You have to survive hordes , you are lucky if Poland only concedes defeat as their vassal will get munched otherwise , which means 40 to 50 golden horde regiments on you by 1410
What do you mean by "easily"? It is certainly easier than PU - for PU you need to wait until it's possible. With Ottomans you just declare Holy War on colonizers, so by 1430 you can easily eliminate colonizers simply by taking all their ports, annexing them completely or just by ruining them. Hordes should have no effect on that - I don't think there's much point in trying to absorb hordes that early.
Ottomans only border Timurids and Timurids have enough enemies to fight and they are happy to accept concession of defeat. Neither GH nor QK have any realistic way to get a border with you if you don't want it. So it's a player's choice whether fight hordes or not (and I don't think it's worth fighting them early on).You have to take out Castille, Portugal, France, and England fairly quickly. That's with dealing with one, possibly two, hordes with insanely large armies (not saying it isn't possible, but it makes it difficult to focus on Western Europe that early).
You need few years to build up your navy, but there's no big rush. If you take Portugal by 1415 you don't need to worry about others for another 20 years or so.And you'd have trouble getting there due to having a worse navy and all that. Plus Western Europe's love for the Anatolian peninsula.
PUs give you no guarantees. I am not sure what are the chances of inheriting all of them before 1500, but my feeling is that chances are quite slimThe thing with PUs is you don't have to do it quick (though that certainly helps). As long as it happens eventually you'll still get all their land without infamy, possibly even with their own colonial empires.
That would only give GH border to Bulgaria and since they won't have a border with you the war will end after one day.GH usually gets a border pretty quickly since AI Poland tends to lose to the GH.
Since the thread is about best WC country, I'm assuming WC should be finished by early 1500, so you can't wait until 1820 - if you are ready to wait until 1820 (almost) any country would do.And it doesn't matter if you inherit before 1500. You only need to do it before 1820, which is easily possible.
Since the thread is about best WC country, I'm assuming WC should be finished by early 1500, so you can't wait until 1820 - if you are ready to wait until 1820 (almost) any country would do.
You would need to somehow quantify "easy" to make comparisons. "Fast" correlates well with "easy" and it's also easy to measure I am not sure what else you could use as a metric. Possibly, the game play time (how much real time was spent to achieve WC), but it's dependent on the player and awkward to measure.I didn't realize best meant fastest. I thought it meant easiest.
You would need to somehow quantify "easy" to make comparisons. "Fast" correlates well with "easy" and it's also easy to measure I am not sure what else you could use as a metric. Possibly, the game play time (how much real time was spent to achieve WC), but it's dependent on the player and awkward to measure.
Doing WC by 1500 is definitely hard. There's another thread going on about whether it's even possible. It appears that the list of nations [possibly] capable of doing WC by 1500 is pretty short.I understand what you mean, but I think it would be a bit harder, or at least a lot more complex, to do a WC by 1500.
I think GH might be the bet. Ottomans are also on a short list. I did a test run with them, the main problem is shortage of diplomats, but as I played I was discovering some ways of dealing with it. For example, if you keep you gold low all the time someone irrelevant would ask you to give them gold and release some vassals you would want to release anyway - that's one (or more) diplomats you won't have to use. It also helps to plan what provinces of your target to occupy - you may get suitable peace offer from them thus saving you a diplomat. With all that I'm still not certain if there will be enough diplomats to finish by 1500. Perhaps dismantling HRE should be the first priority - it should help reducing number of nations.GH ? and it's still theory , no one tried it or came close enough AFAIK.
How would you take the rest of the world with the Ottomans? I can see how it is easy to stop the colonizers but you can't use holy war to the east/south/southwest. What would be the plan to finish by 1500 there? Or is the plan to use every cheesy tactic possible? If that is the plan, the Ottomans wouldn't be in any better position than any other of the big ones. Or am I missing something here?Ottomans are also on a short list. I did a test run with them, the main problem is shortage of diplomats, but as I played I was discovering some ways of dealing with it. For example, if you keep you gold low all the time someone irrelevant would ask you to give them gold and release some vassals you would want to release anyway - that's one (or more) diplomats you won't have to use. It also helps to plan what provinces of your target to occupy - you may get suitable peace offer from them thus saving you a diplomat. With all that I'm still not certain if there will be enough diplomats to finish by 1500. Perhaps dismantling HRE should be the first priority - it should help reducing number of nations.
How would you take the rest of the world with the Ottomans? I can see how it is easy to stop the colonizers but you can't use holy war to the east/south/southwest. What would be the plan to finish by 1500 there? Or is the plan to use every cheesy tactic possible? If that is the plan, the Ottomans wouldn't be in any better position than any other of the big ones. Or am I missing something here?
Ottomans have HW on many eastern nations - there aren't that many muslim non-hordes in the game. Nevertheless I would assume that cheesy tactic will be required to finish by 1500.How would you take the rest of the world with the Ottomans? I can see how it is easy to stop the colonizers but you can't use holy war to the east/south/southwest. What would be the plan to finish by 1500 there? Or is the plan to use every cheesy tactic possible?
Ottomans start with a better tech, have better units, quickly get better units. They have much less infamy to burn (in comparison to Christian nations) and burning infamy (even with cheesy tactics) costs diplomats.If that is the plan, the Ottomans wouldn't be in any better position than any other of the big ones. Or am I missing something here?