The hype train is on the go!!!
Waiting for more.
Waiting for more.
I agree; South Africa sits on its hands and watches as the fate of millions waits in the balance! Their forces could be making all of the difference on either of our periphery front lines. If I were a violent person, I would suggest a punitive expedition against the German-collaborationist government; I am thankful I am for peace, always.
I've been eagerly following since the beginning, and now the moment is upon us; I am excited to see how this will turn out.
Were there major encirclements in the Netherlands? It seems that Belgium hasn't been the site of major Allied encirclements yet, thankfully. &&hopefully a quick dust-off of the Italians will trigger their historical capitulation about 3 years early. We can only hope. If all it does is divert German divisions from France, then something has been accomplished in Italy. As for Egypt... well, lets not talk about Egypt.
Wow things are heating up! Looks like its basically a race to see if Germany can break through the Gort/Maginot lines before France reaches Austria.
Personally, I can't see anything but a Soviet steamroll in France if they don't make peace with the Entente sometime during their invasion of Germany. Both sides are going to be so drained that the red flag will wave over Lisbon unless some agreement is reached. And if France falls... I doubt there's any getting it back. The Red Army is gearing up, and whoever is still Axis by the time it reaches them will become socialist.
Personally, I can't see anything but a Soviet steamroll in France if they don't make peace with the Entente sometime during their invasion of Germany. Both sides are going to be so drained that the red flag will wave over Lisbon unless some agreement is reached. And if France falls... I doubt there's any getting it back. The Red Army is gearing up, and whoever is still Axis by the time it reaches them will become socialist.
Only faithful servants of the crown get to kneel. War criminals get to hang.
Hopefully Rome can be captured quickly. And I agree. This could ruin any plans the Germans have for a successful Manstein offensive. However, by invading the boot we risk exposing our flank in the alps to a counter-attack from the Germans.
I'll look into it. There might be 1 or 2 divisions in the far reaches of the Commonwealth that I can send to Egypt in a matter of months. But the Westernfront is locked down. Whatever we have there now will stay there. I have a feeling we can really halt the German advances here.
I don't know how fast Italy can reach Alexandria. My hope is a full month. That's the time France has to cause enough panic in Italy that they start pulling out. Or at least halt their attack. We are bringing in the bottom of the barrel soldiers to maintain control of partisans and to delay attacking forces where we can.
Don't remind me! I see that smug little Hertzog down in the South of Africa. With plenty of divisions, just loafing about...
Thank you
those comments mean a lot. It's rather interesting, now that we are so invested in these armies. I spent months IRL ferrying those bloody Canadians! I can't recommend "realtime" playing enough! There has been a couple divisions destroyed. 150 000 men lost (IIRC) on the French side total, same with Netherlands and Belgium. But the largest French armies are intact. I hope they can gradually fight, and retreat, fight and retreat, until they cross the Gort line. And then we will take it from there. The Blitzkrieg is taking its sweet time though. I smell a trench war...
I bet Hitler is furious at the fumbling military buffoonery of Mussolini. To be honest though, none of them are getting the job done.
Choooo! Choooo!
Yes, I can't see a Nazi Germany surviving this catastrophe. If they fail to capture France, and Austria comes under attack. We might see a coup orchestrated by SIS and Wilhelm Canaris.
If Germany does not have a revolution, Russia will invade.
If it has a British supported revolution, Russia will invade.
If Germany however has a worker's revolution... They might be allied
We could secure the alps with 30 mountaineers. That would leave Turkey and the lowlands to deal with. But that is a far distant future.
Germany's future now hangs in the balance, and if they don't pull out something good come 1941. A war weary Germany has no interest in going back to the western front of 1917.
@MacGowan Is that really a thing in vanilla, a revolution in Germany if they fail to capture France?