Europa Universalis IV - Development Diary 4th of April 2023 - Achievements

[FreeSoc]

the Inti achievement in particular is a great distillation of how annoying the company's fawning for MP players is. Oh someone at the Grandest LAN did something ludicrous? Genuinely, sincerely, why should anyone in the wider playerbase care?

 

[Kapi96]

Yay achievements!

Don't really like the meme achievements. The Portugal and Ming ones sound good though. Got to say I'm disappointed there are no "complete mission tree" achievements too. Really enjoyed getting those with Austria, Great Britain and Spain and it would've been nice to have gotten some more.

 

[RustyCanuck]

You like references huh? Here’s one.

These are without a doubt the worst batch of achievements I have ever seen.

 

[001rens001]

the Inti achievement in particular is a great distillation of how annoying the company's fawning for MP players is. Oh someone at the Grandest LAN did something ludicrous? Genuinely, sincerely, why should anyone in the wider playerbase care?

I find this one really weird and specific too, it's kind of odd that they have us basically recreating someone's grandest lan campaign for an achievement. It's just such an "unnatural" way of playing. Not the worst thing in the world, but just a very odd achievement choice.

 

[Xetfield]

Honestly, these achievements are some of the worst I've seen since I started following the game in 2017

 

[FreeSoc]

More stupid meme achievements instead of any actually fun or interesting ones? Surely not!

 

[Astalanian]

I'm so disappointed. This was the patch to make enjoyable achievements, because it focuses on the biggest and most played and easy nations. Who in its right mind wants to do the Frankfurt one ? I can see the pain just by reading it, oh, i will do it, i mostly play for achievements. But will it be fun ? Or enjoyable, i can tell right now that it won't. And i'm tired of those starts with a tiny nation and go half a world conquest for a pun, it's terrible, especially since you allowed AI to dev provinces. My last one was Australia-Hungary, it was so funny to invade the Commonwealth who had the Hungarian provinces, defending them by a 500K army and being allied to Spain an Portugal with armies as large as them. So cool. But understand me, i'm not against hard achievements, i think every player must have his fun, even if it's like 0.5% of the playerbase, but can't you make once again some to explore those new mission trees like you did with Austria and Spain ? To use the mechanics, to build strong navies with those new unique ships ? Achievements focused on playing tall and with a lot of diplomacy to simply go with the runs of most of the players ? I know France has a lot of achievements already, but i do believe every players of EU4 have played them at least once, and a lot of us likes to go back to it, couldn't you please us with a new one ? Those are not the worst i've seen, but i believe those changes to major countries will make some of the old ones even harder. I think right now half of them are only for masochists, it could have been good to add some wich are reachable for the average player.

 

[Mindel]

Mehmet's Ambition
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Starting as The Ottomans, own or have Core Eyalets own all the provinces required to form the Roman Empire before 1500.

Do you want to prove to everyone who is the true Successor of the Roman Empire? Make the Conqueror proud by establishing yourself as the true Roman Emperor Sultan.
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If we're going to add this achievement, then we should at least adjust the provinces required to form Rome to accord better with Roman history. Egypt and North Africa were much more important to ancient Rome than Mesopotamia or Britain ever were.

Which, incidentally, would dovetail with this achievement anyway, since the Egypt would be one of the main Ottoman Eyalets in any case.

 

[DiNardo1910]

Meh, these look way too hard for the average player. I wish achievements would be more reasonable, and less aimed at the super min-maxers. This is disappointing

 

[Marquoz]

Honestly, these achievements are some of the worst I've seen since I started following the game in 2017

I'm not a fan, either. Most of them require enormous blobbing, which gets really tedious. And the Ottoman one seems impossible without resorting to the kinds of exploits that I loathe.

 

[Sayndre27]

Since France is getting the biggest mission tree in the game (84 missions), shouldn't they get an achievement to complete it? Kinda like Austria, Spain and GB have their own.

 

[Gott-Kroprinz]

Come on lads, no achievements for mediocre players? I mean yea tough achievments are fun but cmon you need some mid difficulty ones as well

 

[Xetfield]

Most of them are exploity, memey or/and immersion-breaking. Like, I'm a fan of One Piece, and the achievement from Lions of the North with the reference to it was good, but this is too ridiculous and seems generally too out of place with the rest of achievements. Same can be said for most of these new achievements too.

The previous achievement DD had just two "respectable disagrees" (https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...development-diary-9th-of-august-2022.1538228/) and this already have 17, mind you

 

[Astalanian]

After a good night of sleep, i realised that i have more to say. And i'm frustrated, because it looks like Paradox Tinto lost track of things. This list of achievements starts with an incredibly hard one, and something like a private joke, a reference for you guys. We love you, you're doing great work and we are encline to allow the fun if it weren't that difficult. Nobody cares about that reference. This is terrible. You have to undesrtand that for most of the experienced players, achievements are a way to put a goal on a campaign. And right now, at this very minute, before the new batch, there is a LOT of achievements, and that's just the beginning, a lot of those achievements require a knowledge of the game, some skill and veterancy that are beyond most of the users and don't forget it, it requires time, so much time. I'll use myself as an exemple, i've played the game for more than four thousand hours, i have 322 achievements so 93% of them. I have left on the list something like : "The third way" and "An unlikely candidate". You can do both as Mzab. And to be honnest, i'm quite certain they will become harder because of the upgrade for Spain, Portugal and Ottomans. And i'm sure i'll hate this run, because it'll need like fifty restarts and a prayer to the Rngod to be on the right tracks, and something like a hundred hours. And there's a lot of horrible achievements like that, i've done them, i didn't enjoy most of them. You don't have to make more of them, we already have ways to burn our time with incredibly hard runs. Not a lot of players have as much time as i do to play this game, and if they have some, i'm sure they'll prefer to use it on an Ottoman run rather than on an Hisn Kayfa one. With this extension, i've said it, you have the opportunity to make good achievements focused on the most loved and played nations. You can make us play our favourite nations till 1821 with pleasure and a smile on our faces. You decided to make something called "Victorian three" wich requires to play an absolutely uninteresting, no mission tree, nobody gives a damn nation to tech 32, but won't make an achievement to finish the French mission tree ? Seriously ? I've read all the comments, everybody seems disappointed. Why achievements must absolutely be difficult ? Final thing, nine achievements. That's very low, you have everything wrong, you could have made fifty achievements, as long as they were focused on big nations, and with a reachable goal, everybody would have loved it. Those achievements would have given us purpose and an excuse to play the big ones, because that's everybody's guilty pleasure. Right now you have failed us. Can you please rectify the shot before the launch ?

 

[papapyro]

Not the best bunch of achievements, but not the worst either. Lions of the North had some pretty good ones that actually got you to experience the new content, and only had one stupid meme achievement. These ones thankfully aren't just stupid puns, but at the same time I don't think they fit with the new content as well as the LotN ones did.

 

[nitr0gue14]

Why is Ming the target for Copium Wars? Like I get it, its a meme achievement, but why not just have it be "Start as a Manchu Tag - > Form Qing - > Own All of England"? You know, considering the Qing were the ones who actually fought the Opium Wars...?

Very weird.

 

[Mindel]

Wouldn't it make sense to make Copium Wars be achievable by Qing as well?

 

[Franconian]

Stardust Crusaders
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As Japan have the Land of the Christian Sun reform while Palestine and Cairo are Christian.

"Oh, you're approaching me? Instead of running away, you're coming straight to me?”​

 

[20 yards of linen_1526]

I have to be honest: I'm really looking forward to this DLC, but as someone who mostly plays to get achievements these are mostly pretty disappointing. Too many random memes. I was hoping for a few more along the lines of Golden Century, AEIOU, Anglophile, Mewar Never Changes. Maybe like Magnificence (complete the Ottomans mission tree); The Rising Sun (complete the Japan mission tree); Hermit Kingdom (complete the Korea mission tree); Here Comes the Sun King (complete the France mission tree).

Another idea:
Estado da India (as Portugal, fully own India and Indonesia and divert the majority of their trade to the Cape of Good Hope trade node)