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After the revolts the Kadar government actually stated that one reason to them were the failed policies made during Rakosi's time and agreed with most of the pre-violence demands of the student demonstrators. Just want to bring this one up.
Maybe the UN sends peacekeepers to the stormy western areas (perhaps after US had pressured the USSR) and later decides to either hold free elections in the area (the socialists refuse to let the officials in socialist Hungary -> Korea-like situation) or to negotiate with socialist Hungary to achieve an compromise with the revolters. Don't know though if the UN could do such with the USSR having a veto and such.
This is just the paranoid communist speaking, but I'd say the option of a "strong man" rising in democratic Hungary to smash the remains of the socialist rule would have been quite possible. Maybe an event, with options to either give the communists full democratic rights, outlaw the communist party as "anti-democratic" force (as Yeltsin did with the CPSU in USSR) or giving great power to a "strong man" to protect the new-born democracy
.Zokan's idea of an "Hungarian Crisis" is very good. Indeed, the USSR wouldn't have accepted the idea of a NATO spearhead to East Europe.
Um... In reality there was an initial Hungarian victory... but no such strongman in power. If the whole country breaks away and isn't Communist it should be up to the Soviets to end or extend the conflict into those two first outcomes. The Hungarians would have to fight a little to hard, more then they possibly could, to have an "absolute" victory.
Ok, the strongman option is a bit far fetched and I didn't want to say it would be the most propable option to come.Brote Heckler said:
My main point is, communists were facing violent opposition, with party members killed and marxist literature burned in the streets, before the Soviets came. IMO there would have been suppression of communists, although perhaps not in a violent fashion, after the situation would have stabilized.
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Yeah... I got your point, but the revolution was popular, there was no counter-revolution like in Rumania or Poland. In events, would be better, you could eventually mill out the Russkis, otherwise it should all be up to the player to change that particular history.
Any chance of uploading it to a better file sharing site than that lame ass limited download peice of crap rapidshare? Seriously.
Cavalry Scout said:
If you are meaning the main file, it is already uploaded to other sites like savefile or megaupload.
-Update 1: (6.89MB)
-From Savefile: http://www.savefile.com/files/1168295
-From Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0BEWCNK9
-Update 2
500K)-From Savefile: http://www.savefile.com/files/1168299
-From Megaupload : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LKSDJ0QB (Despite it's description it is the second update, it weights only 500ks)
-Update 3
9.49MB)-From Savefile: http://www.savefile.com/files/1168312
-From Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=92FULU3C
Here you have i hope that it's enough alternate download locations.
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Kretoxian said:If you are meaning the main file, it is already uploaded to other sites like savefile or megaupload.
-Update 1: (6.89MB)
-From Savefile: http://www.savefile.com/files/1168295
-From Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0BEWCNK9
-Update 2
-From Savefile: http://www.savefile.com/files/1168299
-From Megaupload : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LKSDJ0QB (Despite it's description it is the second update, it weights only 500ks)
-Update 3
-From Savefile: http://www.savefile.com/files/1168312`
-From Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=92FULU3C
Here you have i hope that it's enough alternate download locations.
There you go. Thanks for that. The other site only allowed me to download the one file then said I had to wait a half hour to download one of the updates. :wacko:
EDIT: FYI, savefile was perfect. Allowed me to download whatever I wanted. However, just so you know, update 3 on savefile was coming up with a 404 file not found.
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Cavalry Scout said:
Link fixed, it was due to an inverted comma that sliped inside the URL
I think i owe you some kind of explanation due to the inactivity of this forum since the last Saturday, but it has been because i don't know why the game simply CTDs when reaches the last stage in the loading process (initializing script) telling you that the scenario files has errors.
I have told my closest colaborators the reason that i suspect is the cause of the CTD (the exceesion of the 9 model limit per unit).
However if you think you can discover the reason,and by popular demand only, i will compile a new unworkable version to see if someone discovers the error.
Other thing, when i try to load the scenario in the editor (no the editor have not corrupted the game, because i've been doing that since the very first beta) for parse purposes it fails to load telling that "Root level cannot accept list items" Anyone has an idea about what is this?????
I have told my closest colaborators the reason that i suspect is the cause of the CTD (the exceesion of the 9 model limit per unit).
However if you think you can discover the reason,and by popular demand only, i will compile a new unworkable version to see if someone discovers the error.
Other thing, when i try to load the scenario in the editor (no the editor have not corrupted the game, because i've been doing that since the very first beta) for parse purposes it fails to load telling that "Root level cannot accept list items" Anyone has an idea about what is this?????
I used the editor only to parse some things, it is inside the "safety levels" of the editor and i've been doing that since the very first version, so i don't think that the editor has been the cause of this crash.Brote Heckler said:
I have really good news. I have managed to solve the fatal error.
I don't know why the game did not accept czechoslovakian inc file due to some kind of incompatibility in the "type" command of the OOB.
After it solved, the game runs again.
I don't know why the game did not accept czechoslovakian inc file due to some kind of incompatibility in the "type" command of the OOB.
After it solved, the game runs again.
It's a piece of nonsense but i don't know why i would like to ask you people if you think that the main "chooseable" countries are right or, if you would replace a country for other, or simply add another one.
I think they are basically all right.
It is slightly strange to see Vietnam and North Korea there as if they are great powers. I would replace them with something like Italy and Poland, but then the game will look somewhat Eurocentric.
It's a minor issue anyway, it's easy enough to chose a different country.
It is slightly strange to see Vietnam and North Korea there as if they are great powers. I would replace them with something like Italy and Poland, but then the game will look somewhat Eurocentric.
It's a minor issue anyway, it's easy enough to chose a different country.
I decided to include N. Korea and Vietnam because i wanted to have some the commie countries balanced with the capitalist (using Marxist terms) countries.Kami888 said:
If you fix into it, you will see that the commies are in the left and the capitalist in the right.
Foxbat created an installer version for the mod, i have uploaded to rapidshare and i will upload it to other locations like megaupload, check the first post for details.
Well that was impossible not to notice, but you should have also noticed that by replacing vietnam and north korea with italy and poland the balance will not change, therefore I'm not sure why you mentioned it.
Besides, it does make sense to have more capitalist than socialist selectable powers in 1955 becuase that's how the world really was back then.
If you get to make another scenario, say in 1970s, then it will be the opposite - the socialist countries will outnumber the capitalist.
kami888 said:
The profecy has fulfil!!!!!
Here's a preview of the 1979 scenario available in the next version:
Europe:
A very coloured Africa:
Asia:
Middle East:
Caribbean (Don't let the Paramaribo's colour fool you, it's Surinam country)
This is starting to look like MDS.