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• Jul 1, 2014

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The Dutch's Anarcho Liberals who is basically fascists with full citizenship.
Bonapartistes.
Kurdish Party is probably my favorite.

Anyone else have any?

 

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China has some rather good parties available in the late game. Beiyang comes to mind.

 

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• Jul 1, 2014

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Reactionary with Limited Citizenship (Chinese subs have that) is good party in my view.

 

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Sweden's Conservatives with State Capitalism really help industry get a good start.

 

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I like reactionary rebels in uncivilized nations. When they take over, they roll back all reforms and demand that $nation_name is accounted as primitive nation. Basically they take arms to say "We want to be primitive savages with brutal government, without effective weapons, fortifications, medicine and administration."

They are amazing. I see guys like that IRL time to time. Some of my family members are that conservative.

 

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• Jul 1, 2014

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Any liberal party with state capitalism. Easily electable, very workable. Gran Colombia's (but not regular Colombia) liberals come to mind, I think their platform is almost the same as the Gran Colombian socialists.

Any conservative party with state capitalism that doesn't also have residency. Brazil's Paulistas are one of my favourite examples of that. Very easy to elect.

Any state atheist socialists, if only for the novelty of it. Argentina's Partido Socialista comes to mind. It gives you faster assimilation, even if it makes it so you have to constantly keep re-promoting clergy because you're government is radical anticlericalists. Communists and anarcho-liberals have state atheism too, but they have other issues. I think Argentina's socialist party might be my favourite socialist party in the game.

 

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• Jul 2, 2014

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I love the really unelectable parties that you have to plan to get into government, even when they will disappear whilst in power. the US Free Soil and Populist parties spring to mind.

Not cause they are any good, just the joy of getting these guys into power.

 

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Can we get started on what policies are best? Tariffs are important to my economy usually, I'm a warmonger(who isn't), and I'm not exceptional at deciding factories; railroads are my thing. I also like fast assimilation for the precious National Focuses(aka soldiers and clergy), and the religion I prefer low MIL/CON. I know that Interventionism and Jingoism are probably best, but what countries have political parties with that criteria?

 

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• Jul 7, 2014

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I am currently playing Mexico in POP of Darkness.

I managed to narrowly push all social reforms to raise my immigration attraction. As a result, I even managed to beat the US as the world's prime destination for immigrants. My leading party were the Moderate Liberals, a conservative party with Interventionalism and Limited Citizenship. Suddenly, after another firm conservative victory, I noticed that my immigration trickled from over 5000 a month to 100. What the...

Then I noticed that the Moderate Liberals got narrowly (by less than a percent) defeated by Constitutionalists - a new conservative party with Residency in place of Limited Citizenship. I tried holding additional elections twice, always nudging the populace towards Limited Citizenship, but the Moderate Liberals still got defeated by those xenophobes. I tried weighting the conservative vote in leading Moderate Liberal states, but it only made the xenophobes stronger. Meanwhile, immigration fell down even further.

And thus, two decades of social reforms and dreams of greatness came to an end. I hate you, Partido Constitucionalista, hijackers of Mexican conservatism.

 

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Bonapartists seem pretty bad, French Republicans are the best French party, full citizenship, interventionism, the only thing that is bad is anti-military but most of the French parties are anti-military

 

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The Dutch Anarcho Liberal party is the least liberal radical liberal party that I've ever seen in my entire life. Protectionist, State Capitalist, Jingoist, lol what? By far the best party in game once you add on full citizenship.

 

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• Jul 7, 2014

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Otto of england said:

The Dutch Anarcho Liberal party is the least liberal radical liberal party that I've ever seen in my entire life. Protectionist, State Capitalist, Jingoist, lol what? By far the best party in game once you add on full citizenship.

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Only minus about them is them not able to do social reforms.

 

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• Jul 7, 2014

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Terant said:

Sweden's Conservatives with State Capitalism really help industry get a good start.

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...and how about that Jingoism combined with the starting lack of reforms. Sweet fabricate CB action (+30% speed), you might get several concession/conquest done with very low infamy. Several times I've gotten the first acquisiton completely free. After you start to grant reforms and get your first load of infamy it's less likely to do wonders.

 

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• Jul 7, 2014

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wetblowdryer said:

Only minus about them is them not able to do social reforms.

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If you stay as a Monarchy though, you can appoint them as ruling party and still get reforms as Anarcho Liberals rarely get more then 1-10% of the vote.

 

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Russian Populists aren't around for long but they have good policies just when you need them

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party = {
    name = "RUS_socialist_2"
    start_date = 1848.1.1
    end_date = 1881.1.1

    ideology = socialist

    economic_policy = state_capitalism
    trade_policy = protectionism
    religious_policy = secularized
    citizenship_policy = full_citizenship
    war_policy = jingoism
}

 

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• Jul 11, 2014

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Kingpoleon said:

Can we get started on what policies are best? Tariffs are important to my economy usually, I'm a warmonger(who isn't), and I'm not exceptional at deciding factories; railroads are my thing. I also like fast assimilation for the precious National Focuses(aka soldiers and clergy), and the religion I prefer low MIL/CON. I know that Interventionism and Jingoism are probably best, but what countries have political parties with that criteria?

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Lazzies faire is best if you're lazy or just too big to micro, already have decent industrial base and capitalists that can invest. With interventionism you still have to manually destroy bankrupt factories, which as a big industrial country might be a bit bothersome. Jingo is good if you want to spend a lot on military. Religious policy doesn't actually matter much really at all afaik except when it comes to flavour events.

tarrifs can and will seriously hurt your industry if you're not subsidizing everything. So I wouldn't use too much tarriffs except when you don't have much choice. It also makes it cost more for your pops to import any goods from outside, which means they're not affording as much goods as they should, which means as they get less luxury/everyday/life goods/needs, they will become more upset, and also emmigrate more. And demote.

 

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Otto of england said:

The Dutch Anarcho Liberal party is the least liberal radical liberal party that I've ever seen in my entire life. Protectionist, State Capitalist, Jingoist, lol what? By far the best party in game once you add on full citizenship.

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Fun Fact: Otto is Italian for eight. Anyway
OT: I really like the Brazilian Paulistas.
Tariffs are necessary at wartime; that wartime economy kills, and I think it's realistic to charge more for your goods during wartime, especially if an ally of France, say Spain, has in its sphere Portugal, that imports a lot of coal from me, Germany. Then I charge them and the other Spanish allies more. Can people you're at war with import your stuff though? I remember this one time, when I went over the infamy limit as Egypt, and the Ottomans attacked civilized me. They owed me like 5000 pounds.

 

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Faulty said:

Russian Populists aren't around for long but they have good policies just when you need them

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party = {
    name = "RUS_socialist_2"
    start_date = 1848.1.1
    end_date = 1881.1.1

    ideology = socialist

    economic_policy = state_capitalism
    trade_policy = protectionism
    religious_policy = secularized
    citizenship_policy = full_citizenship
    war_policy = jingoism
}

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Yeah, I saw that. That is the best political party in the entire game imo. Unfortunately, they go away.

 

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• Jul 13, 2014

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wetblowdryer said:

Yeah, I saw that. That is the best political party in the entire game imo. Unfortunately, they go away.

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I would say the Dutch Anarcho Liberals are better, they're around for the engine game and have the same policies except pluralism instead of secularism.

 

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• Jul 16, 2014

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Why is it hardcoded that parties disappear? Like I understand that they probably did only exist for a short time, but if they get into power there is no reason in game that they would disband.

"What we have a huge margin on our nearest rival and undisputed power in the parliament, nah think I might go fishing instead." WTF!