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Victoria 2 17560 After Action Reports (AAR)
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Gatkramp said:
Uhmm.... You realise that would mean they are patching with no budget, right? That's impossible, unless they're running some sort of volunteer charity type organisation....
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I was using the term "perfection" loosely. What I really meant was what you posted: "patch it as much as possible". But I disagree with releasing expansions to get funding for more patches, because at that point the basic game would no longer be patched if HoI3 is any kind of example.
 
Will this patch resolve the late game lag that comes up? because when i arrive at the 1900/1910 tha game seems to be "heavy" very very "HEAVY"(i don't have an old pc only to say that all the other game on the earth go well at maximum gfx and all the rest) so will paradox resolve this problem or it's impossible for me end a game, even one time? and this problem isn't only mine but a lot of player can't end a ****ING GAME! and have to restart every time the game is boring.. thx a lot anyway i hope you solve all the problem paradox!
 
On the issue of debt I think that a great adition to the game would be individual credit ratings for countries.

For instance the great powers could all hover around the AA-AAA rating allowing lower borrowig costs on debt. Second tier powers A rating ect ect. Some external force can chang your credit rating if your debt gets too great and unsrvicabl, in wich case it is down graded, or you enter a rececion and the like wich also has a negative impact on the rating. however industrialisation and attaining great power status as well as decicively winning wars (providing they werent hugely costly like WW1 was for the victors) will improve your rating and make you more investable. other events like civil unrest can all play a part in determining a nations credit rating.

It would also be a handy guide when issuing loans and it could set a bench mark for what levels of interest a nation would deem exaptable to pay.

If you like this idea paradox, unless you can implement it quickly, please please put it in another patch for i so long to return to vicky 2 once 1.2 is out.
 
Chinese Gordon said:
On the issue of debt I think that a great adition to the game would be individual credit ratings for countries.

For instance the great powers could all hover around the AA-AAA rating allowing lower borrowig costs on debt. Second tier powers A rating ect ect. Some external force can chang your credit rating if your debt gets too great and unsrvicabl, in wich case it is down graded, or you enter a rececion and the like wich also has a negative impact on the rating. however industrialisation and attaining great power status as well as decicively winning wars (providing they werent hugely costly like WW1 was for the victors) will improve your rating and make you more investable. other events like civil unrest can all play a part in determining a nations credit rating.

It would also be a handy guide when issuing loans and it could set a bench mark for what levels of interest a nation would deem exaptable to pay.

If you like this idea paradox, unless you can implement it quickly, please please put it in another patch for i so long to return to vicky 2 once 1.2 is out.
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Well, the only idea I got is that Debt needs to actually have an impact on a nation. Allow a "Collateral" Casus Belli. Assign a fixed $$$ value to a province/state according to Industry, Overall income of the population and troops recruited from that region. LIMIT how much of a loan you can get from your own banks, unless you allow Capitalists to actually OWN Factories and troops and provinces as some AI-ran satelite nation

Example: As the USA, you are several hundreds of thousands in debt on a loan given to you by the Bank of the USA. Unable to pay, your allowed to default and thus "remove" the loan by seceding some province to a Capitalist-based "AI Satelite Nation" of which you can't declare war on ever, but you have the option of one day buying back what they own. This Capitalist-based AI Satelite Nation can, after a fixed amount of years, become "On the market" but at a very greatly increased amount (A property that was sold to cover a 100,000 debt, can be bought only for 100,000,000). However, this Capitalist-based AI Sat. Nation (The Corpocratic States of America, the United Corpocratic Kingdom, Corpocratic Canada) is War-Immune, operates on a basis of a fixed amount (15%) of the pop as capitalists, and has a production modifier to it. You CAN put it in your Sphere, but to get it back or take it from another, requires money.

Many ways to approach it, but debt needs to have an actual impact instead of just a laughable small amount of debt.
 
Baiganx said:
Well, the only idea I got is that Debt needs to actually have an impact on a nation. Allow a "Collateral" Casus Belli. Assign a fixed $$$ value to a province/state according to Industry, Overall income of the population and troops recruited from that region. LIMIT how much of a loan you can get from your own banks, unless you allow Capitalists to actually OWN Factories and troops and provinces as some AI-ran satelite nation

Example: As the USA, you are several hundreds of thousands in debt on a loan given to you by the Bank of the USA. Unable to pay, your allowed to default and thus "remove" the loan by seceding some province to a Capitalist-based "AI Satelite Nation" of which you can't declare war on ever, but you have the option of one day buying back what they own. This Capitalist-based AI Satelite Nation can, after a fixed amount of years, become "On the market" but at a very greatly increased amount (A property that was sold to cover a 100,000 debt, can be bought only for 100,000,000). However, this Capitalist-based AI Sat. Nation (The Corpocratic States of America, the United Corpocratic Kingdom, Corpocratic Canada) is War-Immune, operates on a basis of a fixed amount (15%) of the pop as capitalists, and has a production modifier to it. You CAN put it in your Sphere, but to get it back or take it from another, requires money.

Many ways to approach it, but debt needs to have an actual impact instead of just a laughable small amount of debt.
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Honestly, there are already ways that the game handles it. You can't build ships without any gold. You probably can't build units ((hasn't double-checked that))

Without those two things, your nation is going down pretty fast anyway. I think it is doing just fine WAD.
 
Umm, don't know if this was covered, but, WHAT ABOUT THE INSANE UPRISINGS THAT HAPPEN EVERY OTHER WEEK IN EVERY COUNTRY? In my game about half of planet earth is under the control of Anarcho-Socialist groups, cool, but retarded none the less.
 
DonAndresDeUllo said:
Umm, don't know if this was covered, but, WHAT ABOUT THE INSANE UPRISINGS THAT HAPPEN EVERY OTHER WEEK IN EVERY COUNTRY? In my game about half of planet earth is under the control of Anarcho-Socialist groups, cool, but retarded none the less.
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Yes, this (too many rebels) was one of the most discussed issues so far.
 
Revshawn said:
Honestly, there are already ways that the game handles it. You can't build ships without any gold. You probably can't build units ((hasn't double-checked that))

Without those two things, your nation is going down pretty fast anyway. I think it is doing just fine WAD.
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Gotta disagree based on experience. A nation can, in the game, run 700K in debt and still be a "Great Power" and still build ships and units. Having a debt, having no money, and running a budget massively in the red honestly has no consequence at all in the game.

Reverse side of the coin...what, if ANY USE does "Gunboat Diplomacy" have in the game? The pre-release publicity seemed to indicate Gunboat Diplomacy had many uses and was a critical and wonderful element in the game. But honestly, it seems like some concept the devs either forgot about or never actually *FINISHED*
 
Soooo. It´s not last week anymore. Gimme Gimme Gimme.
 
Baiganx said:
Gotta disagree based on experience. A nation can, in the game, run 700K in debt and still be a "Great Power" and still build ships and units. Having a debt, having no money, and running a budget massively in the red honestly has no consequence at all in the game.*
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Unlike in the real world?
 
Al. I. Cuza said:
Have to love good sarcasm :D
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Blackadder: [seeing Percy's abnormally wide new neckruff] You look like a bird who's swallowed a plate.
Percy: It's the latest fashion, actually. And as a matter of fact, it makes me look rather sexy!
Blackadder: To another plate-swallowing bird, perhaps. If it was blind and hadn't had it in months.

:D
 
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