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I have a list of Finnish ministers coming up, only pictures are still to be done. Question though, what ideologies should I give to the many "professional" (non-political) ministers Finland has had during the timeperiod?

I wasn't sure... thats interesting considering they were elected.
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I would consider the difference between SD and LWR to be more in their attitude towards the economy rather than in the way they got to power.
 
Mean Bolshevik said:
I have a list of Finnish ministers coming up, only pictures are still to be done. Question though, what ideologies should I give to the many "professional" (non-political) ministers Finland has had during the timeperiod?


I would consider the difference between SD and LWR to be more in their attitude towards the economy rather than in the way they got to power.
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The Egyptian minister are already in-game and Naseer and his cabinet is already LWR. It fits better because Egypt had relatively good relations with Yugoslavia, another (in game terms) LWR country.

EDIT: About the minister list: remember that the minister of armament is now the minister of defence and the minister of security is the minister of interior.
 
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Ok to keep the things clarified, here's a list of countries with ministers implemented (however some lists are incompleted and they would need much more ministers)

HOS --> Head of State
HOG --> Head of Government
FM --> Foreign Minister
MA --> Minister of Armament (Defence Minister)
MS --> Minister of Security (Home Minister)
HMI --> Head of military intelligence
CS --> Chief of Staff
CA --> Chief of Army
CN --> Chief of Navy
CAA --> Chief of Air Force

(The post after the asterisk are already done for that country)
Check the country tags thread to know the tag for the user defined nations.

Code: 
[COLOR=red][B][SIZE=3]Countries with ministers list[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
-[B][I]India[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS 
-[B][I]Argentina[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA (MA minister incomplete)
-[B][I]Norway[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA
-[B][I]People's Hungarian republic[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS
-[B][I]Hungarian Republic[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MS;MA;HMI
-[B][I]Pakistan[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]USSR[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;HMI;MA;MS;CS;CA;CN;CAA --> As always, replacements are welcome.
-[B][I]Uruguay[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Democratic Republic of Austria[/B][/I] *HOS
-[B][I]Greece[/B][/I] *HOS
-[B][I]Republic of Austria[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA
-[B][I]Egypt[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM
-[B][I]Panamá[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]People's republic of China[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS;HMI
-[B][I]Cambodia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Australia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM
-[B][I]Thailand[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Republic of Vietnam[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Taiwan (Republic of China)[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Democratic Republic of Vietnam[/B][/I] *HOS;*HOG
-[B][I]Yugoslavia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA
-[B][I]Luxembourg[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM
-[B][I]Liberia[/B][/I] *HOS
-[B][I]Mongolia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Libya[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Republic of the Seychelles[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Eritrea[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Puerto Rico[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Ethiopia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM
-[B][I]Cuba[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]People's republic of Korea[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Saudi Arabia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM
-[B][I]United Kingdom[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA (incomplete MA list)
-[B][I]USA[/B][/I] HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS;HMI;CS;CA;CN;CAA (although some replacements would be very useful)
-[B][I]Armenia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Albania[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS
-[B][I]Democratic German Republic[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS;CS
-[B][I]Federal German Republic[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS
-[B][I]Romania[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS
-[B][I]Bulgaria[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS
-[B][I]Poland[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS
-[B][I]Estonia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Czechoslovakia[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS;
-[B][I]Afghanistan[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG
-[B][I]Algeria[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM
-[B][I]France[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS;HMI;CS;CA;CN;CAA (Always if you know some guy who could serve as a replacement, don't hesitate and include it)
-[B][I]Finland[/B][/I] *HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS;HMI;CS;CAA (Idle Status until it is fixed)
-[B][I]Israel[/B][/I] **HOS;HOG;FM;MA;MS;HMI;CS;CA;CN;CAA (As always some replacements would be nice)

That's all if you don't see a country in the list it means that is not done.
If you want to make a list or whatever with ministers, please post it here to avoid making the same work twice.
 
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Finnish ministers. CA (no direct equal) and CN missing. Non-political ministers were given SL as ideology.
Code: 
29001;Head of State;Juho K. Paasikivi;46;SC;Autocratic Charmer;High;unknown;x
29002;Head of State;Urho Kekkonen;56;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29003;Head of State;Mauno Koivisto;82;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29004;Head of State;Martti Ahtisaari;94;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29005;Head of Government;Karl August Fagerholm;48;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29006;Head of Government;Urho Kekkonen;43;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29007;Head of Government;Vieno Johannes Sukselainen;57;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29008;Head of Government;Reino Kuuskoski;58;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29009;Head of Government;Martti Miettunen;61;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29010;Head of Government;Ahti Karjalainen;62;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29011;Head of Government;Reino Ragnar Lehto;63;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29012;Head of Government;Johannes Virolainen;64;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29013;Head of Government;Rafael Paasio;66;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29014;Head of Government;Mauno Koivisto;68;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29015;Head of Government;Teuvo Aura;70;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29016;Head of Government;Kalevi Sorsa;72;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29017;Head of Government;Keijo Liinamaa;75;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29018;Head of Government;Harri Holkeri;87;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29019;Head of Government;Esko Aho;91;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29020;Foreign Minister;Urho Kekkonen;54;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29021;Foreign Minister;Johannes Virolainen;54;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29022;Foreign Minister;Ralf Törngren;56;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Very High;unknown;x
29023;Foreign Minister;Paavo Hynninen;57;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29024;Foreign Minister;Karl August Fagerholm;58;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29025;Foreign Minister;Vieno Johannes Sukselainen;61;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29026;Foreign Minister;Ahti Karjalainen;61;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29027;Foreign Minister;Veli Merikoski;62;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29028;Foreign Minister;Jaakko Hallama;62;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29029;Foreign Minister;Väinö Leskinen;70;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29030;Foreign Minister;Olavi J. Mattila;71;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29031;Foreign Minister;Kalevi Sorsa;72;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29032;Foreign Minister;Keijo Korhonen;76;ST;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
29033;Foreign Minister;Paavo Väyrynen;77;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
29034;Foreign Minister;Pär Stenbäck;82;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29035;Foreign Minister;Pertti Paasio;89;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29036;Foreign Minister;Heikki Haavisto;93;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29037;Minister of Armament;Emil Skog;54;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29038;Minister of Armament;Atte Pakkanen;57;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29039;Minister of Armament;Pekka Malinen;57;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Very High;unknown;x
29040;Minister of Armament;Kalle Lehmus;57;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29041;Minister of Armament;Lars Björkenheim;58;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29042;Minister of Armament;Toivo Wiherheimo;58;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29043;Minister of Armament;Leo Häppölä;59;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29044;Minister of Armament;Arvo Pentti;62;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29045;Minister of Armament;Kaarlo Leinonen;63;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29046;Minister of Armament;Sulo Suorttanen;66;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29047;Minister of Armament;Kristian Gestrin;70;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29048;Minister of Armament;Sulo Hostila;72;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29049;Minister of Armament;Carl-Olaf Homén;74;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
29050;Minister of Armament;Erkki Huurtamo;75;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
29051;Minister of Armament;Ingvar Melin;75;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29052;Minister of Armament;Seppo Westerlund;76;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29053;Minister of Armament;Taisto Tähkämaa;77;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29054;Minister of Armament;Lasse Äikäs;79;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29055;Minister of Armament;Juhani Saukkonen;82;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29056;Minister of Armament;Veikko Pihlajamäki;83;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29057;Minister of Armament;Ole Norrback;87;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29058;Minister of Armament;Elisabeth Rehn;90;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29059;Minister of Security;Väinö Leskinen;54;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Very High;unknown;x
29060;Minister of Security;Valto Käkelä;55;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29061;Minister of Security;Vilho Väyrynen;56;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29062;Minister of Security;Teuvo Aura;57;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29063;Minister of Security;Urho Kiukas;57;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29064;Minister of Security;Harras Kyttä;57;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29065;Minister of Security;Atte Pakkanen;58;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29066;Minister of Security;Eino Palovesi;59;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29067;Minister of Security;Eemil Luukka;60;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29068;Minister of Security;Eeli Erkkilä;62;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29069;Minister of Security;Arno Hannus;63;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
29070;Minister of Security;Niilo Ryhtä;63;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
29071;Minister of Security;Antero Väyrynen;67;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29072;Minister of Security;Teemu Hiltunen;70;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29073;Minister of Security;Artturi Jämsén;71;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29074;Minister of Security;Martti Viitanen;66;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29075;Minister of Security;Heikki Tuominen;71;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29076;Minister of Security;Heikki Koski;75;SL;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29077;Minister of Security;Paavo Tiilikainen;75;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29078;Minister of Security;Eino Uusitalo;71;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29079;Minister of Security;Matti Ahde;82;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29080;Minister of Security;Jarmo Rantanen;87;SD;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29081;Minister of Security;Mauri Pekkarinen;91;ML;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29082;Head of Military Intelligence;Armas Alhava;29;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29083;Head of Military Intelligence;Arvo Pentti;72;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29084;Head of Military Intelligence;Seppo Tiitinen;78;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29085;Head of Military Intelligence;Eero Kekomäki;90;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29086;Chief of Staff;Kaarlo Aleksander Heiskanen;53;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
29087;Chief of Staff;Jaakko Sakari Simelius;59;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29088;Chief of Staff;Yrjö Ilmari Keinonen;65;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
29089;Chief of Staff;Kaarlo Olavi Leinonen;69;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29090;Chief of Staff;Lauri Sutela;74;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29091;Chief of Staff;Jaakko Valtanen;83;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29092;Chief of Staff;Jan Klenberg;90;ML;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29093;Chief of Staff;Gustav Hägglund;94;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29094;Chief of Air Force;Reino Artola;52;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29095;Chief of Air Force;Olavi Seeve;58;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29096;Chief of Air Force;Reino Turkki;64;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29097;Chief of Air Force;Eero Salmela;69;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29098;Chief of Air Force;Rauno Meriö;75;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
29099;Chief of Air Force;Pertti Jokinen;87;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
29100;Chief of Air Force;Heikki Nikunen;91;SC;Undistinguished Suit;Very High;unknown;x
 
^Nice one but if you want that list to be included, you must contribute with the pics (not necessary all of them, if you can't find a pic just leave it unknown as it is now), when you have redone the list with the pics i will include them.

BTW if a minister has no ideology it is possible to assign them "NA" as ideology (meaning not available)
 
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Updated minister list with the pictures:
http://rapidshare.com/files/66964182/finland.zip.html
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Nice minister list and nice pics i've included them into the game.

A suggestion for the next time: If you can not find any guy to fit a post (like the chief of army or chief of navy in your list) just type Blue/Red/Black shadow and fit it, this way we avoid some CTDs ok?)

BTW i've compiled a complete Israel Minister list.
I post it here to hear any suggestion to personality, ideology...etc
Code: 
ISR;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x
559001;Head of State;Yitzhak Ben-Zvi;52;SD;Stern Imperialist;High;Ben-Zvi;x
559002;Head of State;Kadish Luz;63;SD;Insignificant Layman;High;luz_kadish;x
559003;Head of State;Zalman Shazar;63;SL;Weary Stiffneck;High;Shazar;x
559004;Head of State;Ephraim Katzir;73;SL;Barking Buffoon;High;katzir;x
559005;Head of State;Yitzhak Navon;78;SL;Benevolent Gentleman;High;navon;x
559006;Head of State;Haim Herzog;83;SL;Weary Stiffneck;High;herzog;x
559007;Head of State;Ezer Weizman;93;SL;Weary Stiffneck;High;weizman;x
559008;Head of Government;Moshe Sharett;53;SD;Silent Workhorse;High;sharett;x
559009;Head of Government;David Ben-Gurion;55;SD;Flamboyant Tough Guy;High;Gurion;x
559010;Head of Government;Levi Eshkol;63;SD;Ambitious Union Boss;High;eshkol;x
559011;Head of Government;Yigal Allon;69;SL;Corporate Suit;High;allon;x
559012;Head of Government;Golda Meir;69;SL;Flamboyant Tough Guy;High;meir;x
559013;Head of Government;Yitzhak Rabin;74;SL;Naive Optimist;High;Yitzhak;x
559014;Head of Government;Shimon Peres;77;SL;Smiling Oilman;High;peres;x
559015;Head of Government;Menahem Begin;77;SC;Silent Workhorse;High;menahem;x
559016;Head of Government;Yitzhak Shamir;83;SC;Smiling Oilman;High;Shamir;x
559017;Foreign Minister;Moshe Sharett;48;SD;Biased Intellectual;High;sharett;x
559018;Foreign Minister;Golda Meir;55;SD;The Cloak N Dagger Schemer;High;meir;x
559019;Foreign Minister;Abba Eban;66;SD;Apologetic Clerk;High;eban;x
559020;Foreign Minister;Yigal Allon;74;SD;Great Compromiser;High;allon;x
559021;Foreign Minister;Moshe Dayan;77;SC;General Staffer;High;dayan;x
559022;Foreign Minister;Menahem Begin;79;SC;Iron-fisted Brute;High;menahem;x
559023;Foreign Minister;Yitzhak Shamir;80;SC;Great Compromiser;High;Shamir;x
559024;Foreign Minister;Shimon Peres;86;SL;Apologetic Clerk;High;peres;x
559025;Foreign Minister;Moshe Arens;86;SC;Biased Intellectual;High;arens;x
559026;Foreign Minister;David Levy;90;SC;Biased Intellectual;High;levy;x
559027;Foreign Minister;Yossi Beilin;95;SL;Great Compromiser;High;beilin;x
559028;Foreign Minister;Ehud Barak;95;SL;Great Compromiser;High;barak;x
559029;Minister of Armament;Pinhas Lavon;54;SD;Laissez-Faire Capitalist;High;Lavon;x
559030;Minister of Armament;David Ben-Gurion;55;SD;Administrative Genius;High;Gurion;x
559031;Minister of Armament;Levi Eshkol;63;SD;Resource Industrialist;High;eshkol;x
559032;Minister of Armament;Moshe Dayan;67;SD;Military Entrepreneur;High;dayan;x
559033;Minister of Armament;Ezer Weizman;77;SC;Theoretical Scientist;High;weizman;x
559034;Minister of Armament;Menahem Begin;80;SC;Laissez-Faire Capitalist;High;menahem;x
559035;Minister of Armament;Ariel Sharon;81;SC;Corrupt Kleptocrat;High;Sharon;x
559036;Minister of Armament;Moshe Arens;83;SC;Administrative Genius;High;arens;x
559037;Minister of Armament;Yitzhak Rabin;84;SL;Infantry Proponent;High;Yitzhak;x
559038;Minister of Armament;Yitzhak Shamir;90;SC;Air Superiority Proponent;High;Shamir;x
559039;Minister of Armament;Shimon Peres;95;SL;Administrative Genius;High;peres;x
559040;Minister of Security;Israel Rokach;52;SC;Silent Lawyer;High;rokach;x
559041;Minister of Security;Moshe Haim Shapira;55;SC;Crime Fighter;High;Shapira;x
559042;Minister of Security;Israel Bar-Yehuda;55;SL;Prince of Terror;High;baryehuda;x
559043;Minister of Security;Yosef Burg;70;SC;Man of the People;High;Burg;x
559044;Minister of Security;Shlomo Hillel;74;SL;Efficient Sociopath;High;hilel;x
559045;Minister of Security;Shimon Peres;84;SL;Man of the People;High;peres;x
559046;Minister of Security;Yitzhak Peretz Haim;84;SC;Silent Lawyer;High;peretz;x
559047;Minister of Security;Yitzhak Shamir;87;SC;Prince of Terror;High;Shamir;x
559048;Minister of Security;Aryeh Deri;88;SC;Compassionate Gentleman;High;deri;x
559049;Minister of Security;Yitzhak Rabin;92;SL;Man of the People;High;Yitzhak;x
559050;Minister of Security;Uzi Baram;95;SL;Silent Lawyer;High;uzi;x
559051;Minister of Security;David Libai;95;SL;Crime Fighter;High;libai;x
559052;Minister of Security;Ehud Barak;95;SL;Efficient Sociopath;High;barak;x
559053;Minister of Security;Haim Ramon;95;SL;Prince of Terror;High;haim;x
559054;Head of Military Intelligence;Isser Harel;52;SD;Political Specialist;High;isser;x
559055;Head of Military Intelligence;Meir Amit;63;SD;Logistics Specialist;High;amit;x
559056;Head of Military Intelligence;Zvi Zamir;68;SD;Dismal Enigma;High;zamir;x
559057;Head of Military Intelligence;Yitzhak Hofi;74;SC;Logistics Specialist;High;Hofi;x
559058;Head of Military Intelligence;Nahum Admoni;82;SC;Industrial Specialist;High;Admoni;x
559059;Head of Military Intelligence;Shabtai Shavit;89;SL;Industrial Specialist;High;Shavit;x
559060;Chief of Staff;Moshe Dayan;53;SC;School of Manoeuvre;High;dayan;x
559061;Chief of Staff;Haim Laskov;58;SD;School of Psychology;High;Laskov;x
559062;Chief of Staff;Zvi Tzur;61;SD;School of Fire Support;High;tzur;x
559063;Chief of Staff;Yitzhak Rabin;64;SL;School of Manoeuvre;High;Yitzhak;x
559064;Chief of Staff;Haim Bar-Lev;68;SL;School of Fire Support;High;Bar_Lev;x
559065;Chief of Staff;David Elazar;72;SC;School of Manoeuvre;High;Elazar;x
559066;Chief of Staff;Mordechai Gur;74;SL;School of Psychology;High;Gur;x
559067;Chief of Staff;Rafael Eitan;78;SC;School of Mass Combat;High;eitan;x
559068;Chief of Staff;Moshe Levy;83;SC;School of Manoeuvre;High;MosheLevy;x
559069;Chief of Staff;Dan Shomron;87;SL;School of Fire Support;High;Shomron;x
559070;Chief of Staff;Ehud Barak;91;SL;School of Mass Combat;High;Shomron;x
559071;Chief of Staff;Amnon Lipkin-Shahak;95;SL;School of Manoeuvre;High;shahak;x
559072;Chief of Army;Moshe Dayan;53;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;High;dayan;x
559073;Chief of Army;Haim Laskov;58;SD;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;Laskov;x
559074;Chief of Army;Zvi Tzur;61;SD;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;tzur;x
559075;Chief of Army;Yitzhak Rabin;64;SL;Elastic Defence Doctrine;High;Yitzhak;x
559076;Chief of Army;Haim Bar-Lev;68;SL;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;High;Bar_Lev;x
559077;Chief of Army;David Elazar;72;SC;Static Defence Doctrine;High;Elazar;x
559078;Chief of Army;Mordechai Gur;74;SL;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;Gur;x
559079;Chief of Army;Rafael Eitan;78;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;High;eitan;x
559080;Chief of Army;Dan Shomron;83;SL;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;Shomron;x
559081;Chief of Army;Amir Drori;85;SL;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;drori;x
559082;Chief of Army;Uri Sagi;86;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;High;leba1;x
559083;Chief of Army;Emanuel Sakel;91;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559084;Chief of Army;Ze'ev Livne;94;SL;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;zeev_livne;x
559085;Chief of Navy;Shmuel Tankos;54;SC;Base Control Doctrine;High;Tankos;x
559086;Chief of Navy;Yohai Ben-Nun;60;SD;Indirect Approach Doctrine;High;Yohai;x
559087;Chief of Navy;Shlomo Harhel;66;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559088;Chief of Navy;Abraham Botzer;68;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559089;Chief of Navy;Benjamin Telem;72;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559090;Chief of Navy;Michael Barkai;75;SC;Power Projection Doctrine;High;Barkai;x
559091;Chief of Navy;Ze'ev Almog;79;SC;Indirect Approach Doctrine;High;almog;x
559092;Chief of Navy;Abraham Ben-Shushan;85;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559093;Chief of Navy;Michael Ram;89;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559094;Chief of Navy;Ami Ayalon;92;SL;Base Control Doctrine;High;Ayalon;x
559095;Chief of Navy;Alex Tal;95;SL;Base Control Doctrine;High;alex;x
559096;Chief of Air Force;Dan Tolkovsky;53;SD;Air Superiority Doctrine;High;Tolkovsky;x
559097;Chief of Air Force;Ezer Weizman;58;SL;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;High;weizman;x
559098;Chief of Air Force;Mordechai Hod;66;SL;Army Aviation Doctrine;High;hod;x
559099;Chief of Air Force;Binyamin Peled;73;SL;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;High;peled;x
559100;Chief of Air Force;David Ivri;77;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559101;Chief of Air Force;Amos Lapidot;82;SC;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;High;lapidot;x
559102;Chief of Air Force;Avihu Ben-Nun;87;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559103;Chief of Air Force;Herzl Bodinger;92;SL;Army Aviation Doctrine;High;Bodinger;x
 
Mean Bolshevik i can't use your Finnish minister list because it slow downs the game and makes a CTD when you quit the game.

I think that the reason of the CTD is on the program you used for writing the ministers, instead of excel or windows notepad, i recommend you to use progammer's notepad and rewrite the whole list again respecting the vanilla ids and the continuity of these (IE if it jumps from 29010 to 29040 in vanilla, then it can goe from 29010 to 29011 in the mod)
Yes i know that it is not confortable but as you can understand we can't have those kind of errors in the game.
 
Mean Bolshevik said:
I'll handle it some time soon. The id's were something I thought I already did. And I used Editpad for editing, btw.
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Oh about that no forget it, your minister list is ok, i've fixed it. I'm sorry for the confussion created.
 
I'm making the Irish minister list and i'm thinking... what in-game ideology would you give to Sinn Fein????
 
Brote Heckler said:
Umm... no... more like Social Conservative... actually exactly Social Conservative. Didn't we agree on... this before?
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No we didn't agreed about this, the problem with SC is that i already assigned that ideology to Fiana Feil (FF), ML to (FG), (SL) to PD and SD to the Irish Labourist party (oh, of course i included a small amount of commie ministers.)
 
Lol i've discovered that for some obscure reason Irish heads of military intelligence from vanilla are coded according to the Minister for Posts & Telegraphs.

I'm sure that they intercepted a bunch of communications and letters :rofl:
 
Kretoxian said:
No we didn't agreed about this, the problem with SC is that i already assigned that ideology to Fiana Feil (FF), ML to (FG), (SL) to PD and SD to the Irish Labourist party (oh, of course i included a small amount of commie ministers.)
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Well... like in any country, a party doesn't define the politician's stance. Not to mention, a party isn't always defined by its ideology, like both the Democrat and Republican party in America have the same ideology in a LOT of respects and are simply opposition parties to one another. Its simply who can get more votes. Fiana Feil today is relatively liberal, from what I've read on them, and Sinn Fein is absolutely social conservative.

Sinn Fein pushes for nationwide and exclusive teaching of Gaelic, the peaceful reintegration of the Irish forces back into exclusive control of Irish policing matters, which they still share with Mi6 agents, and of course reintegration of Northern Ireland. Fiana Feil, however, wants wounds to heal, wants to focus on economic growth, like market liberals, and is much more popular, they don't really care for social engineering.
 
I've been improving the Soviet Minister list adding more ministers, more pics and improved some of the previous ones, here's the list:
Code: 
SOV;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;Country
;Replacements;;;;;;;x
4001;Head of State;Kliment Voroshilov;53;LE;Pig-headed Isolationist;very high;kliment;x
4002;Head of State;Leonid Brezhnev;60;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Brezhnev_a;x
4003;Head of State;Anastas Mikoyan;64;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;anastas;x
4004;Head of State;Nikolai Podgorny;65;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;nikolai;x
4005;Head of State;Vasily Kuznetsov;82;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;kuznetsov;x
4006;Head of State;Andrei Gromyko;85;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;gromyko;x
4007;Head of State;Mikhail Gorbachev;88;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;gorbachev;x
4008;Head of State;Gennady Yanayev;88;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;yanaev;x
4009;Head of Government;Georgy Malenkov;53;LE;Political Protege;very high;malenkov;x
4010;Head of Government;Nikolay Bulganin;55;LE;Old General;very high;bulganin;x
4011;Head of Government;Nikita Khrushchev;57;LE;Ambitious Union Boss;very high;khrushchev;x
4012;Head of Government;Aleksey Kosygin;64;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;kosygin;x
4013;Head of Government;Nikolay Tikhonov;80;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;tikhonov;x
4014;Head of Government;Nikolay Ryzhkov;85;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;ryzhkov;x
4015;Head of Government;Valentin Pavlov;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;pavlov;x
4016;Head of Government;Ivan Silayev;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;silayev;x
4017;Foreign Minister;Vyacheslav Molotov;53;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Molotov;x
4018;Foreign Minister;Dmitri Shepilov;56;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Shepilov;x
4019;Foreign Minister;Andrei Gromyko;57;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;f_gromyko;x
4020;Foreign Minister;Eduard Shevardnadze;85;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;shevardnadze;x
4021;Foreign Minister;Aleksandr Bessmertnykh;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4022;Foreign Minister;Boris Pankin;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4023;Head of Military Intelligence;Ivan Serov;54;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Serov;x
4024;Head of Military Intelligence;Alexander Shelepin;58;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4025;Head of Military Intelligence;Vladimir Semichastniy;61;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4026;Head of Military Intelligence;Yuriy Andropov;67;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4027;Head of Military Intelligence;Vitaliy Fedorchuk;82;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4028;Head of Military Intelligence;Viktor Chebrikov;82;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4029;Head of Military Intelligence;Vladimir Kryuchkov;88;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Kriuchkov;x
4030;Head of Military Intelligence;Leonid Shebarshin;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4031;Head of Military Intelligence;Vadim Bakatin;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4032;Minister of Armament;Nikolay Bulganin;53;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;bulganin;x
4033;Minister of Armament;Georgiy Zhukov;55;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;zhukov;x
4034;Minister of Armament;Rodion Malinovski;57;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;malinovsky;x
4035;Minister of Armament;Andrey Grechko;67;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;grechko;x
4036;Minister of Armament;Dmitriy Ustinov;76;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Ustinov;x
4037;Minister of Armament;Sergei Sokolov;84;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Sokolov;x
4038;Minister of Armament;Dmitry Yazov;87;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;yazov;x
4039;Minister of Armament;Mikhail Moiseyev;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4040;Minister of Armament;Yevgeny Shaposhnikov;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4041;Chief of Staff;Nikolay Bulganin;53;LE;School of Psychology;very high;bulganin;x
4042;Chief of Staff;Georgiy Zhukov;55;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;zhukov;x
4043;Chief of Staff;Rodion Malinovski;57;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;malinovsky;x
4044;Chief of Staff;Andrey Grechko;67;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;grechko;x
4045;Chief of Staff;Dmitriy Ustinov;76;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Ustinov;x
4046;Chief of Staff;Sergei Sokolov;84;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;Sokolov;x
4047;Chief of Staff;Dmitry Yazov;87;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;yazov;x
4048;Chief of Staff;Mikhail Moiseyev;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4049;Chief of Staff;Yevgeny Shaposhnikov;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4050;Minister of Security;Sergey Kruglov;53;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4051;Minister of Security;Nikolai Dudorov;56;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4052;Minister of Security;Nikolai Shcholokov;66;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4053;Minister of Security;Vitaliy Fedorchuk;82;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4054;Minister of Security;Aleksandr Vlasov;86;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;vlasov;x
4055;Minister of Security;Vadim Bakatin;88;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;bakatin;x
4056;Minister of Security;Boris Pugo;90;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4057;Minister of Security;Vasiliy Trushin;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4058;Minister of Security;Viktor Barannikov;91;LE;Undistinguished Suit;very high;unknown;x
4059;Chief of Navy;Nikolai Kuznetsov;51;LE;Open Seas Doctrine;Very High;kuznetsov_a.bmp;x
4060;Chief of Navy;Sergey Gorshkov;55;LE;Decisive Naval Battle Doctrine;Very High;gorshkovsg5oa;x
4061;Chief of Navy;Vladimir Chernavin;83;LE;Base Control Doctrine;Very High;chernavin;x
4062;Chief of Navy;Ivan Isakov;55;LE;Power Projection Doctrine;Very High;Isakov_is;x
4063;Chief of Air Force;Alexander Golovanov;44;LE;Air Superiority Doctrine;Very High;Golovanov;x
4064;Chief of Air Force;Pavel Zhigarev;55;LE;Army Aviation Doctrine;Very High;Zhigarev;x
4065;Chief of Air Force;Konstantin Vershinin;59;LE;Vertical Envelopement Doctrine;Very High;Vershinin;x
4066;Chief of Air Force;Pavel Kutakhov;72;LE;Naval Aviation Doctrine;Very High;Kutaxov;x
4067;Chief of Air Force;Boris Bugaev;77;LE;Air Superiority Doctrine;Very High;Bugaev;x
4068;Chief of Air Force;Alexander Koldunov;84;LE;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;Very High;Koldunov;x
4069;Chief of Army;Nikolay Bulganin;53;LE;Guns and Butter Doctrine;very high;bulganin;x
4070;Chief of Army;Ivan Bagramian;55;LE;Static Defence Doctrine;very high;Bagramian;x
4071;Chief of Army;Sergei Biriuzov;55;LE;Elastic Defense Doctrine;very high;Biriuzov;x
4072;Chief of Army;Andrei Grechko;55;LE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;very high;Grechko_a;x
4073;Chief of Army;Andrei Eremenko;55;LE;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;very high;Eremenko;x
4074;Chief of Army;Kirill Moskalenko;55;LE;Guns and Butter Doctrine;very high;Moskalenko;x
4075;Chief of Army;Vasili Chuikov;55;LE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;very high;Chuikov;x
4076;Chief of Army;Matvej Zakharov;59;LE;Static Defence Doctrine;very high;Zakharov;x
4077;Chief of Army;Filipp Golikov;61;LE;Guns and Butter Doctrine;very high;Golikov;x
4078;Chief of Army;Nikolai Krylov;62;LE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;very high;Krylov;x
4079;Chief of Army;Ivan Jakubovski;67;LE;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;very high;Jakubovski;x
4080;Chief of Army;Pavel Batitski;68;LE;Guns and Butter Doctrine;very high;Batitski;x
4081;Chief of Army;Petr Koshevoi;68;LE;Elastic Defense Doctrine;very high;Koshevoi;x
4082;Chief of Army;Leonid Brezhnev;76;LE;Guns and Butter Doctrine;very high;Brezhnev_a;x
4083;Chief of Army;Dmitri Ustinov;76;LE;Static Defence Doctrine;very high;Ustinov_a;x
4084;Chief of Army;Viktor Kulikov;77;LE;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;very high;Kulikov;x
4085;Chief of Army;Nikolai Ogarkov;77;LE;Elastic Defense Doctrine;very high;Ogarkov;x
4086;Chief of Army;Sergei Sokolov;78;LE;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;very high;Sokolov_a.bmp;x
4087;Chief of Army;Sergei Akhromeev;83;LE;Guns and Butter Doctrine;very high;Akhromeev;x
4088;Chief of Army;Semen Kurkotkin;83;LE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;very high;Kurkotkin;x
4089;Chief of Army;Vasili Petrov;83;LE;Static Defence Doctrine;very high;Petrov;x
4090;Chief of Army;Dmitri Jazov;90;LE;Static Defence Doctrine;very high;Jazov;x

If anyone can find a pic for Sergey Kruglov please post it in the proper thread.
 
Kretoxian said:
Nice minister list and nice pics i've included them into the game.

A suggestion for the next time: If you can not find any guy to fit a post (like the chief of army or chief of navy in your list) just type Blue/Red/Black shadow and fit it, this way we avoid some CTDs ok?)

BTW i've compiled a complete Israel Minister list.
I post it here to hear any suggestion to personality, ideology...etc
Code: 
ISR;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x
559001;Head of State;Yitzhak Ben-Zvi;52;SD;Stern Imperialist;High;Ben-Zvi;x
559002;Head of State;Kadish Luz;63;SD;Insignificant Layman;High;luz_kadish;x
559003;Head of State;Zalman Shazar;63;SL;Weary Stiffneck;High;Shazar;x
559004;Head of State;Ephraim Katzir;73;SL;Barking Buffoon;High;katzir;x
559005;Head of State;Yitzhak Navon;78;SL;Benevolent Gentleman;High;navon;x
559006;Head of State;Haim Herzog;83;SL;Weary Stiffneck;High;herzog;x
559007;Head of State;Ezer Weizman;93;SL;Weary Stiffneck;High;weizman;x
559008;Head of Government;Moshe Sharett;53;SD;Silent Workhorse;High;sharett;x
559009;Head of Government;David Ben-Gurion;55;SD;Flamboyant Tough Guy;High;Gurion;x
559010;Head of Government;Levi Eshkol;63;SD;Ambitious Union Boss;High;eshkol;x
559011;Head of Government;Yigal Allon;69;SL;Corporate Suit;High;allon;x
559012;Head of Government;Golda Meir;69;SL;Flamboyant Tough Guy;High;meir;x
559013;Head of Government;Yitzhak Rabin;74;SL;Naive Optimist;High;Yitzhak;x
559014;Head of Government;Shimon Peres;77;SL;Smiling Oilman;High;peres;x
559015;Head of Government;Menahem Begin;77;SC;Silent Workhorse;High;menahem;x
559016;Head of Government;Yitzhak Shamir;83;SC;Smiling Oilman;High;Shamir;x
559017;Foreign Minister;Moshe Sharett;48;SD;Biased Intellectual;High;sharett;x
559018;Foreign Minister;Golda Meir;55;SD;The Cloak N Dagger Schemer;High;meir;x
559019;Foreign Minister;Abba Eban;66;SD;Apologetic Clerk;High;eban;x
559020;Foreign Minister;Yigal Allon;74;SD;Great Compromiser;High;allon;x
559021;Foreign Minister;Moshe Dayan;77;SC;General Staffer;High;dayan;x
559022;Foreign Minister;Menahem Begin;79;SC;Iron-fisted Brute;High;menahem;x
559023;Foreign Minister;Yitzhak Shamir;80;SC;Great Compromiser;High;Shamir;x
559024;Foreign Minister;Shimon Peres;86;SL;Apologetic Clerk;High;peres;x
559025;Foreign Minister;Moshe Arens;86;SC;Biased Intellectual;High;arens;x
559026;Foreign Minister;David Levy;90;SC;Biased Intellectual;High;levy;x
559027;Foreign Minister;Yossi Beilin;95;SL;Great Compromiser;High;beilin;x
559028;Foreign Minister;Ehud Barak;95;SL;Great Compromiser;High;barak;x
559029;Minister of Armament;Pinhas Lavon;54;SD;Laissez-Faire Capitalist;High;Lavon;x
559030;Minister of Armament;David Ben-Gurion;55;SD;Administrative Genius;High;Gurion;x
559031;Minister of Armament;Levi Eshkol;63;SD;Resource Industrialist;High;eshkol;x
559032;Minister of Armament;Moshe Dayan;67;SD;Military Entrepreneur;High;dayan;x
559033;Minister of Armament;Ezer Weizman;77;SC;Theoretical Scientist;High;weizman;x
559034;Minister of Armament;Menahem Begin;80;SC;Laissez-Faire Capitalist;High;menahem;x
559035;Minister of Armament;Ariel Sharon;81;SC;Corrupt Kleptocrat;High;Sharon;x
559036;Minister of Armament;Moshe Arens;83;SC;Administrative Genius;High;arens;x
559037;Minister of Armament;Yitzhak Rabin;84;SL;Infantry Proponent;High;Yitzhak;x
559038;Minister of Armament;Yitzhak Shamir;90;SC;Air Superiority Proponent;High;Shamir;x
559039;Minister of Armament;Shimon Peres;95;SL;Administrative Genius;High;peres;x
559040;Minister of Security;Israel Rokach;52;SC;Silent Lawyer;High;rokach;x
559041;Minister of Security;Moshe Haim Shapira;55;SC;Crime Fighter;High;Shapira;x
559042;Minister of Security;Israel Bar-Yehuda;55;SL;Prince of Terror;High;baryehuda;x
559043;Minister of Security;Yosef Burg;70;SC;Man of the People;High;Burg;x
559044;Minister of Security;Shlomo Hillel;74;SL;Efficient Sociopath;High;hilel;x
559045;Minister of Security;Shimon Peres;84;SL;Man of the People;High;peres;x
559046;Minister of Security;Yitzhak Peretz Haim;84;SC;Silent Lawyer;High;peretz;x
559047;Minister of Security;Yitzhak Shamir;87;SC;Prince of Terror;High;Shamir;x
559048;Minister of Security;Aryeh Deri;88;SC;Compassionate Gentleman;High;deri;x
559049;Minister of Security;Yitzhak Rabin;92;SL;Man of the People;High;Yitzhak;x
559050;Minister of Security;Uzi Baram;95;SL;Silent Lawyer;High;uzi;x
559051;Minister of Security;David Libai;95;SL;Crime Fighter;High;libai;x
559052;Minister of Security;Ehud Barak;95;SL;Efficient Sociopath;High;barak;x
559053;Minister of Security;Haim Ramon;95;SL;Prince of Terror;High;haim;x
559054;Head of Military Intelligence;Isser Harel;52;SD;Political Specialist;High;isser;x
559055;Head of Military Intelligence;Meir Amit;63;SD;Logistics Specialist;High;amit;x
559056;Head of Military Intelligence;Zvi Zamir;68;SD;Dismal Enigma;High;zamir;x
559057;Head of Military Intelligence;Yitzhak Hofi;74;SC;Logistics Specialist;High;Hofi;x
559058;Head of Military Intelligence;Nahum Admoni;82;SC;Industrial Specialist;High;Admoni;x
559059;Head of Military Intelligence;Shabtai Shavit;89;SL;Industrial Specialist;High;Shavit;x
559060;Chief of Staff;Moshe Dayan;53;SC;School of Manoeuvre;High;dayan;x
559061;Chief of Staff;Haim Laskov;58;SD;School of Psychology;High;Laskov;x
559062;Chief of Staff;Zvi Tzur;61;SD;School of Fire Support;High;tzur;x
559063;Chief of Staff;Yitzhak Rabin;64;SL;School of Manoeuvre;High;Yitzhak;x
559064;Chief of Staff;Haim Bar-Lev;68;SL;School of Fire Support;High;Bar_Lev;x
559065;Chief of Staff;David Elazar;72;SC;School of Manoeuvre;High;Elazar;x
559066;Chief of Staff;Mordechai Gur;74;SL;School of Psychology;High;Gur;x
559067;Chief of Staff;Rafael Eitan;78;SC;School of Mass Combat;High;eitan;x
559068;Chief of Staff;Moshe Levy;83;SC;School of Manoeuvre;High;MosheLevy;x
559069;Chief of Staff;Dan Shomron;87;SL;School of Fire Support;High;Shomron;x
559070;Chief of Staff;Ehud Barak;91;SL;School of Mass Combat;High;Shomron;x
559071;Chief of Staff;Amnon Lipkin-Shahak;95;SL;School of Manoeuvre;High;shahak;x
559072;Chief of Army;Moshe Dayan;53;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;High;dayan;x
559073;Chief of Army;Haim Laskov;58;SD;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;Laskov;x
559074;Chief of Army;Zvi Tzur;61;SD;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;tzur;x
559075;Chief of Army;Yitzhak Rabin;64;SL;Elastic Defence Doctrine;High;Yitzhak;x
559076;Chief of Army;Haim Bar-Lev;68;SL;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;High;Bar_Lev;x
559077;Chief of Army;David Elazar;72;SC;Static Defence Doctrine;High;Elazar;x
559078;Chief of Army;Mordechai Gur;74;SL;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;Gur;x
559079;Chief of Army;Rafael Eitan;78;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;High;eitan;x
559080;Chief of Army;Dan Shomron;83;SL;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;Shomron;x
559081;Chief of Army;Amir Drori;85;SL;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;drori;x
559082;Chief of Army;Uri Sagi;86;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;High;leba1;x
559083;Chief of Army;Emanuel Sakel;91;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559084;Chief of Army;Ze'ev Livne;94;SL;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;zeev_livne;x
559085;Chief of Navy;Shmuel Tankos;54;SC;Base Control Doctrine;High;Tankos;x
559086;Chief of Navy;Yohai Ben-Nun;60;SD;Indirect Approach Doctrine;High;Yohai;x
559087;Chief of Navy;Shlomo Harhel;66;SD;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559088;Chief of Navy;Abraham Botzer;68;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559089;Chief of Navy;Benjamin Telem;72;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559090;Chief of Navy;Michael Barkai;75;SC;Power Projection Doctrine;High;Barkai;x
559091;Chief of Navy;Ze'ev Almog;79;SC;Indirect Approach Doctrine;High;almog;x
559092;Chief of Navy;Abraham Ben-Shushan;85;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559093;Chief of Navy;Michael Ram;89;SL;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559094;Chief of Navy;Ami Ayalon;92;SL;Base Control Doctrine;High;Ayalon;x
559095;Chief of Navy;Alex Tal;95;SL;Base Control Doctrine;High;alex;x
559096;Chief of Air Force;Dan Tolkovsky;53;SD;Air Superiority Doctrine;High;Tolkovsky;x
559097;Chief of Air Force;Ezer Weizman;58;SL;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;High;weizman;x
559098;Chief of Air Force;Mordechai Hod;66;SL;Army Aviation Doctrine;High;hod;x
559099;Chief of Air Force;Binyamin Peled;73;SL;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;High;peled;x
559100;Chief of Air Force;David Ivri;77;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559101;Chief of Air Force;Amos Lapidot;82;SC;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;High;lapidot;x
559102;Chief of Air Force;Avihu Ben-Nun;87;SC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
559103;Chief of Air Force;Herzl Bodinger;92;SL;Army Aviation Doctrine;High;Bodinger;x
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