India DLC - what about the map?

CzokletMuss · Jan 23, 2014

Simple question - what about the extended map?

(I used the map from EU4)

Would there be more provinces in Africa and Siberia? What about more islands on Atlantic for people who have converter DLC and want to start colonizatino quickly? So many possibilities!

Me_ · Jan 23, 2014

Wasteland.

theKing1988 · Jan 23, 2014

Siberia could and much of it probably should be left as wasteland.

CzokletMuss · Jan 23, 2014

Yes but if you take a closer look you'll see that we'll have more space near the Horn of Africa - Somalia anyone?

Arcvalons · Jan 23, 2014

They did say 50% bigger map, that is only like 30%

Tengri · Jan 23, 2014

I asked same question in another thread. Here's my prediction, with the blue line marking where I think new border will be:

Me_ · Jan 23, 2014

CzokletMuss said:
Yes but if you take a closer look you'll see that we'll have more space near the Horn of Africa - Somalia anyone?

Or more wasteland, although I hope I'm wrong.

Arcvalons said:
They did say 50% bigger map, that is only like 30%

That's because Europe is very big in the EU4 map projection. CK2 may be more realistic about the size of India.

Tengri · Jan 23, 2014

Me_ said:
That's because Europe is very big in the EU4 map projection. CK2 may be more realistic about the size of India.

True.
I also think we should not necessarily take the 50% statement as being literal truth.

donaldduck · Jan 23, 2014

CzokletMuss said:
Yes but if you take a closer look you'll see that we'll have more space near the Horn of Africa - Somalia anyone?

They had moved South America (or Africa?)a bit in EU and Victoria. Perhaps they will do the same with Africa in ROI?

yclept · Jan 23, 2014

We're absolutely sure that it is going to be a straight map extension, and not a separate map specifically for the DLC, with you choosing which map to play when you start the game?

Something like...

...but with a different projection that gives you a bigger India.

It might sidestep a bunch of problems, if the game was only running for the map your were actually playing on, and didn't bother with the other one. Bookmarks and earliest start and latest start dates could also be different between the two maps.

Me_ · Jan 23, 2014

yclept said:
We're absolutely sure that it is going to be a straight map extension, and not a separate map specifically for the DLC, with you choosing which map to play when you start the game?

Something like...

It's been said that it will have "50% bigger map", which suggest that there is a single map, or that India alone is 150% of Europe.

CzokletMuss · Jan 24, 2014

It could work like in Empire: Total War with separate regions. It would be kinda silly though.

Thure · Jan 24, 2014

yclept said:
We're absolutely sure that it is going to be a straight map extension, and not a separate map specifically for the DLC, with you choosing which map to play when you start the game?

It might sidestep a bunch of problems, if the game was only running for the map your were actually playing on, and didn't bother with the other one. Bookmarks and earliest start and latest start dates could also be different between the two maps.

They said "50 % bigger map" and "+300 new provinces". Sound like a map expansion for me. Not like a own map.

Lord Finnish · Jan 24, 2014

My version

Black is wasteland, red circle is Mongols.

DrLulz · Jan 24, 2014

Lord Finnish said:
My version
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Black is wasteland, red circle is Mongols.

This guess seeems reasonable imho.

Trunting · Jan 24, 2014

I think, Lord Finnish's version is closest to what we can expect to see, although I think, there might be a small part of Indochina added, because the Indian rulers did sometimes fight with this part of the world, too. The major problem, however, is the representation of central Asia. This region is known and famous for being a melting pot of all thinkable newly formed tribes, cultures etc. And also, where will the mongols start? Will there be a chance for them to invade India instead of Europe?

CzokletMuss · Jan 24, 2014

Yeah, nice map. Although I think Mongols would get more space than you showed here. Plus I really hope for more provinces in Africa - currently there's nothing to do as Mali or Abbysinia besides fighting Fatimids/Morocco.

Trunting · Jan 24, 2014

One thing I just noticed. What about the sea zones in the Indian sea?

CzokletMuss · Jan 24, 2014

Trunting said:
One thing I just noticed. What about the sea zones in the Indian sea?

What do you mean? Either Paradox will find a way to make to separate sea zones or they will be connected in some weird way throught the Suez canal.

Michaeldsuarez · Jan 24, 2014

Tengri said:
I asked same question in another thread. Here's my prediction, with the blue line marking where I think new border will be:

Your prediction leaves out Bengal, which was an important Indian region during CK2's timefame:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pala_Empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sena_dynasty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Sultanate

If this really is a 50% increase, then I hope that Bengal is also increase in the expansion.

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