Do we still need the duchy limit?

[Haccoude]

He don't hold any duchy in England. So simple as this. It's unimportant which land he hold. He never was duke in England.

Doesn't change the fact that in CK2 terms he was Duke of Anjou, just like Guy de Dampierre was Count of Flanders in history, but Duke of Flanders in Ck2.

 

[Thure]

Doesn't change the fact that in CK2 terms he was Duke of Anjou, just like Guy de Dampierre was Count of Flanders in history, but Duke of Flanders in Ck2.

Not really. The county of Anjou is ingame.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...1180-fr.svg/2000px-Map_France_1180-fr.svg.png

The county of Anjou at this time was not big enough to be a duchy alone. Toulouse, Flandern and Barcelona were.

 

[Haccoude]

Not really. The county of Anjou is ingame.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...1180-fr.svg/2000px-Map_France_1180-fr.svg.png

The county of Anjou at this time was not big enough to be a duchy alone. Toulouse, Flandern and Barcelona were.

Just checked and you are correct on that front. The CK2 Duchy of Anjou consists both of what on that map is marked as the County of Anjou and the County of Maine. Henry 2. was only Count of both Maine and Anjou, rather than Duke of the combined Anjou(-Maine).

 

[Ruwaard]

Not really. The county of Anjou is ingame.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...1180-fr.svg/2000px-Map_France_1180-fr.svg.png

The county of Anjou at this time was not big enough to be a duchy alone. Toulouse, Flandern and Barcelona were.

I think you mean Vlaanderen? Anyway size doesn't say everything and as time went on some where eventually elevated.

 

[Thure]

I think you mean Vlaanderen? Anyway size doesn't say everything and as time went on some where eventually elevated.

Actually I mean Flandern (German name of Flanders)

 

[pzyber]

The duchy limit is artificial. It forces you to hold counties without holding the duke title when you're at 10 or 12 (high stewardship, centralization). Two is too little.

Sound like there is a need for a too many counties without duchy titles opinion penalty.

As long as there isn't a hard cap I don't see a problem with the duchy penalty, a king should not hold all titles himself, and if he does people will be pissed off.