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Kurblius

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I have Horse Lords and Jade Dragon and I've played as nomad before but I've yet to attack a nomad as a feudal government. How does it work? I'd like to take a small nomad kingdom sitting on Black Sea silk road port and convert it to a vassal merchant republic. There are no cities in that province though. I am Byzantium.
 
You need to build those cities and castles. So holy war -> build holdings -> normal merchant republic procedure.
 
As tribal you need a few buildings in your tribal holding since you can’t build cities or castles.

But I usually don’t do it. Not worth the effort to colonize the se lands.
 
To conquer, simply march your army in their lands and make them stand there while you build a fort (or else the provinces revert back as soon as troops move). Proceed to do that with every county until you have enough war score to defeat them. Their "capital", or the nomad camp, still has to be sieged down as usual.

To colonize, you actually have to build castles/cities in the province yourself, with your own money. Those provinces are empty pastures with zero holdings. It's up to you to build them. Requires a lot of money but it will eventually turn into a normal county.

As a general rule, those "empty" provinces always instantly take on the culture and religion of whoever is owning them.
 
Thanks everyone that was helpful. Do empty land count towards demesne limit? Do they generate any income once owned but before cities are built?
I have never payed attention to that, but I gues they do not. Anyways you absolutly have to build holdings in order to keep the province in your realm, otherwise it would become nomand again and break free of your realm upon succsession.
 
Thanks everyone that was helpful. Do empty land count towards demesne limit? Do they generate any income once owned but before cities are built?

The minute you end the war and conquer, the land stops being empty; you get the land with a no-improvement tribal holding, which does count 1 toward demesne limit and generate (pretty pathetic) income as normal for such a holding. I forget if they get the "recently conquered" debuff to income though.

On death of whoever holds that land (normally you, but potentially a vassal if you want to keep your demesne count low or whatever), the county will revert to nomadic (not necessarily the same nomads you conquered from, but always one that fits the culture/religion of the province) unless you build a real holding (castle etc) or build enough upgrades in the tribal holding. You'll have an alert tooltip to guide you for this
 
Empty land does not count towards demesne limit, the only thing it provides is prestige (all) and population( for nomads)

I think that province needs at least 2 holdingahfor it not to secede due totnomad agitation