EU4 - Development Diary - 19th of May 2020

[GeneralPetrov]

Lmao only on the Paradox forums will you find people complaining about a lack of achievements, in a game that already has 295 achievements.

Not saying I wouldn't mind more achievements too (especially achievements like The First Toungoo Empire and Where the heart is), but still.

 

[SVPPKILLERv2]

I'm still going to keep pushing for more Scandinavian missions and dynamic provinces like the diamond mine in Golconda

 

[Ursul]

That's it? Don't get me wrong, I love the new achievements, for the most part they are interesting, but only 15? As a point of comparison, Dharma added 20 new achievements and Cradle of Civilisation 22.
And we were promised new achievements for the custom nation but I guess that just like giving them more feature that got lost on the road.
I'm even willing to bet that none of the 3 not country specific achievement (Holiest Empire, God Tier, Hegemnoy) are even possible to obtain with a custom nation.

 

[EarlKonrad]

To answer some comments:

- Yes, some players only play for achievements.

- For any achievements hunter, this list is underwhelming and disappointing (just 15...).

Previous direction of EU4 understood the mindset and love of some EU4 players for achievements. Not the end of the world, it is just sad to see a step back on this.

Yup. I have 1,3K hours in EU4 and they only thing I do, and ever did, is achievement hunt. To me this list is extremely disappointing. Not only there are very few achievements, but I also don't see the point in hunting most of them.

 

[andry18]

I don't get the Spaghetti Western achievement...why Bologna? Both Sergio Leone and Ennio Morricone are/were (RIP Sergio) Romans...

 

[RMS Oceanic]

All these achievents look interesting and fun, except this one:



It's yet another achievemnet centered around forming Jerusalem by x. We already have Good King Rene and King of Jerusalem. Isn't it too much?

I didn't see anything about having to form Jerusalem to get this achievement. It's one you can double up with King of Jerusalem, but you don't have to.

 

[PeaceMK]

As one of the comments stated above, we still don't fully know about the french vassal system.

Achievement dev diary probably implies that the gameplay-content is fully shown, so im very confused

 

[EpicDivinity]

I would have liked to see an achievement for Brittany since they are getting new missions. Something like "Greater Brittany" where you have to own all of Britain and France and have a colonial nation. Also, if this is going to be the last big expansion like many think, I would like the devs to add more achievements on a frequent basis. I personally like basing my runs on achievements, so adding a few new ones with a decent challenge factor would go a long way.

 

[Stronghold]

I don't get why so many of you complain that there aren't enough achievements, or that they aren't good enough.
I always hope that the devs spend their time on the game itself and not on the achievements.

An hour spent on bugfixing or writing content is better than an hour spent on brainstorming ideas for achievements.

 

[Twoflower]

While I value your opinion to dislike achievements (they often replace real replayability in games and I hate this, too) I don't think this is how EU4 dev works or should work. I guess achievements are kind of fast content even so also it is no mayor resource. But mostly: EU4 supports multiple ways to play. Roleplay. Tall. World conquest. Achievements.

They are a way to support a type of play (kind of like win conditions in multiplayer are) where the objective and also starting condition changes from game to game. I can totally feel this. It also incorporates a different type of difficulty. Not by giving the AI some additional changes to be hostile or haver better ruler but just by the hardness of start to target. This playstyle needs support as any other (and I therefor hope the new state mechanic supports wide play better that the current corruption). Only think I miss kind of are achievements to tallm play (I think venice has one).

My problem with achievements is that their mere existence has in the past been an argument against changes to the game:
- against changes to discourage blobbing because there are achievements requiring world conquest
- the "One Faith" achievement has been used as an argument against changes that made conversion harder
- there will quite probably be someone complain about the (badly needed) changes to expulsion of minorities because of the "You get a new home, and you get a new home" achievement

And, in my opinion perhaps the worst offender, is the "Core-Fu" achievement. It evidently is based not on history, but on a rather silly pun, it has the rather random requirement of revoking five cores, and it has explicitly been used as an argument by the devs against removing Corfu as an independent vassal of Venice in 1444, although there is precious little historical reason for Corfu being independent at that point. Paradox have finally budged in 1.30 and given Corfu to Venice, but still, this is perhaps the main reason why I have a problem with achievements.

 

[Tomatenfisch]

A Development Diary is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when it means to.

But yes, I'm impatiently waiting too.

 

[Mindel]

Isn't Mary of Lotharingia a bit too cheap to get as stated? You could just rename any future female ruler to Marie.

It should be easy to avoid this by setting a flag for the "correct" Mary of Burgundy during the Burgundian inheritance event.

 

[IndigoRage]

Any idea when we'll get to see the unit models?

 

[Gumcel]

Isn't Mary of Lotharingia a bit too cheap to get as stated? You could just rename any future female ruler to Marie.

It should be easy to avoid this by setting a flag for the "correct" Mary of Burgundy during the Burgundian inheritance event.

Would you prefer it if you had to get lucky with the event for an achievement?

 

[TheStrategicMonster]

My personal favourites are the Mulhouse one,the Cilli one,The Kingdom of God,and the Bologna one






Especially Mulhouse and God

 

[wkscrombie]

So nothing for the Hussites? Sad to hear that.

 

[Wegenbartho]

Because that's the point of the achievements. The forced pun ones often have some weird and challenging non-WC goal.
And Bavaria having to give Bremen the Werder province in Africa is kind of genius, sadly it won't be as easy as in 1.29 when the AI was allowed to purchase TC provinces as a non-colonizer and thus giving an easier entry point.

 

[Winston_Churchill]

A few to many meme achievements for me, I prefer more historical ones but it's not terrible. I was really hoping for a Swabia related one, perhaps including good old Frederick Barbarossa.

 

[SirGregMac]

I'm excited for the update, and the first thing i'm gonna say is: I wonder if the devs were making a nod and joke to Bob's Burgers Spaghetti Western references, are spaghetti westerns more of a European thing? I'd never heard of them up until I saw that episode :[.

Spaghetti Westerns are a thing from the 60s and 70s, made famous by Sergio Leone's "Dollars" trilogy staring Clint Eastwood.

 

[Twoflower]

Achievements are a matter of taste.
I personally think they are the worst thing to have been introduced to the Europa Universalis franchise (yes, worse than expulsion of minorities ) because they create an expectation of the game and its mechanics that couldn't be any further from what I like about it. Therefore I am very glad for any developing second not spent on creating achievements. But that is just my two cents (and this is not supposed to disparage anybody that happens to enjoy achievements).