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Very nice. Even better than Chagatai Khanate. Any possibility of repeating Alexander the Great conquest campaign?
Very interesting game you're playing. And I can't believe the size of Poland! I see them get Brandenburg, Prussia, and Pommern routinely but their achievement in your game is incredible!
No, no New Empire of Alexander. Probly could though with the combined manpower of Russia and Austria at my back(plus they like each other which is a bonus).
Yes Poland went nuts, Annexed(Diplomaticly at that) Bohemia, Brandenburg, TO and a large The Palataine. Chances are theres going to be a war between my Alliance and Poland with the partition of Poland events later in the game.
Yes Poland went nuts, Annexed(Diplomaticly at that) Bohemia, Brandenburg, TO and a large The Palataine. Chances are theres going to be a war between my Alliance and Poland with the partition of Poland events later in the game.
Nice little niche empire your Greeks have carved up. It seems that the Catholics are kicking the Protestants' collective rears in europe. Not sure if that helps or hurts the Orthodox.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Nice AAR. One question though: isn't your signature over the 10 line limit? (spoiler)
Stroph1:Yes that seems to be a reoccuring theme in my most recent games, the protestants just dont seem to be able to get a foothold(side note:except for a few breif periods England is Catholic in my game...)
juszuf7:Heh possibly, but no ones said anything yet.
juszuf7:Heh possibly, but no ones said anything yet.
The Greek Inquisition
When Hellas took Kastumonu they aquired quite a large Moslim population with it, the Romanus was more then happy to leave the situation as it was but a number of rebellions sprang up from the unruly moslims that they finnaly conceded something had to be done. In January of 1649 the Romanus, with backing from the Patriarch in Constantinople, decreed that a grand inquisition would be sent to Kastumonu to properly bring the turks into the fold. Converting the turkish population would be no easy task, and the inquisition only cause rebellions to spring up more often then before, the largest portion of the peace time army was stationed in Kastumonu, and stayed well after the inquisition was over. In total the offical inquisition took ten years to compleate, but unoffical(without government support) inquisitors continued to rover the country side bringing the moslims into the fold with any means at their disposal, this continued to agitate the moslim minority for several more years and required a large military presence to deter any uprisings.
After the inquisition Hellas settled into a preiod of realitive peace. With their northern border made up of their closest allies, its eastern one of woefully backwards turkish lands the greeks were content to settle down for the time being. But every era needs its heros, and when there was no battle to provide them they were created in new ways. Some enterprising young entrepenuers gained a commision from the Romanus to establish the first greek colony in Nouadibuh, dubed "New Hellas", on the west african coast in 1672. The colony grew quickly and soon spilled over into Nouakchott(New Thrace) and after than Louga(New Ionia). The southward expansion along the african coast was only caped by the French presenace in Senegal. Unable to expand further in africa the explorer/merchants discovered the Cape Verde islands, establishing the colony of New Morea there. New Morea would become the staging point for further expiditions west wards, culminating in the establishment of New Macedonia in Tiracambu, on the South American continent in the fall of 1706.
This period of peacful colonial expansion would come to an abrupt end in 1708, wars would engulf the new century and such a lengthy period of peace would not be seen for several centuries.
When Hellas took Kastumonu they aquired quite a large Moslim population with it, the Romanus was more then happy to leave the situation as it was but a number of rebellions sprang up from the unruly moslims that they finnaly conceded something had to be done. In January of 1649 the Romanus, with backing from the Patriarch in Constantinople, decreed that a grand inquisition would be sent to Kastumonu to properly bring the turks into the fold. Converting the turkish population would be no easy task, and the inquisition only cause rebellions to spring up more often then before, the largest portion of the peace time army was stationed in Kastumonu, and stayed well after the inquisition was over. In total the offical inquisition took ten years to compleate, but unoffical(without government support) inquisitors continued to rover the country side bringing the moslims into the fold with any means at their disposal, this continued to agitate the moslim minority for several more years and required a large military presence to deter any uprisings.
After the inquisition Hellas settled into a preiod of realitive peace. With their northern border made up of their closest allies, its eastern one of woefully backwards turkish lands the greeks were content to settle down for the time being. But every era needs its heros, and when there was no battle to provide them they were created in new ways. Some enterprising young entrepenuers gained a commision from the Romanus to establish the first greek colony in Nouadibuh, dubed "New Hellas", on the west african coast in 1672. The colony grew quickly and soon spilled over into Nouakchott(New Thrace) and after than Louga(New Ionia). The southward expansion along the african coast was only caped by the French presenace in Senegal. Unable to expand further in africa the explorer/merchants discovered the Cape Verde islands, establishing the colony of New Morea there. New Morea would become the staging point for further expiditions west wards, culminating in the establishment of New Macedonia in Tiracambu, on the South American continent in the fall of 1706.
This period of peacful colonial expansion would come to an abrupt end in 1708, wars would engulf the new century and such a lengthy period of peace would not be seen for several centuries.
Wow...that is interesting...A peaceful Hellas colonizing Africa...very nice. Well done!
Years of War
The colonizing spree of the last 17th century would be halted by war, Austria had long coveted the meager possesions Albania had scraped togeather in the last hundred years or so, and had fought several wars with the aim of stripping them from Albiana. But to no avail, Albania and Venice had been able to hold off the advances of the Greek alliance, until now. The Albanians were cought under a unresistible onslaught in 1708, Austrian armys invaded from Serbia and Bosnia, Greek forces attack Albania itself from Macedonia and Hellas, the war soon devolved into seige war fare with the majority of Albanian soldiers cast to the winds. There were attempts by Hellas to seize Crete from Venice but the large Vencian Navy and Fortifications cept the Island safe for the time being. When all was said and done Austria made out with the strategic port of Ragusa in 1710.
The greeks were again willing to settle down to old patterns of colonization. South American lands beconed, many gained fame and fortune there, many more perished in the depths of the Amazon. Colonizing was at its peak when Austria again moved against Albania in 1735. This was fallowed much the same pattern as the last, Austrians from the North, Greeks from the East, with minor skirmishes in the Cretian Sea between Vencian and the combined Greek-Austrian fleet. By summer 1737 all Albanian possesions were under allied control and they were forced again to cede territory to the Austria, relinquishing Damalita, granting the Austrians a thrid port in the Balkans. With their strategic aim compleate the Austrias were content for the moment and the alliance again entered a period of peace and colonization/exploration on the part of Hellas and Russia. Hellas was exploring the depths of the Amazon, and expidition made it all the way to the lands of the Inca, but with the death of their leader the majority of the men were doomed, set upon by the hostile tribes they had ecountered, only a company of 12 men out of two thousand managed to make it back to the safety of Marjo.
A new contest was brewing in the North, Russia and Sweden had long butted heads and they renewed hostilities in October of 1768. This brought England into the frey and set the scene for the Greeks first colonial war. While the Russians fought the swedes in the north the Greeks took it upon themselves to attack English and Swedish holdings in South America and West Africa. Colonial armies from New Macedonia attacked and seized the English province of Parnaiba and the port of Newtown. Likewise armies in africa sailed to the Swedish possesion of Dakar and seized the town of Fastning Christina. They also took trading posts in Gambia and Casimace. All together the war lasted just under 6 years and ended with the Swedes paying considerable sums to all members of the Greek alliance. The swedes were not happy with the outcome of the war and again attacked the Greek alliance in August of 1776. The Swedes had been making inroads into the Mediterranean for the past 50 years, taking Tangeris, Fez, and Kabylia. After the War with the Greek alliance Sweden fell upon Karaman, as had the Mameluks and Hedjaz, all conspiritors made out with land and Karaman was wiped from the earth. With swedish territory in Antalyia the scope of the war changed, along with the back and forth colonial battles the Greeks had a new front close to home to deal with. Luckly for the Greeks both Austria and Wallachia contributed troops to beating back the Swedish advance in Asia Minor. In south America the war with England was reduced to the Greek and English armys watching each other from across the Panaima River, neither side wishing to risk open combat.
The Second War with Sweden was only a thrid of the length of the first, and in January 11, 1778 sweden was forced to pay even larger indimenities to the Greek Alliance. The greeks would have precious little time between wars, but the next one they were more then prepaired for.
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African Holdings
East Europe 1746
The colonizing spree of the last 17th century would be halted by war, Austria had long coveted the meager possesions Albania had scraped togeather in the last hundred years or so, and had fought several wars with the aim of stripping them from Albiana. But to no avail, Albania and Venice had been able to hold off the advances of the Greek alliance, until now. The Albanians were cought under a unresistible onslaught in 1708, Austrian armys invaded from Serbia and Bosnia, Greek forces attack Albania itself from Macedonia and Hellas, the war soon devolved into seige war fare with the majority of Albanian soldiers cast to the winds. There were attempts by Hellas to seize Crete from Venice but the large Vencian Navy and Fortifications cept the Island safe for the time being. When all was said and done Austria made out with the strategic port of Ragusa in 1710.
The greeks were again willing to settle down to old patterns of colonization. South American lands beconed, many gained fame and fortune there, many more perished in the depths of the Amazon. Colonizing was at its peak when Austria again moved against Albania in 1735. This was fallowed much the same pattern as the last, Austrians from the North, Greeks from the East, with minor skirmishes in the Cretian Sea between Vencian and the combined Greek-Austrian fleet. By summer 1737 all Albanian possesions were under allied control and they were forced again to cede territory to the Austria, relinquishing Damalita, granting the Austrians a thrid port in the Balkans. With their strategic aim compleate the Austrias were content for the moment and the alliance again entered a period of peace and colonization/exploration on the part of Hellas and Russia. Hellas was exploring the depths of the Amazon, and expidition made it all the way to the lands of the Inca, but with the death of their leader the majority of the men were doomed, set upon by the hostile tribes they had ecountered, only a company of 12 men out of two thousand managed to make it back to the safety of Marjo.
A new contest was brewing in the North, Russia and Sweden had long butted heads and they renewed hostilities in October of 1768. This brought England into the frey and set the scene for the Greeks first colonial war. While the Russians fought the swedes in the north the Greeks took it upon themselves to attack English and Swedish holdings in South America and West Africa. Colonial armies from New Macedonia attacked and seized the English province of Parnaiba and the port of Newtown. Likewise armies in africa sailed to the Swedish possesion of Dakar and seized the town of Fastning Christina. They also took trading posts in Gambia and Casimace. All together the war lasted just under 6 years and ended with the Swedes paying considerable sums to all members of the Greek alliance. The swedes were not happy with the outcome of the war and again attacked the Greek alliance in August of 1776. The Swedes had been making inroads into the Mediterranean for the past 50 years, taking Tangeris, Fez, and Kabylia. After the War with the Greek alliance Sweden fell upon Karaman, as had the Mameluks and Hedjaz, all conspiritors made out with land and Karaman was wiped from the earth. With swedish territory in Antalyia the scope of the war changed, along with the back and forth colonial battles the Greeks had a new front close to home to deal with. Luckly for the Greeks both Austria and Wallachia contributed troops to beating back the Swedish advance in Asia Minor. In south America the war with England was reduced to the Greek and English armys watching each other from across the Panaima River, neither side wishing to risk open combat.
The Second War with Sweden was only a thrid of the length of the first, and in January 11, 1778 sweden was forced to pay even larger indimenities to the Greek Alliance. The greeks would have precious little time between wars, but the next one they were more then prepaired for.
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African Holdings
East Europe 1746
I didn't see that you got anything out of those wars. Did you? I looked through your report, but it sure didn't seem like it, other than money that is...no territory that I saw. Still a great update though!
I bet he counts on Austria stripping Albania off all her conquests and then conquering Albania for himself... And, of course, colonization can be more profitable in terms of land, while does not hurt your bb.
Just money, I attempted to get Crete from Venice. Other then that I didnt want land, it was generaly the wrong religion and culture in the case of Albania(Buggers converted Albania) and Sweden.
enjoying your AAR. I had the urge to do a greek (EUII) AAR before but things kept coming up.
EDIT: I already did a GReek AAR
EDIT: I already did a GReek AAR
Conquest and Rebellions
In October of 1787 Hellas declared war on the Venecian/Albanian allaince with the aims of seizing Crete from the Italians. For Albania it would be their last war, by 1788 they were annexed by the Austrians. The war with Venice would last two more years of naval battles and coastal invasion longer. By wars end many of most of the Alliance members were streched thin, including Hellas, and renewed hostilities with Sweden in the Spring of 1789 complicated maters. Venice eventualy relinquished Crete to Hellas for peace, and the alliance again fell into old patters with their old foe Sweden. Five years after the comencement the war was over, and no lands or currency chaanged hands, but both sides were weakend at differnt degrees. In Russia Crimea and Georgia were again free states, if for a short time. In south america a bizzare rebellion had taken place.
New Kaffa, one of the newest colonies in South America and just south of New Macedonia had broken into rebellion during the war, and threats from Sweden had kept the Colonial Regiments from putting them down. The one characteristic of the rebellion that made it quite odd was the size of the colony, just over 100 citizens in its largest city. This perhaps helped the rebellion, but it was still strange that such a small colony could gain recognization as the country of Brazil thruout Europe, this was indeed a indicator of the relations between Greece and the majority of Catholic West Europe. Lasting less then a year(December 1, 1794-October 6,1795) the republic of Brazil gained a metoric rise in popularity in western europe, but their David would be crushed by the Greek Golaith once the war with Sweden was compleate.
Sweden repeatedly engaged the Greek allaince for the next decade, and much like before nothing would come of these wars but death and destruction, and Sweden inevitably paying large sums to the Greek allaince. But Sweden was quickly becoming a side attraction, a new threat was on the horizon. West and East were on a course for a moumental confrontation. Long divided and bickering the Catholic powers of England, Spain, and France kept out of eastern european affairs for the most part, but with the compentition of Greek colonies in the Americas and Africa relations between the opposing points of the compass rose soon soured, and the three powers soon joined in league with the Polish bohemouth that had dominated from France to Russia for over a century. This catholic coalition, with itss figure head in Rome, began prepairing for the great confrontation between east and west. As did the Eastern Alliance of Wallachia, Austria, Hellas, Armenia and Russia. Only the fates knew when these two opposing forces would collide.
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East Europe 1810
West Europe 1810
African Holdings 1810
South American Holdings 1810
In October of 1787 Hellas declared war on the Venecian/Albanian allaince with the aims of seizing Crete from the Italians. For Albania it would be their last war, by 1788 they were annexed by the Austrians. The war with Venice would last two more years of naval battles and coastal invasion longer. By wars end many of most of the Alliance members were streched thin, including Hellas, and renewed hostilities with Sweden in the Spring of 1789 complicated maters. Venice eventualy relinquished Crete to Hellas for peace, and the alliance again fell into old patters with their old foe Sweden. Five years after the comencement the war was over, and no lands or currency chaanged hands, but both sides were weakend at differnt degrees. In Russia Crimea and Georgia were again free states, if for a short time. In south america a bizzare rebellion had taken place.
New Kaffa, one of the newest colonies in South America and just south of New Macedonia had broken into rebellion during the war, and threats from Sweden had kept the Colonial Regiments from putting them down. The one characteristic of the rebellion that made it quite odd was the size of the colony, just over 100 citizens in its largest city. This perhaps helped the rebellion, but it was still strange that such a small colony could gain recognization as the country of Brazil thruout Europe, this was indeed a indicator of the relations between Greece and the majority of Catholic West Europe. Lasting less then a year(December 1, 1794-October 6,1795) the republic of Brazil gained a metoric rise in popularity in western europe, but their David would be crushed by the Greek Golaith once the war with Sweden was compleate.
Sweden repeatedly engaged the Greek allaince for the next decade, and much like before nothing would come of these wars but death and destruction, and Sweden inevitably paying large sums to the Greek allaince. But Sweden was quickly becoming a side attraction, a new threat was on the horizon. West and East were on a course for a moumental confrontation. Long divided and bickering the Catholic powers of England, Spain, and France kept out of eastern european affairs for the most part, but with the compentition of Greek colonies in the Americas and Africa relations between the opposing points of the compass rose soon soured, and the three powers soon joined in league with the Polish bohemouth that had dominated from France to Russia for over a century. This catholic coalition, with itss figure head in Rome, began prepairing for the great confrontation between east and west. As did the Eastern Alliance of Wallachia, Austria, Hellas, Armenia and Russia. Only the fates knew when these two opposing forces would collide.
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East Europe 1810
West Europe 1810
African Holdings 1810
South American Holdings 1810
Wow
Glad to see Greece doing so well! My own Greek AAR didnt go so well, ended up being anexed around 1460 or 70ish, although I managed to carve myself a nice empire at one point
Glad to see Greece doing so well! My own Greek AAR didnt go so well, ended up being anexed around 1460 or 70ish, although I managed to carve myself a nice empire at one point
Wow! Brazil! I've never seen that one before in one of my games....very cool. Nicely written and those bloody Swedes really need a good pounding. They should not be interfering in the affairs of Eastern Europe!
Yes those Swedes had an odd vendeta against me or my alliance, they even expanded into the Med to get at us(Thanks to Poland, Sweden and Russia didnt have a commen border). Didnt have the foggiest as to why. Guess their aquisition of Teke made them want more of Asia Minor, but I dunno.
Fall of the Republic
The preperations for the upcoming war both sides new were comming went on for several years, Greece strengthened its navy in terms of ships and tactics, Colonial Regiments were doubled in both Africa and South America, as were their naval detachments, the main greek army was also expanded, and two new ones were created. The other members of the Eastern Alliance also prepaired, both Austria and Russias extensive borders with Poland were garrisoned at ever increasing numbers, Wallachias armed forces were also expanded, but along with Armenia they would play a minor role in the war, they just didnt have the resources Austria, Hellas our Russia could call upon. On the other side of the spectrum in the Western Allies expansion of their respective armed forces also increase, but not to the extent of the Easterns, they were blind with power, and rightfuly so, they could feild huge armys and navies and their empires spaned the globe, and with the Polish on their side they felt victory assured to them, having the pope backing them also helped bolster their arrogance.
It all came to a boiling point on April 21, 1817, when Poland issued a declarition of war to Russia, who in turn called upon their allies, forcing Polands hand in calling upon their alliance. Armies moblizded, fleets set sail for monumental confromtations, milita and regulars alike formed up for the march.
All along Polands long borders Austrian, Russian, Wallachian, and the odd Armenian regiment flooded over, the polish were sent realing, driven back deep into Lithuania and Germany before French, and English armies arrived to bolster their numbers. With the front stabilized Poland advanced into Hungary and drove back what austrian forces were left there, but before they could cross the Carpathian Mountines they were driven back by two Greek armies, who fallowed the retreating polish and seized Krakow and continued on bolsterd by fresh austrian recrutes.
At the same time the Greek home fleet arrived off the coast of Sicily, unloading a massive army that in 5 months time had seized the entire island, and contiued on to the Italian mainland, advancing to Naples they were soon met by combined Spanish and Papal armys. In the ensuing battle the Spanish and Papal forces were driven off, but at a dire cost, the Italian front had ground to a halt, the Greeks refused to advance out of Apulia, and the Catholics were unable to drive them from there. The war in the colonies would be much more liquid, given the area involved and the number of troops avaliable. Armies would seize a province only to be recalled to stop opposing forces from doing the same, costing them what advances they had made, battles were small and inconclusive. On the seas however the Greeks a determination that won them many victorys, at Polermo, and New Macedonia, off Cape Verde and New Hellas, they won repeated victorys against superior numbers of Catholic ships, much has been attributed to the lack of communication between the western allies on the seas, having to communicate in 3 differnt languages in some cases.
Even with victories on the sea, and advances in Italy the war was going poorly for the eastern powers, the full weight of Polish, English, French, and Spanish forces was being felt on the feilds of Poland. Russian forces had experinced a number of defeats, and Moscow had only been saved by the infamous winter and a well timed counter attack. Austria was fairing little better, they had been all but driven from lower Germany, only Presburg and Odenburg were in their hands. THe Greek armies had been drive back, one encricled and destroyed, the march from Athens to Carpathia was tremendous and reinforcements were slow in arriving, Wallachia aided where they could but they were sapped trying to keep what advances that had made. Things were gorwing desperate, a Allied army threated Vienna, and New Macedonia had been captured by the English, and a defeate by Allied navies at the Straights of Gibralter ended the unbroken series of victories by the Greek Navy. With communications with the colonys cut many feared the worse.
All this culminated in the Romanus declaring a Dictator for the duration of the war. The declaring of Alexander Simitis as dictator of Hellas would prove crucial to the war, and to Hellas. Many claim his swearing in as dictator of Hellas on January 1, 1820 as the fall of the Greek Republic.
The preperations for the upcoming war both sides new were comming went on for several years, Greece strengthened its navy in terms of ships and tactics, Colonial Regiments were doubled in both Africa and South America, as were their naval detachments, the main greek army was also expanded, and two new ones were created. The other members of the Eastern Alliance also prepaired, both Austria and Russias extensive borders with Poland were garrisoned at ever increasing numbers, Wallachias armed forces were also expanded, but along with Armenia they would play a minor role in the war, they just didnt have the resources Austria, Hellas our Russia could call upon. On the other side of the spectrum in the Western Allies expansion of their respective armed forces also increase, but not to the extent of the Easterns, they were blind with power, and rightfuly so, they could feild huge armys and navies and their empires spaned the globe, and with the Polish on their side they felt victory assured to them, having the pope backing them also helped bolster their arrogance.
It all came to a boiling point on April 21, 1817, when Poland issued a declarition of war to Russia, who in turn called upon their allies, forcing Polands hand in calling upon their alliance. Armies moblizded, fleets set sail for monumental confromtations, milita and regulars alike formed up for the march.
All along Polands long borders Austrian, Russian, Wallachian, and the odd Armenian regiment flooded over, the polish were sent realing, driven back deep into Lithuania and Germany before French, and English armies arrived to bolster their numbers. With the front stabilized Poland advanced into Hungary and drove back what austrian forces were left there, but before they could cross the Carpathian Mountines they were driven back by two Greek armies, who fallowed the retreating polish and seized Krakow and continued on bolsterd by fresh austrian recrutes.
At the same time the Greek home fleet arrived off the coast of Sicily, unloading a massive army that in 5 months time had seized the entire island, and contiued on to the Italian mainland, advancing to Naples they were soon met by combined Spanish and Papal armys. In the ensuing battle the Spanish and Papal forces were driven off, but at a dire cost, the Italian front had ground to a halt, the Greeks refused to advance out of Apulia, and the Catholics were unable to drive them from there. The war in the colonies would be much more liquid, given the area involved and the number of troops avaliable. Armies would seize a province only to be recalled to stop opposing forces from doing the same, costing them what advances they had made, battles were small and inconclusive. On the seas however the Greeks a determination that won them many victorys, at Polermo, and New Macedonia, off Cape Verde and New Hellas, they won repeated victorys against superior numbers of Catholic ships, much has been attributed to the lack of communication between the western allies on the seas, having to communicate in 3 differnt languages in some cases.
Even with victories on the sea, and advances in Italy the war was going poorly for the eastern powers, the full weight of Polish, English, French, and Spanish forces was being felt on the feilds of Poland. Russian forces had experinced a number of defeats, and Moscow had only been saved by the infamous winter and a well timed counter attack. Austria was fairing little better, they had been all but driven from lower Germany, only Presburg and Odenburg were in their hands. THe Greek armies had been drive back, one encricled and destroyed, the march from Athens to Carpathia was tremendous and reinforcements were slow in arriving, Wallachia aided where they could but they were sapped trying to keep what advances that had made. Things were gorwing desperate, a Allied army threated Vienna, and New Macedonia had been captured by the English, and a defeate by Allied navies at the Straights of Gibralter ended the unbroken series of victories by the Greek Navy. With communications with the colonys cut many feared the worse.
All this culminated in the Romanus declaring a Dictator for the duration of the war. The declaring of Alexander Simitis as dictator of Hellas would prove crucial to the war, and to Hellas. Many claim his swearing in as dictator of Hellas on January 1, 1820 as the fall of the Greek Republic.
Not exactly the happiest ending
It was still good reading.
So how does the Greek dictatorship handle the rest of the war, LL?
It was still good reading.
So how does the Greek dictatorship handle the rest of the war, LL?