Jihad Question

[Bulldog773]

So I normally never play Muslim nations but I was like what the hell, let do it. So long story short its 1170, I'm king of Aleppo & Sunni. BUT I can't call a jihad. Catholics have had Jerusalem since almost 1066 ( a couple decades after the start) and have call 3 Crusades against Muslim jeld territory. So what gives, what am I missing? I want to call a jihad & cant, very frustrating. There are like 3 Sunni Muslim kingdoms left

 

[knppel]

You need a Caliph to declare jihads. Big advantage, unlike catholics who rely on a pope, Muslims can diy.

Requirement to be caliph is:
-Hold Mecca and Medina, OR Hold Jerusalem, Bagdad and Damascus
-Be either Sayyid, Mirza or have 1000 piety

Can Create Any caliphate. If you want it gamey, rotate between muslim branches to use multiple jihads in row.

 

[Serenity84]

Are you also the Caliph?

 

[knppel]

Are you also the Caliph?

If he was, he could call jihads. Assuming the op started 1066, typically Seljuk kills the Caliphate for being a disloyal vassal at some point rather sooner than later, if he doesn't fail.

Jihad aera to trigger requires capable caliphs ruling lands -I've seen a 59 year old murder his nephew, declare the jihad aera the same day, and die a week later to leave for his infant grandson, who waged war.
That AI move was impressive.

 

[MK1980]

if you're powerful enough, you can also just use the muslim invasion CB to conquer stuff. it's a kingdom level CB that is available to any muslim. you have to pay 1000 piety and you don't get to invite other muslims, but it's still pretty damn powerful.

 

[Bulldog773]

I'm not the caliph. I assumed the jihad would work like the crusade, I click on caliph (pope) and ask for jihad. Or maybe even click on my target and see Jihad as a CB but nope. I'm surprised though, 3 crusades no zero jihads.

Yeah I could use the invade Jerusalem CB but they call in all Catholics, that turns out to be a lop sided war ( me against the catholic world). Safe to say that I lose that one

 

[Serenity84]

The Caliph is not the Pope. It's like being the Norse Falkyir or some other religious heads. You're a temporal and spiritual leader in one person.

And Muslims already have other offensive CBs so that you don't need to be able to call a Jihad

 

[Larva]

You cannot ask your Caliph to call for Jihad.
If Caliph exists, he will eventually call Jihad himself (if Jihad is unlocked - which is obviously should be the case in your game, if Catholics hold Jerusalem) - if he is not busy fighting some war, he is some pathetic guy or whatever. Also MA needs to be >5%.
It usually helps to be Caliph yourself (YOU call it, but you also eat pact defenders) or have a vassal Caliph - this way you have a bit more control over AI (AI will weight unknown options to understand - does he really wants to call it or not)