Having trouble having kids? Check the size of your court...

sirbruce · Feb 13, 2012

I just found out in defines.txt that if you have more than 30 members in your court, the game starts reducing the number of children allowed to keep it from growing too large. So I guess if you want more children you need to jettison some useless courtiers...

unmerged(199940) · Feb 13, 2012

I guess the flipside is if you fill up your enemy's court, they won't be able to have children...

unmerged(68578) · Feb 13, 2012

Well, that's extremely annoying because my court is normally full of useless people I can't get rid of. Most of my court is my consul, their wives, random children of dead rulers and claimants. I have over 30 within a few years. Playing the full game I'd probably have hundreds.

Swuboo · Feb 13, 2012

My understanding is that that only applies to AI courts, to prevent the game from completely bogging down. The number of children the player can have is unrestricted.

FreeMayk · Feb 13, 2012

Reducing royal children too? Or just court people?

unmerged(75409) · Feb 13, 2012

drkpendragon said:
Well, that's extremely annoying because my court is normally full of useless people I can't get rid of. Most of my court is my consul, their wives, random children of dead rulers and claimants. I have over 30 within a few years. Playing the full game I'd probably have hundreds.

Marry the women off, and piss off the courtiers when they ask you for stuff

Also, there's a "Banish" option IIRC; might be just for imprisoned characters though.

FreeMayk · Feb 13, 2012

drkpendragon said:
Well, that's extremely annoying because my court is normally full of useless people I can't get rid of. Most of my court is my consul, their wives, random children of dead rulers and claimants. I have over 30 within a few years. Playing the full game I'd probably have hundreds.

U can kill them.

Hidden Legend · Feb 13, 2012

It's is 30 in total for every court I saw the file last night.
Also simple answer is that you marry off all courtiers you don't want so the go to other courts relatives usually come back when invited anyway

unmerged(68578) · Feb 13, 2012

Leviathan07 said:
Marry the women off, and piss off the courtiers when they ask you for stuff

Also, there's a "Banish" option IIRC; might be just for imprisoned characters though.

But most of the women are married to my consul. Most of the other ones are children. I don't even know where they all come from

hmy:

However, hopefully it's only for NPC courts.

Hidden Legend · Feb 13, 2012

It's is 30 in total for every court I saw the file last night.
Also simple answer is that you marry off all courtiers you don't want so the go to other courts relatives usually come back when invited anyway

unmerged(241678) · Feb 13, 2012

I somehow fear it is not only for AI. In my last england game I was quite sure my first son and/or his wife had very low fertility since the first 10 years of their marrigae they had no kids at all. Than I died, he became King, moved from his county to my capital and within 5 years they got 5 children (no twins).

Bertouch · Feb 13, 2012

Hidden Legend said:
It's is 30 in total for every court I saw the file last night.
Also simple answer is that you marry off all courtiers you don't want so the go to other courts relatives usually come back when invited anyway

And how do you marry off male courtiers, so they'll leave? Arranging a matrilineal marriage doesn't work: it only allows you to select spouses for them from your own court.

James The 1st · Feb 13, 2012

Have them marry rulers.

The Blood Eagle · Feb 13, 2012

It's so easy to keep high relations with your vassals, that it shouldn't be too much of a problem to carry out the occasional prison execution or banishment.

MasterofMagic · Feb 13, 2012

Just put a # by that script and it shouldn't fire.....

Bertouch · Feb 13, 2012

The Blood Eagle said:
It's so easy to keep high relations with your vassals, that it shouldn't be too much of a problem to carry out the occasional prison execution or banishment.

-40 from Tyrant per imprisonment, per person in your court, isn't to be taken lightly. Oh, and it sticks to you for years, too.

Diet of Worms · Feb 13, 2012

Bertouch said:
And how do you marry off male courtiers, so they'll leave? Arranging a matrilineal marriage doesn't work: it only allows you to select spouses for them from your own court.

Marriage requests go to the liege. If you are choosing the option from their diplomacy screen, then what you are basically doing is asking their liege (ie you) if they (you) have anyone they (you) want to marry to your own courtier

If you ask some other liege, you'll be able to choose from your courtiers on one side, and his on the other.

Although I strongly suspect this is AI only. Would seem very unlikely they would do this for the player. And I've running with a large court from dynasty breeding and advisor fishing, and I've still had some large royal families.

The Blood Eagle · Feb 13, 2012

Bertouch said:
-40 from Tyrant per imprisonment, per person in your court, isn't to be taken lightly. Oh, and it sticks to you for years, too.

Yeah, I don't have a very large sample size to work with, but so far playing a benevolent king has paid dividends when it comes to diplomatic options.

Bertouch · Feb 13, 2012

Diet of Worms said:
Although I strongly suspect this is AI only. Would seem very unlikely they would do this for the player. And I've running with a large court from dynasty breeding and advisor fishing, and I've still had some large royal families.

It actually works: I dumped an annoying courtier on Scotland's Malcolm the Cruel. Thanks for the tip.

InnocentIII · Feb 13, 2012

Make the bad ones spymaster, send them to Constantinople, let them rot in jail forever when they get caught? Should do in three a year.

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