Please explain this single party formation for me.

[KopiG]

So this is the billionth time the single party state mechanic surprises me. Let me show you the current situation. This is before the law passes:

This is after the law passes. Please note I havent touched a single thing here. This shows exactly what happens after the law passes.

So my questions are: why are the conservatives forming the party instead of the vanguardist Trade Unions who had the most clout AND votes? What can I do keep a socialist government? Is the single party state mechanics working as designed by this example? If so, how does it work?

 

[the_unnamed]

I would like to know that too as I was in a similar situation yesterday yet (from most to least) trade unions, intelligentsia, armed forces and rural folk formed a party while industrialists got marginalised (ev church was already marginalised) and petite bourgeoisie remained without a party.

 

[Niko92]

Looking at the code, it sets the ruling political party by whichever party the internal faction of the ruler is in. So in this case the Kaiser is from the Evangelical Church, and the Evangelical Church is part of the Conservative Party. The Conservative Party is made the only party and the game checks which other factions could be part of that party

 

[the_unnamed]

Looking at the code, it sets the ruling political party by whichever party the internal faction of the ruler is in. So in this case the Kaiser is from the Evangelical Church, and the Evangelical Church is part of the Conservative Party. The Conservative Party is made the only party and the game checks which other factions could be part of that party

My king was from the armed forces but the party that was founded was kpd with trade unions as leading member. The leader of the trade unions then became chairman.

The next elections were also weird; kpd got 100% and trade unions still had the most clout, yet the intelligentsia leader became chairman. For the third election, same constellation, the trade union leader once again became chairman.

 

[Niko92]

There is the direct code:

on_activate = {
        hidden_effect = {
            if = {
                limit = {
                    ROOT = {
                        ruler.interest_group = {
                            has_party = yes
                        }
                    }
                }
                ROOT = {
                    set_variable = { name = only_valid_party value = ruler.interest_group.party }
                }
            }
            else_if = {
                limit = {
                    NOT = {
                        any_active_party = {
                            exists = this
                        }
                    }
                }
                root = { gen_ruler_party = yes }
            }
        }
        hidden_effect = { #Clears all currently active parties
            deactivate_parties = yes
        }
        update_party_support = yes #Reactivates precisely one legal party
        
        custom_tooltip = {
            text = sps_government_reshuffle_tt
            every_interest_group = {
                limit = {
                    is_in_government = yes
                    NOT = { #Removes all IGs from government that aren't in your party
                        has_party = yes
                    }
                }
                remove_ruling_interest_group = yes
            }
            every_interest_group = {
                limit = { #Adds all IGs that are in your party to the government
                    is_in_government = no
                    has_party = yes
                }
                add_ruling_interest_group = yes
            }
        }
    }

If your ruler's interest group isn't in a party, then a random party based on the "ideology" of the ruler (jingoist, moderate etc.) gets put into power.

 

[Ramidel]

Best overthrow the monarchy first, and then implement the one-party system.

 

[praftd]

As per the description of Single-Party State:

Sets Ruler's party as only valid party and resets government accordingly

The Ruler is a conservative evangelical. When the law passes, the ruling party becomes your ruler's party. Other interest groups then joined the conservatives.

Don't form single party states with a monarchy if you want socialism. You are just handing over total authority to the monarchy which is the antithesis of socialism.

 

[KopiG]

Thank you all for the replies, so it seems like its my "ruler's fault" I will try to enact COuncil Republic first then. Lets see where that leads me. I think I have a good chance for that. Thank you all again <3

 

[the_unnamed]

Thank you all for the replies, so it seems like its my "ruler's fault" I will try to enact COuncil Republic first then. Lets see where that leads me. I think I have a good chance for that. Thank you all again <3

I totally overlooked that you had a monarchy. In my case it was already a council republic and I just switched from technocracy to one party state. Good luck with your new run!

 

[asaz989]

Or you might get lucky and have a socialist monarch to work with.

 

[Zero]

I also have a question about the one party state formation.
I am playing as the Americas and have a Presidential Republic with autocratic power distribution (no elections, no parties). Presidente is a guy from the industrialists.

I changed to a single party state. New presidente is a guy from PB, which was the strongest IG, so this is WAD if I understand correctly.

However, all interest groups want to joint the "one" party:

Of cource 100% legitimacy is nice with just the PB in government.
If all of the interest groups join the government it gets down to 0.

Is it intended, that all IGs want to join? Why would the trade unions join the liberal party?

 

[CaesarVincens]

I also have a question about the one party state formation.
I am playing as the Americas and have a Presidential Republic with autocratic power distribution (no elections, no parties). Presidente is a guy from the industrialists.

I changed to a single party state. New presidente is a guy from PB, which was the strongest IG, so this is WAD if I understand correctly.

However, all interest groups want to joint the "one" party:

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Of cource 100% legitimacy is nice with just the PB in government.
If all of the interest groups join the government it gets down to 0.

Is it intended, that all IGs want to join? Why would the trade unions join the liberal party?

Single-Party State adds a large(ish) attraction bonus to the only valid party, so everyone is more likely to join and countries in the Americas (at least USA and Hispanic Americas) also are more likely to have just liberal and conservative parties (two-party system). Some of the party attraction modifiers also require certain parties to be active and are disabled otherwise. So a vanguardist trade union might join the liberals anyway, since there is no communist party allowed.

As for the change-up of leader. It's likely your industrialist president favored the liberal party, but the PB had more absolute clout and thus became the new party leader when the party formed. Going to Single-Party State from any non-electoral system is a recipe for weirdness.

As for OP, just be glad your Landowners (Junkers) weren't marginalized, because the Conservative Party can't form then and that can break a Single-Party State changeover (parties disband briefly then reform, except whoops, your only valid party isn't able to reform).