Originally posted by TM1
Hi to both to you guys
I have been reading your posts to each other on a new election idea for the game, sounds interesting, from my interpretations of what i have read on what is planned to be done, but in most of the posts written by you vulture there only seems to be two electoral options mentioned ELECT RIGHT or ELLECT LEFT not much mentioned about the the third option which of course is KEEP CURRENT GOVERNMENT which is why im asking about it, some time back i asked birch about elections for one of my fav countries Austria he was working on a a plan for special case countries which sounded interesting but now you vulture have a new proposal it seems for the whole election process for all countries, from what i read my concern comes from the fact the the KEEP CURRENT GOVERNMENT option may be outed please correct me if im wrong but i believe this must remain for a number of reasons, and one comes to mind ( this might be a long post so bare with me guys )the dreaded Japanese election bug which i know is being worked on for the next patch, i read a post in the General questions section by a member who was naturally upset by the fact that the bug had appeared in a game he was playing and Japan did not vote so there was no war with China he suggested that the election be hardcoded to make certain there was a election, whether he wanted it hardcoded so Japan voted right ( paternal autocrat ) i dont no (probably not ) but non the less that a election be hardcoded thats fine by me as long as it happens im happy to, but on the chance he was thinking that the election should be made to be hardcoded right ( Fascists ) so that war can begin this i do not agree with since as another member put it correctly if you turn back the hands of time history does not always go the same way, there are any number of things that may change, as game designers and as most or if not all game players no the reason why every one wants Japan to vote Right is so war breaks out this frees up huge resources ( oil & rubber )and if your a struggling European neutral its a god send and i have have played them as have most others but thats the great thing about this game you adapt, improvise and overcome, i have played the Czech Republic my economy is in the drink by 1937 the Japanese election finally rolls around in 1938 and they vote to KEEP CURRENT GOVERMENT its not till 1941 that they go Fascists but im not complaining thats life thats the game you roll with the punches ( of course i may be sounding bias since i have been pushing for a democratic election for Austria but i can live with that idea being canned to be fair to all in game terms) and if people dont like it tuff luck play Japan and vote Fascists yourself stop complaining that the AI does not vote the way you want it too, thats what i think , the bottom line is computer controlled countries or AI countries as well as human players should have the the third KEEP CURRENT GOV option, we need to have that random effect for the AI so that it has a 1 in 5 chance vote the opposite to history or keep the government in its current form, also if you decide to give every country a vote this could spell disaster for the Axis what happens if you the Germans vote and they get rid of the nazis in 1937 or in Russia they vote the communists out, this would throw the game into confusion i think, now like i said i may have read your posts wrong vulture so let me know.
one more thing i hope birch might help me here i wrote a post not long back about the American government i notice that both the Head of State and Head of Government are both under the US Presidents banner now being not a great expert on American political machinations i do know however that the Speaker of the house is a very powerful man in US circles would he not be at least a defacto Head of State with the US President as Head of Government, could this work for the US cabinet.
Regards TM1
But I will make a suggestion...very much along the lines you laid.I will finish each country with the correct political observation(PA etc) and then add the elect/events (and possibilities)Then I will send them one by one to you and then you can script the event,which you can send to me along...actually I do not see any need for deleting the cabinets and move them all down to replacements as the events will be a simple trigger elect A or elect B (or vice versa)and then the player will make the election....and everyone is happy....
