I understand that they needed a nerf, but really? Costing 3x as much retinue cap for half as many men is stupid. Paradox went overboard with this one.
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If they are to exist at all, they should be very expensive.
I've had this modded into my game for a long time, and I am glad to see Paradox agrees with that route.
Because, honestly, retinues pre-CM made the game a complete snowball simulator.
Well, if they are so expensive and few, they should be actually GOOD, at least. Right now they're a waste of money.Honestly, I think this way is better. They now feel like..retinues. IE a small, elite unit, as opposed to a modern standing army, like they were before. I think we just got too used to how retinues worked before now.
They should be expensive, certainly. But if the limiting factor is going to be money, shouldn't we at least be able to actually buy an army if we have the money? With retinues being so heavily limited on numbers there's no point in using them at all now. You get better value from mercenaries, and you can just magically raise them as needed.
They should be expensive, certainly. But if the limiting factor is going to be money, shouldn't we at least be able to actually buy an army if we have the money? With retinues being so heavily limited on numbers there's no point in using them at all now. You get better value from mercenaries, and you can just magically raise them as needed.
I prefer them being OP than useless. Paradox should find a middle ground..IMO it's a change for the better. The retinues were way OP.
You get better value from mercenaries, and you can just magically raise them as needed.
I prefer them being OP than useless. Paradox should find a middle ground..
Well, if they are so expensive and few, they should be actually GOOD, at least. Right now they're a waste of money.
I don't get the whining about them actually. I currently have ~9k skirmish retinue which costs me a whooping 2,27 gold per month in upkeep. That's like...nothing. They do however cost quite a bit to replenish. But once fully replenished they are a cheap standing army you can bury under your regular troops. That way they won't take heavy losses and thus limit their replenishment cost.
Great change. Would keep.
Oh yeah, the system can still be easily exploited.
The replenish cost and time is a bit silly, however. Getting 6 troops a month on a troop totalling 2K takes...a while.
I don't get the whining about them actually. I currently have ~9k skirmish retinue which costs me a whooping 2,27 gold per month in upkeep. That's like...nothing. They do however cost quite a bit to replenish. But once fully replenished they are a cheap standing army you can bury under your regular troops. That way they won't take heavy losses and thus limit their replenishment cost.
Great change. Would keep.