Dynamic Cities feature

Damion · Aug 14, 2012

I'm hopeful for Dynamic Cities as a replacement for the economic boom/bust mechanic in CiM1, because it'll add an element of player agency to something that felt largely out of my control in the original game.

Would it also be possible to make this an optional feature in sandbox mode?

Thanks! Looking forward to buying CiM2.

Mikebloke · Aug 14, 2012

Yeah, definitely the feature I'm most interested in. This way we can react to how the city changes in its desired routes to what we've done (or not done).

Baro · Aug 15, 2012

I think A-train handled this very well. You'd build the train lines and stations and buildings would grow on their own as well as the ability to directly invest in projects to help build a passenger base. A game that was like a combo of A-train and CiM would be my dream city-builder/transport game. Please make it so, Colossal Order!

unmerged(230229) · Aug 15, 2012

Is the rush hour introduced into a game? I am pleasure.

If it goes on more slowly, a real time traffic simulation game can do "time" in a game. However, is waiting for time only tedious as a construction(or management) simulation game?

ChrillSwe · Aug 15, 2012

It's worth checking out OpenTTD (www.openttd.org) and play that to see how player transport affects city growth

UsF · Aug 15, 2012

Really good sounding feature, but I wonder how much influence the player has. If it is going to be really detailled, maybe the player can alter the cities development by the type of transport and connections, like linking a neighborhood to an industrial area would make both of them develop more and into bigger complexes or wider spread areas.

unmerged(436056) · Aug 15, 2012

ChrillSwe said:
It's worth checking out OpenTTD (www.openttd.org) and play that to see how player transport affects city growth

OpenTTD has a very simplistic system, make X number of deliveries in a month and the town grows a bit on a grid-like basis.

Drag0nflamez · Aug 16, 2012

So does this also mean that if I build a metro station on what is basically farmland, people from other parts of the city will all start living there and the centre turns into a mostly commercial area?

Rodrico Stak · Aug 16, 2012

Drag0nflamez said:
So does this also mean that if I build a metro station on what is basically farmland, people from other parts of the city will all start living there and the centre turns into a mostly commercial area?

I sure hope so. That sort of thing happens in reality, after all; even here in Dallas where public transit is poor at best.

Thanks4Nothing · Aug 16, 2012

Nice...
But I still hope for another thing that I didn't see in the original game. Some history.
Like in 1933-1945 Berlin looks some nazis (flags, columns of soldier walking on streets, etc.)
In 1944-1945 - bombing sometimes (well, good enough if just part of buildings falls down...your buses can be destroyed too).
Part of Cold War in Berlin could be really interesting (well, maybe, you'll choose side - east or west).
And, of course, you can get original events and tasks.

I really missed this in CiM1.

evilon · Aug 16, 2012

Thanks4Nothing said:
Like in 1933-1945 Berlin looks some nazis (flags, columns of soldier walking on streets, etc.)

I don't think you'll ever see any nazi symbols in any paradox game that's not wholly built around wwII.
Atleast not if it's supposed sell in germany.

slornie · Aug 16, 2012

Thanks4Nothing said:
Nice...
But I still hope for another thing that I didn't see in the original game. Some history.
Like in 1933-1945 Berlin looks some nazis (flags, columns of soldier walking on streets, etc.)
In 1944-1945 - bombing sometimes (well, good enough if just part of buildings falls down...your buses can be destroyed too).
Part of Cold War in Berlin could be really interesting (well, maybe, you'll choose side - east or west).
And, of course, you can get original events and tasks.

No thanks. I don't want my nice transport sim cluttered up with pointless random explosions just to add some local colour.

Have the appearance change over time, yes; possibly identifiable with a particular era, yes; but this isn't a political/military game.

Baro · Aug 17, 2012

I always thought the main thing a transport and city focused game needed was pointless war simulations that add nothing to the game.

Drag0nflamez · Aug 17, 2012

Well, it's named CiM2: The Modern Days, so no Nazi Berlin. Should probably start somewhere around the late 1980s/begin 1990s...

Bel_Alex · Aug 17, 2012

Start before 50-70's - it's bad. We lose much of the history of public transport, I think.

upd: Well, it seems, defined years will not be in CiM2. Will be only day, mounth and time. Umm...

unmerged(273319) · Aug 21, 2012

I actually have the opposite feelings.

If I wanted to build cities, I'd play SimCity. I'm here to design public transit networks and systems.

I really hope CiM2 has pre-built cities that I don't have to develop and build.

Baro · Aug 21, 2012

It looks like we do have spline based roads. That's fine but I really hope it means we also have procedural buildings. Cities XL looks horrible unless you built in a grid, no wall to wall buildings, no proper street-wall effect. CiM was great for making proper looking cities, at least the buildings had no spaces between them!

I really hope CiM2 considers procedural or at least "flexible" buildings where the facads are splines so if you have buildings conform to the shape of the roads. The technology for this has been done and it's not very complex. For nice european (or even north american) "street walls" it should be simple to do.

Alex_brunius · Aug 22, 2012

Three60Mafia said:
I actually have the opposite feelings.

If I wanted to build cities, I'd play SimCity. I'm here to design public transit networks and systems.

I really hope CiM2 has pre-built cities that I don't have to develop and build.

I think you missunderstood.

We only have to design public transit networks and system.

The idea behind dynamic growth is that the City change depending on where there is good access to your transit systems.
If you provide to much capacity somewhere the city should (in time) grow and adapt after the capacity.
If you provide no lines to one part citizens might move away from there to where there is better service.

So in short a living city.

GE90-115B · Aug 22, 2012

When I think about it. this is a very very good feature. You will not be limited anymore by the map itself and you could in theory build a network as huge as you want too. Will there be any limitation in how big a map can be?

aklaft · Aug 23, 2012

Alex_brunius said:
I think you missunderstood.

We only have to design public transit networks and system.

The idea behind dynamic growth is that the City change depending on where there is good access to your transit systems.
If you provide to much capacity somewhere the city should (in time) grow and adapt after the capacity.
If you provide no lines to one part citizens might move away from there to where there is better service.

So in short a living city.

Have you watched the videos? When you build a road buildings pop up instantly.

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