Stellaris Dev Diary #303 - Stellaris with a Twist Community Event!

[Eswahrt]

Any chance of getting increased command limit from admirals back or smth similar to reduce the number of admirals mid-late game? Leader cap still doesnt seem to work well with old command limit.

 

[Alex in Tokyo]

These streams will run for the first three Wednesdays in June (June 7th, 14th and 21st), at 1500 CEST (UTC+1).

I hate to be that guy, but CEST is UTC+2 (https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/sweden/stockholm).

Other than that, looking forward to the streams.

 

[Merch991]

Great to see another patch planned! Is there any chance that this bug may be finally fixed? 3.8.3 didn't fix it

Stellaris - 3.8.2 checksum (947b) - Galactic Community bug: "In Breach Of The Galactic Law" doesn't work properly

Description 3.8.2 checksum (947b) - Galactic Community bug: "In Breach Of The Galactic Law" doesn't work properly Game Version 3.8.2 (947b) What version do you use? Steam What expansions do you have installed? Synthetic Dawn, Utopia...

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[Calvax]

Any chance of getting increased command limit from admirals back or smth similar to reduce the number of admirals mid-late game? Leader cap still doesnt seem to work well with old command limit.

Some flat boosts to all the fleet cap techs would be a good short term solution until they figure out the new plan for leader limits

 

[Lorenerd11]

We’re reducing the amount of collateral damage ground units deal, as many invasions were destroying the colonies before the battle completed.

The base rate at which Raiding bombardment steals pops will be dramatically reduced. Each army present on a planet will also protect 3 pops from being vulnerable to Raiding bombardment. (Raiding bombardment is always unable to steal the last pop of a colony, so on a colony with three defending armies the last ten pops would be safe from raiding.)

Some questions:

1. Does that include offensive armies? If so, doesn't this buff cheap spammable armies like slave armies and clone armies, with 20 armies effectively protecting all pops from raiding on most colonies?

2 Will stronger armies protect more pops, or will a Mega Warform protect as many pops as a basic assault army?

3. Won't that make raiding bombardment essentially useless?

4. And lastly, shouldn't a certain amount of pops be protected from dying to collateral damage at all (especially the last one), and shouldn't armies protect some pops from dying to collateral damage?

 

[luxeritib]

3.8.3 seems quite solid, but there could be some improvements. Resource traits became absurdly strong, that I have to forget all the meta-builds now. If you manage to get 3~4 resource giving leaders early game, you can easily sit on resources from the very start. Aptitude and Transcendent Learning AP allows you to grab resource leaders very easily. Combine it with Heroic Past or Vault of knowledge, it's even better. Prosperity, Executive Vigor, Aquatics trait,.... they are nothing when compared with leader traits. Resource trait in early economy marginalizes all the other features. I think this market equivalent of 32 energy/month traits should be toned down a bit.

 

[Starfury]

2. Won't that make raiding bombardment essentially useless?

Not necessarily. Raiding bombardment can and will kill defending armies, leaving the pops vulnerable to abduction.
You can speed up the process further, by either sending an invasion force to soften up the defenders or by only switching to the raiding stance after you've bombed the living daylights out of the defending armies.

And even if the nerf is too bad, I'd rather spend summer with raiding bombardment being way too weak than with it being way too strong...

 

[forbiddenlake]

Any chance of getting increased command limit from admirals back or smth similar to reduce the number of admirals mid-late game? Leader cap still doesnt seem to work well with old command limit.

This is easy to mod back in if you mod. Here is one (not mine), though as of this writing it overwrites more than it has to and may conflict with other mods.

 

[Rafss]

Are Generals having the mortality rate of Primitive Societies being looked at?

 

[AlvxLG]

Some flat boosts to all the fleet cap techs would be a good short term solution until they figure out the new plan for leader limits

Honestly, I feel like they should do to fleet cap what they did to naval cap. You can go over the cap but get a penalty that scales based off of how far over you go. This way you can bring back admiral fleet cap increase and avoid the fleets splitting just because the admiral died. That way the part of the community that wants admirals to increase fleet cap can have their doom STACK(!) that has -100% ship fire rate and -100% evasion and I don’t have to see another post about admirals affecting fleet cap or else I’ll cry.

Also, I do think there should be a flat boost to the repeatables for fleet cap to a max of 300.

 

[-Marauder-]

Any chance of getting increased command limit from admirals back or smth similar to reduce the number of admirals mid-late game? Leader cap still doesnt seem to work well with old command limit.

Please no. The problem lies in scarcity of Admirals, not minor fleet cap changes.

On topic. Good change to Raiding Bombardment, and Planetary Damage via ground combat. Honestly the latter especially kills people at an absurd rate. 1/10 as fast would still be "absurd" in terms of collateral damage looking at past real world conflicts.

Sad to not hear anything about the leader cap. It's still in a terrible state and the discussions about it have turned the forum into as hostile and toxic a place as I've ever seen it, far exceeding both the old FTL cull and Mega Corp release.

 

[hart30]

Some questions:

1. Does that include offensive armies? If some, doesn't this buff cheap spammable armies like slave armies and clone armies, with 20 armies effectively protecting all pops from raiding on most colonies?

2. Won't that make raiding bombardment essentially useless?

3. Second, will stronger armies protect more pops, or will a Mega Warform protect as many pops as a basic assault army?

4. And lastly, shouldn't a certain amount of pops be protected from dying to collateral damage at all (especially the last one), and shouldn't armies protect some pops from dying to collateral damage?

I believe with this the tactic is to first bomb most of the armies dead, in order to steal the pops which lost protection with raiding afterwards.
It makes sense to me, as before u could have a heavy fortress planet and still easily lose all the pops working on the soldier/army jobs on it from raiding. This caused the defense armies to get deleted rather than beaten.
With the change the defense armies actual protect parts of the population from abduction, rather than getting abducted themselves.

 

[Calvax]

Honestly, I feel like they should do to fleet cap what they did to naval cap. You can go over the cap but get a penalty that scales based off of how far over you go. This way you can bring back admiral fleet cap increase and avoid the fleets splitting just because the admiral died. That way the part of the community that wants admirals to increase fleet cap can have their doom STACK(!) that has -100% ship fire rate and -100% evasion and I don’t have to see another post about admirals affecting fleet cap or else I’ll cry.

Also, I do think there should be a flat boost to the repeatables for fleet cap to a max of 300.

I think that’s a bad idea because it penalises players that don’t micromanage. Say your admiral dies and your fleet is now over the limit, if you don’t split it to get rid of the penalties you’ll be worse off against another empire that does. E.g if base fleet cap is 100 and your fleet is at 120 the penalties will make it worse than one fleet of 100 being followed by one fleet of 20.

This is why I think a higher base fleet cap would be the best simple solution, at least in the short term. If having fewer admirals means that we need a smaller number of larger fleets then let’s just get that. Keep it simple and all that. Whenever the rework happens to the leader cap (the devs mentioned several approaches they were thinking of last dev diary) fleet cap and its purpose can be revisited.

 

[AlvxLG]

The base rate at which Raiding bombardment steals pops will be dramatically reduced. Each army present on a planet will also protect 3 pops from being vulnerable to Raiding bombardment. (Raiding bombardment is always unable to steal the last pop of a colony, so on a colony with three defending armies the last ten pops would be safe from raiding.

Maybe instead of tying it to armies, it should be tied to jobs. Soldier and soldier-Esau’s jobs should be protected from abduction. Or, tie it to buildings. Fortress/strongholds, order keeps/castles, law enforcement building, planet capitals and planet shield can protect as a flat number (or all in the case of shields) of people?

 

[Eswahrt]

Any chance of getting increased command limit from admirals back or smth similar to reduce the number of admirals mid-late game? Leader cap still doesnt seem to work well with old command limit.

Frankly, don't understand the quantity of downvotes. Many people are fine wih the current command limit combined with leader cap?

 

[Calvax]

Frankly, don't understand the quantity of downvotes. Many people are fine wih the current command limit combined with leader cap?

I think it’s because people didn’t like the dynamic fleet cap. I imagine if you’d just posted about the leader cap you would have got more up votes.

 

[A2ch0n]

Many people are fine wih the current command limit combined with leader cap

I would like to get the commandlimit increase back, that was (at least for me) a good solution but i don't have that many fleets even in the endgame because i rely most of the time on federation and imperial fleets.

The Leader cap is absolutely fine for me ( i know, many will disagree). But i need 6 leaders for my council, four scientists for exploration and stuff where 1 is for the council and the rest for the early exploration phase, if they die later on they don't get replaced. Then two to four governeurs (2 on the council) and three generals (2 on the council, one in the field). And three admirals (1 on the council).

Makes 6 councilours and over all at max 16 leaders, most of the time between 12 to 14 at the same time. And thats easy archieved. The only thing i would like to have are governeurs again beeing sector wide.

 

[Harkinian's Dinner]

Will the single-planet governor micromanagement be addressed in the patch? Just tone down the governor traits a little and make them sector-wide again please.

The exploit of jumping your starting admiral around to scout with all three starting corvettes also needs fixing. Please try to avoid having so many of these exploits which reward constant micromanagement. Turning edicts on and off at month change to avoid paying upkeep for them is another one.

 

[mial42]

Frankly, don't understand the quantity of downvotes. Many people are fine wih the current command limit combined with leader cap?

Higher command limit would be good. Dynamic command limit is bad.