[Forum Game] World in Revolution: 1914

[Muskeato]

We are as surprised as you Kaiser that we are invading the Netherlands. Our navies have barely left port and they are certainly not headed for any Dutch territory. The Dutch 'treaty' was only mutually beneficial to yourself and the Dutch, and to the disadvantage of Japan, it should be obvious why we protested against it. There was no threat of war, and your despicable lies are obvious for all to see.

OOC: Why does Japan keep getting singled out? I'm not the only nation the Dutch approached.

Also, Japan isn't an ally of Russia. Technically it's only an ally of the UK, fighting on the same side as the Entente proper.

 

[Mr. Santiago]

We can confirm the existance of a German note adressed to Us, regarding the submarine warfare, and Germany's intention of respecting the non-belligerant nation's ships. However, we will refrain from publicly commenting on the affair until after the events unfould.

We welcome the Portugese's Republic intention of improving the infraestructure around our common border as the first project between two good neighborns. We shall initiative more private conversations on the matter.

E. Dater e Iradier, President of the Council of Ministers of Spain


OOC: And what do you mean by Guinea?. IIRC your Cabinda and my Guinea don't share a border, there's German Cameroon in the middle.
*Goes to check map*

 

[King50000]

The Japanese "Emperor" and his aids should reread the statement from the Imperial Offices, as we did not say that Japan was invading, only that they would if the Dutch went forward with the treaty they proposed to us, you and your British masters were only invited into the talks as the other dominant powers in Asia. It was only benefitual to us and the Dutch, because it was only for us, as Japan does not deserve or need further gains in the Pacific or Asia..

OOC: Fighting on the same side of another nation in a war..... Sounds like you 2 are "allies" to me.

 

[reis91]

The Portuguese Republic would like to attract industrial investment from other countries, and to that end, we will reduce taxes on enterprises in certain strategic areas we would like to see developed.

We also want to offer to naval powers a very enticing deal, on the following conditions.

Said power will invest into the professional formation, refitting of installations and licensing of key patents, to upgrade Portugal's main shipbuilding yards, and in return, you will be able to use their capacity to produce ships at lower costs, due to cheaper work, added naval capacity, cheaper costs of refitting compared to building new shipyards in your nation, and raw materials produced in Portugal will be available for use in shipbuilding tax-free, further reducing the costs of commissioned ships.

OOC: Perhaps it could be implemented as a gain in naval tech if the nation's tech is superior to Portugal's, and shipbuilding price decrease for the nation. At the criteria of the GM, obviously.)

 

[Culise]

OOC: And a small holding in Gulf of Guinea I can't remember the name.

OOC: Spanish Guinea, a creative name if I've ever heard one. After independence, they really went all out for their new name: Equatorial Guinea.

The Romanian government accepts the Russian offer of investment.

 

[reis91]

We can confirm the existance of a German note adressed to Us, regarding the submarine warfare, and Germany's intention of respecting the non-belligerant nation's ships. However, we will refrain from publicly commenting on the affair until after the events unfould.

We welcome the Portugese's Republic intention of improving the infraestructure around our common border as the first project between two good neighborns. We shall initiative more private conversations on the matter.

E. Dater e Iradier, President of the Council of Ministers of Spain


OOC: And what do you mean by Guinea?. IIRC your Cabinda and my Guinea don't share a border, there's German Cameroon in the middle.
*Goes to check map*

OOC: I meant you had left it out on your ooc comment.

 

[Muskeato]

*aides. Not aids.

We and the British were never invited to 'discussions'. We were invited to sign a "scrap of paper" that had already been drawn up.

The Japanese Prime Minister wishes to express interest in the Portuguese proposal. We welcome the Portuguese to enter into more discrete discussion with our diplomats.

OOC: Yeah, hence me saying "Technically it's only an ally of the UK". Technically.

 

[KeldoniaSkylar]

The Kingdom of the Netherlands would like to clarify its position on the entire German Pacific Territories issue. The Dutch government placed an offer the German colonial holdings in Asia before the ultimatum was sent. The Dutch were only able to verify German willingness to proceed with such an agreement following the German acquiescence following Japanese ultimatum. The following this a the Kingdom of the Netherlands contacted the British government with its concerns over the possibility of such a treaty, to act as a guarantor of Dutch neutrality in the region as the Dutch government has concerns about the safety of the region given the current developments in Europe. Indeed the entire purpose of the treaty was to merely secure the safety of the Dutch East Indies by removing the potential threat of warfare in the region and neutralize the smallest of the potential belligerent's fleet by acquiring it and using it on anti-piracy duties in the region. The British government expressed concerns about the possible Japanese position on such a transfer and that the British would be unable to guarantee the Dutch against possible Japanese aggression. Following this discussion with the British government and after consulting with the German government, the Dutch government drafted a treaty that it believed would be beneficial to all involved parties this time including Japan. The treaty made provisions for the arbitration of any resulting territories final disposition after the war. Similarly, provisions were made that no payment for the transference sovereignty would occur until after the current conflict had be resolved, thus removing the possibility that there would be any material benefit until after the war - paid proportionally based on the final disposition of the territories. The United Kingdom and the Empire of Greater Japan were consulted in this treaty process to allow their nations to voice their concerns over the potential transfer of sovereignty and attempt to create a solution that all involved powers could agree upon, alas an agreement was unable to met. The Dutch government apologizes if any party thought that the intent was any different than that stated above. Additionally, the Dutch government asks, what nation would not enter an agreement that was beneficial?

However, the Dutch government holds no animosity towards either side in this affair, only regret that it could not close hostilities in the Pacific before they begin. Additionally, the Kingdom of the Netherlands is still open to offers of investment from all interested parties.

Van der Linden, Minister-President of the Kingdom of the Netherlands

OOC: I also wanted Samoa so I could make a Samoan Rugby team and win the gold medal for rugby in the next Olympic Games.

 

[jacob-Lundgren]

Were Sweden to be faced with a choice of accepting vital financial investment from either nation to complete a massive internal project we would have little hesitation. We have far more faith in the Germans lack of designs on any Swedish lands or our brothers around us than the Russians. As we are not currently asking for investment from outsiders this should of course not concern any nation.

 

[King50000]

The Kaiser sends his thanks to the Dutch Minister-President for clarifying the situation. The Empire would be more than glad to invest in the Netherlands, as well as Sweden, who is correct in the fact that the Empire lacks any wishes for territorial gains in Scandinavia.

 

[unmerged(54970)]

To the German Empire, as always making conclusion without asking first and accuse everyone except themselves of the current state of affairs. If they invade Belgium is something "vital" and doesn't matter if its bad, it only matter that is Germany's will. Now if there is a misunderstood of words, Germany starts yelling and shouting to everyone calling them barbarians and uncivilized, yet still they are the invaders, them and their Austro-Hungarian rats who are now in the process of invading Serbia, another small country who is victim of their imperialistic desires. We offer A-H peace before actual war started, and they refused, we offered Italy peace, and they refused, UK offered to stop your invasion of Belgium, and yet, you refused. It is easy to see, who are being barbaric.

To the Kingdom of Greece, our words are not unfounded. We are just making things clear. We offer you the path of what is good and just. Remember, during your independence war it was UK, France and Russia who sided with the Greek people, not the Germans, not the Austrians nor the Italians. You can join your Orthodox brothers, who fought and bleed for you, or you can join the Huns in their path of death and destruction.

To the Kingdom of Romania, we are glad that you accepted our deal, we shall write a treaty as soon as we are able to.

To the Kingdom of the Netherlands, we are waiting for an answer, if possible.

To the Kingdom of Sweden, we never offer to invest in your land, so we don't know why such words are coming to our ears.

 

[KeldoniaSkylar]

The Kingdom of the Netherlands is currently preparing a response to be discussed in private, such that a mutually beneficial agreement may be reached between both our countries.

Van der Linden, Minster-President of the Kingdom of the Netherlands

 

[DoomBunny]

The Greek Government advises that the Russians pick their next words very carefully. You have already insulted us twice, do not do it again.​

 

[King50000]

OOC: Really? Must we continue to bring up the invasion of Belgium? If we had started a month earlier, I wouldn't have invaded, but since we didn't I have no choice. I'm not going to rescend my dow and watch the General Staff riot (which Cesar said would happen no matter what if I did), I actually want to win (which I shall).

There was no misunderstanding of words. We were at the discussion talks, we heard the Japanese representative say that if the Netherlands did purchase our Asian colonies, Japan would consider it illegal and invade neutral Netherlands. They are both uncivilized and barbarians, because that is what they are. They hold no standing amongst the world as a true power, nor have they fully embraced the warm arms of westernization, something that even Russia, however surprising, has done. You did not offer peace before any "real" war began, you refused to accept the fact that the Austrian Archduke was assasinated by the Kingdom of Serbia, and instead seek to bully the just cause of the triple Alliance into submission.

As for Greece, you offer no such thing. Your cause is far from being "good and just" when its ranked are filled with nations such as Japan and Serbia. As well, it is not surprising that Germany could not assist Greece in her war for independence, as we were not a unified nation then. Italy was not a unified nation yet, and the Austrian Empire was divided over internal squables that were not solved until the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867. If any of the members of the Triple Alliance had been able or even existed at that time, we would have sent aid to the Greeks before even the Entente powers.

 

[unmerged(54970)]

OOC: Believe me, the whole Belgium thing was still being used in the 1920's and 1930's, and, well due to the lack of an update is almost all we can talk about it, im just trying to keep this game alive for everyone, don't know if ppl notice that i'm almost talking to everyone.

We are sure that if Japan joined the Central Powers, Germany would be know praising a possible Japanese invasion of the Asian colonies. Why? Because the German Empire is based on opportunism and pragmatism, the total lack of moral and ethic in the German Empire government has brought all the world to this. But what we can expect from such an arrogant Emperor who had the guts to fire the greatest Chancellor Germany ever had, Otto von Bismarck, just because he disliked him.

Then, regarding the Greeks, Germany is the legal successor of Prussia, Italy is such thing with the Kingdom of Sardinia, neither any of those or the A-H Empire sent a single bullet to help them, nothing. And yet you shout now to every corner of the earth "But if we were there we would fight until the bitter end", the thing is, you were able and you did nothing, France, UK and Russia, did, we fought, we bleed, and some of us died, but we did so, and for the independence of the Greeks.

On a final note, no, we are not allies with the Japanese, the members of the Triple Entente are, the United Kingdom, the Republic of France and the Russian Empire. If you are at war with the Japanese also, is something surely you brought to yourself and now is blaming Russia for it

 

[KeldoniaSkylar]

OOC: Red Cesar please clear your inbox

 

[reis91]

OOC: I would really, really like some stats, pretty please...

 

[Frymonmon]

Countries of the World - August 1914

The United Kingdom
Bank: +15000
Income: +7000
Trade Balance: +8000
Stability: 10
Industry: 550
Home Infrastructure: 18
Colonial Infrastructure: 9
Army
Regulars: 400,000
Conscripts: 150,000
Army Level: 8
Navy
Large Ships: 32
Small Ships: 145
Navy Level: 12
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 1
Air Force Level: 1
At War With: The German Empire, The Kingdom of Italy, The Austro-Hungarian Empire
Played by: King George V (Spitfire5793)

The German Empire
Bank: +7000
Income: +3500
Trade Balance: +350
Stability: 9
Industry: 510
Home Infrastructure: 16
Colonial Infrastructure: 0
Army
Regulars: 500,000
Conscripts: 0
Army Level: 10
Navy
Large Ships: 26
Small Ships: 45
Navy Level: 8
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: The Russian Empire, The Republic of France, The Kingdom of Belgium, The Kingdom of Serbia
Played by: Kaiser Wilhelm II (King50000)

The Republic of France
Bank: +4000
Income: +2500
Trade Balance: +550
Stability: 9
Industry: 485
Home Infrastructure: 15
Colonial Infrastructure: 5
Army
Regulars: 400,000
Conscripts: 50,000
Army Level: 9
Navy
Large Ships: 18
Small Ships: 65
Navy Level: 8
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: The German Empire, The Kingdom of Italy, The Austro-Hungarian Empire
Played by: President Raymond Poincaré (Syber)

The Austro-Hungarian Empire
Bank: +100
Income: +1900
Trade Balance: +150
Stability: 6
Industry: 350
Home Infrastructure: 13
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 350,000
Conscripts: 0
Army Level: 7
Navy
Large Ships: 7
Small Ships: 42
Navy Level: 7
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: The Russian Empire, The Republic of France, The Kingdom of Belgium, The Kingdom of Serbia
Played by: Kaiser Franz Joseph I (Frymonmon)

The United States of America
Bank: +30000
Income: +6500
Trade Balance: +1000
Stability: 10
Industry: 625
Home Infrastructure: 18
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 50,000
Conscripts: 100,000
Army Level: 9
Navy
Large Ships: 23
Small Ships: 65
Navy Level: 9
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: President Woodrow Wilson (Shynka)

The Russian Empire
Bank: +7000
Income: +2000
Trade Balance: +275
Stability: 8
Industry: 330
Home Infrastructure: 9
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 20,000
Conscripts: 450,000
Army Level: 6
Navy
Large Ships: 3
Small Ships: 31
Navy Level: 6
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: The German Empire, The Kingdom of Italy, The Austro-Hungarian Empire
Played by: Tsar Nicholas II (Congo)

The Kingdom of Sweden
Bank: +1000
Income: +750
Trade Balance: +75
Stability: 10
Industry: 250
Home Infrastructure: 10
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 30,000
Conscripts: 10,000
Army Level: 9
Navy
Large Ships: 5
Small Ships: 25
Navy Level: 8
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: King Gustaf V (jacob-Lundgren)

The Dominon of Canada
Bank: +100
Income: +50
Trade Balance: +100
Stability: 10
Industry: 100
Home Infrastructure: 7
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 50,000
Conscripts: 0
Army Level: 8
Navy
Large Ships: 2
Small Ships: 16
Navy Level: 8
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: Sir Robert Borden (Warluster)

The Kingdom of Greece
Bank: +100
Income: +65
Trade Balance: +100
Stability: 10
Industry: 150
Home Infrastructure: 7
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 35,000
Conscripts: 0
Army Level: 7
Navy
Large Ships: 1
Small Ships: 12
Navy Level: 6
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: King Constantine I (DoomBunny)

The Ottoman Empire
Bank: -500
Income: +250
Trade Balance: -50
Stability: 5
Industry: 175
Home Infrastructure: 5
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 100,000
Conscripts: 0
Army Level: 6
Navy
Large Ships: 6
Small Ships: 32
Navy Level: 6
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: Sultan Mehmed V (Thandros)

The Republic of China
Bank: +1000
Income: +500
Trade Balance: -100
Stability: 3
Industry: 10
Home Infrastructure: 3
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 3,000,000
Conscripts: 2,000,000
Army Level: 3
Navy
Large Ships: 13
Small Ships: 43
Navy Level: 3
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: President Yuan Shikai (Seek75)

The Greater Japanese Empire
Bank: +2000
Income: +650
Trade Balance: +120
Stability: 9
Industry: 55
Home Infrastructure: 7
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 2,500,000
Conscripts: 0
Army Level: 5
Navy
Large Ships: 9
Small Ships: 24
Navy Level: 5
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: The German Empire, The Kingdom of Italy, the Austro-Hungarian Empire
Played by: Emperor Taisho (Muskeato)

The Kingdom of the Netherlands
Bank: +3000
Income: +265
Trade Balance: +350
Stability: 8
Industry: 75
Home Infrastructure: 7
Colonial Infrastructure: 4
Army
Regulars: 35,000
Conscripts: 120,000
Army Level: 7
Navy
Large Ships: 6
Small Ships: 17
Navy Level: 6
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: Queen Wilhelmina (KeldoniaSkylar)

The Kingdom of Spain
Bank: +950
Income: +150
Trade Balance: +75
Stability: 7
Industry: 98
Home Infrastructure: 7
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 235,000
Conscripts: 50,000
Army Level: 6
Navy
Large Ships: 7
Small Ships: 11
Navy Level: 5
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: King Alfonso XIII (Mr. Santiago)

The Kingdom of Romania
Bank: +350
Income: +80
Trade Balance: +10
Stability: 6
Industry: 36
Home Infrastructure: 4
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 167,000
Conscripts: 10,000
Army Level: 6
Navy
Large Ships: 0
Small Ships: 18
Navy Level: 6
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: King Ferdinand I (Culise)

The Kingdom of Bulgaria
Bank: +360
Income: +77
Trade Balance: +8
Stability: 6
Industry: 54
Home Infrastructure: 6
Colonial Infrastructure: No Colonies
Army
Regulars: 178,000
Conscripts: 23,000
Army Level: 6
Navy
Large Ships: 0
Small Ships: 13
Navy Level: 7
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: King Ferdinand I (Shock3r)


The Kingdom of Italy
Bank: +3000
Income: +550
Trade Balance: +375
Stability: 9
Industry: 365
Home Infrastructure: 8
Colonial Infrastructure: 2
Army
Regulars: 340,000
Conscripts: 50,000
Army Level: 7
Navy
Large Ships: 11
Small Ships: 27
Navy Level: 7
Air Force
Bombers: N/A
Fighters: 0
Air Force Level: 0
At War With: None
Played by: King Victor Emmanuel III (Suriantes)

 

[Thandros]

OOC: Ouch that's a bad set on stats for me no wonder I'm Collapsing. I'm now not getting into this until at the very least I've got some money to spend. At the moment though Any one want to trade.

 

[Muskeato]

The Empire of Japan is willing to trade with the Ottomans, however due to current issues it may be several months before trade can begin properly.

OOC: By which I mean probably not until turn 3