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BTW, there is an advantage to getting Nat.Spain into the Axis - Britain will attack into Spain via Gibraltar (and win at least some provinces). But since the UK AI is not too smart it will do so by using troops which were used to guard England from invasion 
I was able to invade England with just "normal" troops this way, even the Homefleet was no problem since it was busy hunting my 6 flottila sub fleet in the Atlantic
Sadly even on normal UK's AI is too aggressive for its own good.
CharonJr
I was able to invade England with just "normal" troops this way, even the Homefleet was no problem since it was busy hunting my 6 flottila sub fleet in the Atlantic
Sadly even on normal UK's AI is too aggressive for its own good.
CharonJr
How are you using your aircraft? I prefer to isolate Paris by flying TACs on interdiction missions in the Paris Region and then say it with Stukas in Ground Support on Paris itself. Also, I like to make my right (north) flank strong to attack Paris from Argentan with INF supported from Compiegne, Troyes and Amiens. Being stong on the right makes it easier to pass your panzer corps into the French rear and get that 25% of French provinces and start the Vichy clock running before the French get their Maginot Line forces into the fight.
Anyone hear how Ironhead 5 is doing. I thought he came back from Iraq last month.....but haven't had an update or message from him for several months. Hope all is well....This AAR is too good to end.....we need his analysis and instinct on how to do a great game!!!
Come on Ironhead.....where are you?
KLorberau
Come on Ironhead.....where are you?
KLorberau
If you look at his profile, there's a couple of messages there explaining things. Basically, he's busy with work and rl issues, but he's ok.
hope this AAR continues even though i've been playing this game for a while a couple of things Ironhead has done really helped me pick up this game and become a better player! Take your time though and get some well deserved rest!
Ripper-beauty-bonza-bottler
FAN-BLOODY-TASTIC!!! I have owned this game for a bit over 3 years but really couldn't play it for about 18 months..(no PC and very broke)
And most of my games have been, shamefully, largely lacking in finese and usually rely on blunt-force-trauma to get my way.
This AAR, has helped me immensly. Illummed and motivated. Thank you Ironhead 5. Every NOOB should be sent this link automatically.
Suggested name change..see title
FAN-BLOODY-TASTIC!!! I have owned this game for a bit over 3 years but really couldn't play it for about 18 months..(no PC and very broke
)And most of my games have been, shamefully, largely lacking in finese and usually rely on blunt-force-trauma to get my way.
This AAR, has helped me immensly. Illummed and motivated. Thank you Ironhead 5. Every NOOB should be sent this link automatically.
Suggested name change..see title
Photobucket account inactive. This sucks big time, I was goin to use this AAR to show some new players what's up.
Ironhead, thanks a lot for this AAR. I'm learning so much from it you'd think I didn't know anything about HOI (which I don't ).
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did you take a look at the Word document in the opening post? You should be able to show them with that
I know this particular post is a year old, but I feel this could help someone who wants to do the best they can but not be gamey:
That is actually not gamey at all. Historically, BdU started the first U-Boat patrols on August 18 for the distinct purpose that they'd be at their patrol areas and through the English Channel by the time the war started. After the war started U-Boat travel through the English Channel was forbidden, so starting patrols in August was the one way they could get out and prepared for convoy raiding in time for the war to start.
That is actually not gamey at all. Historically, BdU started the first U-Boat patrols on August 18 for the distinct purpose that they'd be at their patrol areas and through the English Channel by the time the war started. After the war started U-Boat travel through the English Channel was forbidden, so starting patrols in August was the one way they could get out and prepared for convoy raiding in time for the war to start.
Here is a bump for the thread, it is much too useful for beginners (such as myself) to get dragged down like this.
EDIT: Out of boredom I made a word cloud of the first six chapters at Wordle.
http://www.wordle.net/show/wrdl/2192729/How_the_heck_do_you_play_this_game%3F_Part_1
EDIT: Out of boredom I made a word cloud of the first six chapters at Wordle.
http://www.wordle.net/show/wrdl/2192729/How_the_heck_do_you_play_this_game%3F_Part_1
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Obviously, one cannot post in this thread without offering a very deep bow to Ironhead. This has been more helpful in understanding the intricacies of the game than... well, anything else I encountered sofar. Much obliged.
Post then continues with observations from my game where I am trying to follow along faithfully. I have to admit I have no clue what exactly is different in Armagedon - but from what I see, a lot.
1) Research is a lot faster. I noticed that I am running way ahead of you in research. I also noticed that I have to use a differing order or research: sometimes you'll advice to take 'Techt a' first, but it is only available after reesearching 'Tech b' that you start later. No biggie.
I can guess that I have traded a few blueprints but that doesn't account for all.
2) Romania will not ally (now in march 1940). before Hungary, after Hungary, before Bulgaria, after Bulgaria: relations have been a healthy 200 for years and chance of joining the Axis remains a steadfast 0. Either I am doing something wrong or there is something hardcoded in Armageddon. No clue. They are not a democracy, in case anyone wonders Portrugal and Argentina do want to join (95% chance). I resisted the help, but that seems rather too simple? Italy, by the way, refuses all events with Germany and Japan. I dunno if this will make a mess of the Grand Strategy later on.
3) Attacking Poland with exactly the forces you had, using your exact tactics/strategems did not work, period. After declaring war, I was at the gates of Warsaw (taking all objectives within two days) after 7 days. Planes had been bombing the place for four days, like you instructed. The 17 divisions in the city resisted all I managed to throw against them on seven reloads of the war. I ended up reloading my januari first 1939 save and place six extra infantry corps in the northern area. That did the job, but barely. A LOT of casualties sank my usable IC due to replacements in the nether regions for months.
4) Attacking Denmark went as expected and they surrendered as advertised, but the partisan activity is quite persistent. Maybe a few garrisons needed. Is this not in Doomsday or Vanilla?
5) Attacking Norway caused a few surprises. I had to reload and send out the Kriegsmarine to protect the transport fleet with the Alpenjager and infantry. The Norse fleet sank them the first time around.
Taking Oslo was indeed simple, but the Norse troops were retreating northwest only to isolate the advancing Alpenjagers later on. I am uncertain if this is what happens with everyone, but I am sure it will hamper my combat operations anytime soon.
Also, the convoy from Aarhus - Oslo is under constant attack. Beats me where those subs are coming from - so far the Kriegsmarine has been unable to find anything. I was forced to divert production IC to building transports and escorts to keep the convoy viable.
6) France wasn't helping either - while I was worrying about the Norwegian developments, France crashed through the front door using 72 divisions, 8 of them armour. The four corps each in Freiburg, Saarbrucken and Stuttgard were no match obviously even with all my TACs and CAGs offering support. You did mention that after they took Freiburg all I need to do was take the Maginot line from Stuttgard - but the four corps doing just that barely managed to do it, then were crushed in a counterattack from Freiburg (20 divisions) and in the back from France proper while the other 52 divisions from Freiburg went on to Munich and Vienna. The armour went north, maybe towards Berlin... I am guessing France is now devoid of troops? Perhaps when they do attack, I should declare war on the Low Countries and execute the attack?
Or, I am looking at a reload I guess, the one from januari 1st 1940 and not place any infantry corps on the Societ border but in stead place them all on the French border. I got 10 corps built between january 1st and march, so they should hopefully be able to either defeat the attack of deter it.
I would like to know if this is either because I am doing something very wrong, or that there is a HUGE difference in Armageddon. Also - what surpises can I expect once the Big Red Beard kicks off? I mean, if France and Poland were too much for me under these circumstances, that Russian bear looks very scary.
All in all, no harm done, because what I learend will prove invaluable regardless of how this turns out, but I am curious. Also, I reclal you asking about differences with Armageddon, so there
Thanks again, and thoughts on my errors or the setup of Armageddon are appreciated.
Post then continues with observations from my game where I am trying to follow along faithfully. I have to admit I have no clue what exactly is different in Armagedon - but from what I see, a lot.
1) Research is a lot faster. I noticed that I am running way ahead of you in research. I also noticed that I have to use a differing order or research: sometimes you'll advice to take 'Techt a' first, but it is only available after reesearching 'Tech b' that you start later. No biggie.
I can guess that I have traded a few blueprints but that doesn't account for all.
2) Romania will not ally (now in march 1940). before Hungary, after Hungary, before Bulgaria, after Bulgaria: relations have been a healthy 200 for years and chance of joining the Axis remains a steadfast 0. Either I am doing something wrong or there is something hardcoded in Armageddon. No clue. They are not a democracy, in case anyone wonders
Portrugal and Argentina do want to join (95% chance). I resisted the help, but that seems rather too simple? Italy, by the way, refuses all events with Germany and Japan. I dunno if this will make a mess of the Grand Strategy later on.3) Attacking Poland with exactly the forces you had, using your exact tactics/strategems did not work, period. After declaring war, I was at the gates of Warsaw (taking all objectives within two days) after 7 days. Planes had been bombing the place for four days, like you instructed. The 17 divisions in the city resisted all I managed to throw against them on seven reloads of the war. I ended up reloading my januari first 1939 save and place six extra infantry corps in the northern area. That did the job, but barely. A LOT of casualties sank my usable IC due to replacements in the nether regions for months.
4) Attacking Denmark went as expected and they surrendered as advertised, but the partisan activity is quite persistent. Maybe a few garrisons needed. Is this not in Doomsday or Vanilla?
5) Attacking Norway caused a few surprises. I had to reload and send out the Kriegsmarine to protect the transport fleet with the Alpenjager and infantry. The Norse fleet sank them the first time around.
Taking Oslo was indeed simple, but the Norse troops were retreating northwest only to isolate the advancing Alpenjagers later on. I am uncertain if this is what happens with everyone, but I am sure it will hamper my combat operations anytime soon.
Also, the convoy from Aarhus - Oslo is under constant attack. Beats me where those subs are coming from - so far the Kriegsmarine has been unable to find anything. I was forced to divert production IC to building transports and escorts to keep the convoy viable.
6) France wasn't helping either - while I was worrying about the Norwegian developments, France crashed through the front door using 72 divisions, 8 of them armour. The four corps each in Freiburg, Saarbrucken and Stuttgard were no match obviously even with all my TACs and CAGs offering support. You did mention that after they took Freiburg all I need to do was take the Maginot line from Stuttgard - but the four corps doing just that barely managed to do it, then were crushed in a counterattack from Freiburg (20 divisions) and in the back from France proper while the other 52 divisions from Freiburg went on to Munich and Vienna. The armour went north, maybe towards Berlin... I am guessing France is now devoid of troops? Perhaps when they do attack, I should declare war on the Low Countries and execute the attack?
Or, I am looking at a reload I guess, the one from januari 1st 1940 and not place any infantry corps on the Societ border but in stead place them all on the French border. I got 10 corps built between january 1st and march, so they should hopefully be able to either defeat the attack of deter it.
I would like to know if this is either because I am doing something very wrong, or that there is a HUGE difference in Armageddon. Also - what surpises can I expect once the Big Red Beard kicks off? I mean, if France and Poland were too much for me under these circumstances, that Russian bear looks very scary.
All in all, no harm done, because what I learend will prove invaluable regardless of how this turns out, but I am curious. Also, I reclal you asking about differences with Armageddon, so there
Thanks again, and thoughts on my errors or the setup of Armageddon are appreciated.
Thank you very much Ironhead 5 for this AAR!
It's very informative for a new player!
I would also like to thank ksnoopy for making the Word document!
It's very informative for a new player!
I would also like to thank ksnoopy for making the Word document!
Is there tutorial like this for hearts of iron III?
This one helped me learn and love hoi2 dd - but i can't play hoi3. Please a tutorial like this for germany on Semper fi
This one helped me learn and love hoi2 dd - but i can't play hoi3. Please a tutorial like this for germany on Semper fi
Thank you very much to everyone that has contributed to this excellent tutorial AAR!
Especially to Ironhead 5!
It's an perfect way to learn the game IMHO!
Especially to Ironhead 5!
It's an perfect way to learn the game IMHO!
