THank god i can become an industrial protugal through other nations. Maybe I can stay in great power around 1870 without having to take sicily.
THIS IS SO AWESOME
And also, what happens to your foreign investments in general if your country undergoes a revolution?
Ouch, I foresee a lot of problems with this.
3 nations declared war on you and they have nationalized your industry.
Your trying to build industry to remove a country from another GP sphere, and that GP declares war on you - decades of investments loss.
You have a lot of unemployed craftsmen and your capis insist on building a factory in Brazil.
You're waiting for your capis to accumulate enough money for your first factory and they decide to build it in Ottoman empire
You're capis build their first Automobile factory in Argentina while you get 123rd furniture factory.
Your capis are now bankrupt because they built a lot of factories in other countries and their numbers bloated in your country making them not earn enough.
And so on...
All of these are actually real world concerns, and they happen a lot in reality. It is what you get without government direction of the economy. Also, it is realistic that foreign investments are a big risk in case of war. This will make the economic and diplomatic metagame even more interesting, because you will be (literally) heavily invested in trying to maintain control of certain regions, and it will maybe give you reasons to intervene in wars concerning those regions or try to maintain peace there at all costs.
Actually, there is one huge difference compared to real world - in real world capis get a return on those investments (which is why they make them in the first place). As it is now, capis spend your POP's money in another country for absolutely no gain of their own.
Ouch, I foresee a lot of problems with this.
Ouch, I foresee a lot of problems with this.
3 nations declared war on you and they have nationalized your industry.
Your trying to build industry to remove a country from another GP sphere, and that GP declares war on you - decades of investments loss.
You have a lot of unemployed craftsmen and your capis insist on building a factory in Brazil.
You're waiting for your capis to accumulate enough money for your first factory and they decide to build it in Ottoman empire
You're capis build their first Automobile factory in Argentina while you get 123rd furniture factory.
Your capis are now bankrupt because they built a lot of factories in other countries and their numbers bloated in your country making them not earn enough.
And so on...
Worse case scenario, we can always just mod it out of the game again by setting all governments to not foreign invest.
That wasn't a part of your initial complaint. I just adressed things like capitalists building their factories in foreign provinces while there is unemployment at home. Whether or not the capitalists gain money from it has some impact on your tax incomes and the capitalist's ability to get funds for even more factories, but it is not immediately relevant to the unemployment issue. Or to the issue of your control of automobile production, which you get to some degree anyway if you sphere Argentina in that example. If the capitalists have some rule that they only spend money in your sphere and only spend some small fraction of their investments abroad, then they are actually better behaved than real world capitalists. There should probably be such rules, though, for the sake of game balance, and because there were a lot of natural restrictions to free trade back then that are difficult to model in other ways.
Edit: what I mean is that I don't claim that the economic model is 100% correct (and I don't expect it to be), I just say that the issues you presented are real world issues.
Your benefit is
a) bigger marketshare of that nations goods
b) more goods produced to the your market.
c) more craftsmens & clerks that can benefit from your products.
If I, as France, build a clipper plant in Latvia, Russia (assuming they're not a GP), and Latvia is awarded their independence at some point, is the clipper plant still mine or does Latvia nationalize it without recourse upon independence?
Exactly which policies allow foreign investment - same ones that allow capitalists to build factories? Or have protectionism/free trade any effect here?
1) If there's partial market ownage by GPs then why did you divided China?
2) Can't GPs invest in each other? What if I invested in someone who becomes GP - instant nationalization?
3) Is there difference between nationalization in different government types? I thought commies should have better position for it or it makes you look more socialistic and stuff.
Exactly which policies allow foreign investment - same ones that allow capitalists to build factories? Or have protectionism/free trade any effect here?