Change gods' names based on culture

killerbee256 · Nov 30, 2018

I posted this in the modding form but I haven't got a response so I'll post it here. Does anyone know where the files that change the names of the Hellenistic gods to the Greek versions if the ruler is Greek? I want to institute something similar for Germanic paganism so the names change to German, Gothic, Frisian, Saxon, Anglo-Saxon versions.

Code:

hellenic_pagan_reformed = {
        graphical_culture = hellenicgfx
        alternate_start = { always = no }
        interface_skin = { hellenic_interface }

        icon = 58
        heresy_icon = 59
     
        color = { 0.6 0.3 0.3 }
     
        high_god_name = GOD_JUPITER
     
        god_names = {
           GOD_JUPITER GOD_NEPTUNE GOD_PLUTO GOD_JUNO GOD_CERES GOD_MINERVA GOD_MARS GOD_VULCAN GOD_VENUS GOD_APOLLO GOD_DIANA GOD_VESTA
        }
        evil_god_names = {
            GOD_SATURN GOD_BACCHUS GOD_PLUTO GOD_MERCURY
        }
       # Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Ares, Aphrodite, Hephaestus, Hermes, and either Hestia or Dionysus.
        crusade_name = GREAT_HOLY_WAR
        scripture_name = THE_LEGENDS
        priest_title = AUGUR
     
        priests_can_marry = no
        priests_can_inherit = no
        female_temple_holders = yes
     
        can_call_crusade = yes
        join_crusade_if_bordering_hostile = yes
     
        religious_clothing_head = 12
        religious_clothing_priest = 11
     
        allow_in_ruler_designer = no
    }

I found this note in 00_religions.txt but it's not the code that changes the names.

GOD_GREEK_JUPITER;Zeús;Zeus;Zeus;;Zeus;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_POSEIDON;Poseidon;Poséidon;Poseidon;;Poseidón;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_HADES;Hades;Hadès;Hades;;Hades;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_HERA;Hera;Héra;Hera;;Hera;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_DEMETRA;Demetra;Déméter;Demetra;;Deméter;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_ATHENA;Athena;Athéna;Athena;;Atenea;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_ARES;Ares;Arès;Ares;;Ares;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_HEPHAESTUS;Hephaestus;Héphaïstos;Hephaistos;;Hefesto;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_APHRODITE;Aphrodite;Aphrodite;Aphrodite;;Afrodita;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_APOLLO;Apollo;Apollon;Apollo;;Apolo;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_ARTEMIS;Artemis;Artémis;Artemis;;Artemisa;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_HESTIA;Hestia;Hestia;Hestia;;Hestia;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_KRONOS;Kronos;Cronos;Kronos;;Cronos;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_DIONYSUS;Dionysus;Dionysos;Dionysus;;Dionisio;;;;;;;;;x
GOD_HERMES;Hermes;Hermès;Hermes;;Hermes;;;;;;;;;x

I found this in HolyFury.csv

Dakilla TM · Nov 30, 2018

You should apply this for the Germanic pagans. Odin should be Wotan for Saxons and so on.

killerbee256 · Nov 30, 2018

Dakilla TM said:
You should apply this for the Germanic pagans. Odin should be Wotan for Saxons and so on.

That's the plan, I found the code in 00_scripted_effects.txt

Code:

            if = { #A ruler reforms Hellenism while being Greek-cultured: change all the gods to their Greek names.
                limit = {
                    has_dlc = "Holy Fury"
                    religion = hellenic_pagan_reformed
                    culture = greek
                }
                remove_god_names = yes
                remove_evil_god_names = yes
                set_global_flag = flag_hellenic_greek_reformation #Handles other instances.
                if = { #Religion is not sexist, re-add all the gods.
                    limit = {
                        NOR = {
                            has_religion_feature = religion_matriarchal
                            has_religion_feature = religion_patriarchal
                        }
                    }
                    if = { #Poseidon finally gets his due.
                        limit = {
                            has_religion_feature = religion_seafaring
                        }
                        set_high_god_name = GOD_POSEIDON
                    }
                    if = {
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_seafaring }
                        }
                        set_high_god_name = GOD_GREEK_JUPITER #Otherwise shows Conclave...
                    }
                    if = { #Dogmatics only get one
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_dogmatic }
                        }
                        add_god_name = GOD_GREEK_JUPITER_2 #Otherwise shows Conclave...
                        add_god_name = GOD_POSEIDON_2
                        add_god_name = GOD_HADES
                        add_god_name = GOD_HERA
                        add_god_name = GOD_DEMETRA
                        add_god_name = GOD_ATHENA
                        add_god_name = GOD_ARES
                        add_god_name = GOD_HEPHAESTUS
                        add_god_name = GOD_APHRODITE
                        add_god_name = GOD_APOLLO
                        add_god_name = GOD_ARTEMIS
                        add_god_name = GOD_HESTIA
                    }
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_HADES
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_KRONOS
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_DIONYSUS
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_HERMES
                }
                if = { #Religion is Patriarchal.
                    limit = {
                        has_religion_feature = religion_patriarchal
                    }
                    if = { #Poseidon finally gets his due.
                        limit = {
                            has_religion_feature = religion_seafaring
                        }
                        set_high_god_name = GOD_POSEIDON
                    }
                    if = {
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_seafaring }
                        }
                        set_high_god_name = GOD_GREEK_JUPITER #Otherwise shows Conclave...
                    }
                    if = { #Dogmatics only get one
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_dogmatic }
                        }
                        add_god_name = GOD_GREEK_JUPITER_2 #Otherwise shows Conclave...
                        add_god_name = GOD_POSEIDON_2
                        add_god_name = GOD_HADES
                        add_god_name = GOD_ARES
                        add_god_name = GOD_HEPHAESTUS
                        add_god_name = GOD_APOLLO
                    }
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_APHRODITE
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_HERA
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_ATHENA
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_ARTEMIS
                }
                if = { #Religion is Matriarchal.
                    limit = {
                        has_religion_feature = religion_matriarchal
                    }
                    set_high_god_name = GOD_HERA
                    add_god_name = GOD_HERA_2
                    if = { #Dogmatics only get one
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_dogmatic }
                        }
                        add_god_name = GOD_DEMETRA
                        add_god_name = GOD_ATHENA
                        add_god_name = GOD_APHRODITE
                        add_god_name = GOD_ARTEMIS
                        add_god_name = GOD_HESTIA
                    }
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_HADES
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_GREEK_JUPITER #Otherwise shows Conclave...
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_POSEIDON
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_ARES
                }
            }
            if = { #A ruler reforms Hellenism while NOT being Greek-cultured.
                limit = {
                    has_dlc = "Holy Fury"
                    religion = hellenic_pagan_reformed
                    NOT = { culture = greek }
                }
                remove_god_names = yes
                remove_evil_god_names = yes
                if = { #Religion is not sexist, re-add all the gods.
                    limit = {
                        NOR = {
                            has_religion_feature = religion_matriarchal
                            has_religion_feature = religion_patriarchal
                        }
                    }
                    if = { #Poseidon finally gets his due.
                        limit = {
                            has_religion_feature = religion_seafaring
                        }
                        set_high_god_name = GOD_NEPTUNE
                    }
                    if = {
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_seafaring }
                        }
                        set_high_god_name = GOD_JUPITER
                    }
                    if = { #Dogmatics only get one
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_dogmatic }
                        }
                        add_god_name = GOD_JUPITER_2
                        add_god_name = GOD_NEPTUNE_2
                        add_god_name = GOD_PLUTO
                        add_god_name = GOD_JUNO
                        add_god_name = GOD_CERES
                        add_god_name = GOD_MINERVA
                        add_god_name = GOD_MARS
                        add_god_name = GOD_VULCAN
                        add_god_name = GOD_VENUS
                        add_god_name = GOD_APOLLO
                        add_god_name = GOD_DIANA
                        add_god_name = GOD_VESTA
                    }
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_SATURN
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_PLUTO
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_BACCHUS
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_MERCURY
                }
                if = { #Religion is Patriarchal.
                    limit = {
                        has_religion_feature = religion_patriarchal
                    }
                    if = { #Poseidon finally gets his due.
                        limit = {
                            has_religion_feature = religion_seafaring
                        }
                        set_high_god_name = GOD_NEPTUNE
                    }
                    if = {
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_seafaring }
                        }
                        set_high_god_name = GOD_JUPITER
                    }
                    if = { #Dogmatics only get one
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_dogmatic }
                        }
                        add_god_name = GOD_JUPITER_2
                        add_god_name = GOD_NEPTUNE_2
                        add_god_name = GOD_PLUTO
                        add_god_name = GOD_MARS
                        add_god_name = GOD_VULCAN
                        add_god_name = GOD_APOLLO
                    }
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_VENUS
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_JUNO
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_MINERVA
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_DIANA
                }
                if = { #Religion is Matriarchal.
                    limit = {
                        has_religion_feature = religion_matriarchal
                    }
                    set_high_god_name = GOD_JUNO
                    add_god_name = GOD_JUNO_2
                    if = { #Dogmatics only get one
                        limit = {
                            NOT = { has_religion_feature = religion_dogmatic }
                        }
                        add_god_name = GOD_CERES
                        add_god_name = GOD_MINERVA
                        add_god_name = GOD_VENUS
                        add_god_name = GOD_DIANA
                        add_god_name = GOD_VESTA
                    }
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_PLUTO
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_JUPITER
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_NEPTUNE
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_MARS
                }
            }

I figure I'll need to make a new version of this for every Germanic culture.

redtide · Nov 30, 2018

BjornB said:
God Names
Dynamic god names have been temporarily commented out pending a fix on the commands that they use in game.

Not sure what effects this has.

Elden · Nov 30, 2018

Hopefully it will be patched to actually work soon. Can't wait to play Hellenic Greeks without the immersion breaking Roman names!

killerbee256 · Nov 30, 2018

redtide said:
Not sure what effects this has.

I took a look at the code for Hellenistic events, they're set up in a special way so that gods names change in the events, I guess they are having issues with the code so they disabled it. Which means I might as well wait until they get it fixed.

aono · Nov 30, 2018

killerbee256 said:
Does anyone know where the files that change the names of the Hellenistic gods to the Greek versions if the ruler is Greek?

I believe you'll need to reform religion as a greek, it's not like roman rulers and greek rulers of the same religion would use different names (right?).

...and sorry, I didn't played hellenic yet, maybe I misunderstand something?

Code:

                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_HADES
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_KRONOS
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_DIONYSUS
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_HERMES

Hades? Dionysus? Hermes?! Evil?
What.

Chakigel · Nov 30, 2018

aono said:

Code:

                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_HADES
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_KRONOS
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_DIONYSUS
                    add_evil_god_name = GOD_HERMES

Hades? Dionysus? Hermes?! Evil?
What.

Yeah, I didn't understand that either, I guess Kronos and Hades since they tried to kill the king of the gods and the other for being the ruler of the underworld respectively, with the latter being due to the influence of Christianity?
But Hermes and Dionysus I can't see why, Hermes was even kind of worshipped in the west for centuries after in the Hermetic societies.

aono · Nov 30, 2018

I can get Kronos, ok.
Hades is a brother of Zeus and, hell, venerated god. You don't want to piss off a judge of Underworld! Actually, Christians made a God to rule afterlife as well. Well, ok, Hades is dark, and... unpleasant as a character, and things like that, he even stole his wife.

But Hermes?! Hermes was a god of craftsmen and trade. He is a peacemaker. He gifted humans numbers and writing. He gives human the will of gods. He was a protector of travellers. He gave humanity wit to discern good from evil (by Zeus order). In a nutshell, Hermes was a god of human civilization!
Of course, he also was a god of lawyers. That's bad, I agree.

Duskwave · Nov 30, 2018

Apparently Hellenism's Satanist-equivalents are Bacchants. Which... I guess they were going for the Maenads and "debauchery messes you up" thing, and I can kind of see how the "god of outsiders, foreigners, rebels" thing as perceived by an Imperial government can make that a thing, but it's a stretch, and the Bacchus-Dionysus equivalence only goes so far, so... yeah. And Hades... well, he's not supposed to be an evil god, but most people find him scary and/or creepy and would prefer to avoid his influence, so sure ok. No clue on Hermes there though, what the hell.

thevmag · Nov 30, 2018

Chakigel said:
Yeah, I didn't understand that either, I guess Kronos and Hades since they tried to kill the king of the gods and the other for being the ruler of the underworld respectively, with the latter being due to the influence of Christianity?
But Hermes and Dionysus I can't see why, Hermes was even kind of worshipped in the west for centuries after in the Hermetic societies.

So, I disabled satanists because the implementation in-game is just silly, but the Hermetic Order seems like a great stand-in for the evil cult.

Wait, what?

Yeah, they made a great evil cut. No fly-festered hunchbacks wearing skulls and chanting evil mind-control spells. Just a coven of old farts and their young, sexy apprentices, digging into forbidden and heretical knowledge, getting high, trying to talk to the spirits. For my romuva characters, I took it as an attempt to better understand the will of the spirits through the stars, to become closer to Dievas. But every once in a while, a fellow would be burned at the stake for being an apostate, and I'd be reminded that my Christian brothers and sisters were literally in a secret cult devoted to a pagan god, giving thanks and offering in the name of Hermes for knowledge in opposition to Christian theology. And sometimes getting high and getting in fights in big debates.

Now that's an evil cult. Works great for Christians, less so or Hellenics, though.

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