Initializing the game takes forever

[Darthyorke]

Hi, since I started playing (I'm playing on Xbox Game Pass), the initial loading screen just after launching the game is taking from 10-25 minutos, it's getting ridiculous.
Is there an issue regarding Xbox game pass players?

My specs are:
Windows 10 updated
16gb ram 3000mhz
I7-7700K 4.2Ghz
GTX 1070 8GB

Please any solutions?

 

[deyudey]

I'm having the same issue, albeit not as long. Takes 3-5 minutes to boot-up the game, takes seconds to load a campaign. In case it matters, I'm using steam.

Specs:
Windows 7
16GB RAM
I7-8700K 3.7GHz
GTX 1060 6GB

 

[AndrewT]

Hi, since I started playing (I'm playing on Xbox Game Pass), the initial loading screen just after launching the game is taking from 10-25 minutos, it's getting ridiculous.
Is there an issue regarding Xbox game pass players?

My specs are:
Windows 10 updated
16gb ram 3000mhz
I7-7700K 4.2Ghz
GTX 1070 8GB

Please any solutions?

That is not the general experience for Xbox or Steam in fact. For me from hitting PLAY in our launcher to the main game menu takes just over 1 minute. And i just have an i5, GTX 1060, 16gb memory, and the game is running from an HDD. Cannot imagine how you could see 25 minutes!

Is this just load time, play itself is okay?



DXDIAG is a program you run from a command prompt or the Windows start menu 'run' dialog box (or 'search programs' in Windows 7 or later). After running it will open a window and start collecting info with a progress bar in the lower-left corner. When it completes click the 'save all information' button and save it to a file then attach that file here.

Please attach your Documents/Paradox/CK3/pdx_settings.txt .
From your Documents/Paradox/CK3/logs/ folder, attach system.log , error.log

 

[Darthyorke]

That is not the general experience for Xbox or Steam in fact. For me from hitting PLAY in our launcher to the main game menu takes just over 1 minute. And i just have an i5, GTX 1060, 16gb memory, and the game is running from an HDD. Cannot imagine how you could see 25 minutes!

Is this just load time, play itself is okay?



DXDIAG is a program you run from a command prompt or the Windows start menu 'run' dialog box (or 'search programs' in Windows 7 or later). After running it will open a window and start collecting info with a progress bar in the lower-left corner. When it completes click the 'save all information' button and save it to a file then attach that file here.

Please attach your Documents/Paradox/CK3/pdx_settings.txt .
From your Documents/Paradox/CK3/logs/ folder, attach system.log , error.log

Just the first load screen when initializing the game, after that it all runs smoothly, the files u asked are attached below.

 

[AndrewT]

Are you having any other issues with this machine?

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Event Name: LiveKernelEvent

Is the game installed on C: or some other drive?

That aside I don't see what in that machine could be causing this for you!

 

[Darthyorke]

Are you having any other issues with this machine?


Is the game installed on C: or some other drive?

That aside I don't see what in that machine could be causing this for you!

Only CK3, no other issues, well Star citizen also takes forever, I have a HD and I know a SSD would help a lot in load screens, but Star Citizen is a game known to require a SSD to play well, no other game takes this long, and CK3 doesn't seem the kind of game that would need a SSD to play smoothly.

The game is installed on drive F:, I keep my games and OS installed separately.

 

[AndrewT]

Is it possible to test it with the game on C: ? I do recall some issues with I think Stellaris if the documents and cache were on a different drive to the game itself.

Also if you exit the Steam app entirely and run ck3.exe directly - any faster?

 

[Darthyorke]

Is it possible to test it with the game on C: ? I do recall some issues with I think Stellaris if the documents and cache were on a different drive to the game itself.

Also if you exit the Steam app entirely and run ck3.exe directly - any faster?

I'll try to run it from C, my game is on xbox game pass, do I still need to close steam app?

 

[AndrewT]

No, sorry, forget that part.

 

[Harald B]

I'm also experiencing rather long initial load times, after which the game runs fine once I'm in it. Attaching some files.

 

[satoru]

I'd look to see if disabling your anti-virus improves load times. its possible your AV is file locking and thus degrading teh load times while it scans

For example on my ssd drive using game pass

1) with AV on - 30 second load from launcher
2) using AV exclusion - 15 seconds from launcher

Simply adding ck3.exe as an exclusion in windows defender nearly halved my load time on an SSD to the main menu

Note that AV tend to be CPU limited, so your improvments will sort of depend on your single core CPU speed


Also does the long load times only occur on existing saves (which are like 200mb) or even on a new game

Do yo uhave anything like OneDrive that's streaming your mydocuments folder from the cloud?

 

[Harald B]

Thank you, adding a scan exclusion did help significantly. And by initial load time I didn't mean time to load a savegame or start a new game (which are both workable enough) but the time between hitting "play" in the launcher and being able to do something in the main menu.
Also initially 15 seconds from launcher wasn't even enough for me to see the logo splash screen, so your brag there was kind of painful.

 

[satoru]

Thank you, adding a scan exclusion did help significantly. And by initial load time I didn't mean time to load a savegame or start a new game (which are both workable enough) but the time between hitting "play" in the launcher and being able to do something in the main menu.
Also initially 15 seconds from launcher wasn't even enough for me to see the logo splash screen, so your brag there was kind of painful.

Hahah yeah sorry. The initial load of the game is very read intensive so having it on an SSD Is going to give you a lot of gains on that front. I moved the game onto my WD Black drive (which is already a high end spinning hard drive) and load times jumped to like a minute.

SSD are a great thing to have for your OS volume. Its definitely worth getting even a moderately sized SSD just to put your OS on the boot times alone will make up for the cost. CK3 is also pretty small, only 5GB, so its easy to fit it onto an SSD even if you buy a smaller sized one.

 

[AaronR117]

Yea same with me deactivated Antivirus and then it works fine.
*I use Avast*

 

[then1_n0ob]

Hi, since I started playing (I'm playing on Xbox Game Pass), the initial loading screen just after launching the game is taking from 10-25 minutos, it's getting ridiculous.
Is there an issue regarding Xbox game pass players?

My specs are:
Windows 10 updated
16gb ram 3000mhz
I7-7700K 4.2Ghz
GTX 1070 8GB

Please any solutions?

Hello, I am here to tell you what solved the problem for me. My load time was allaways great even on HD, but suddently i started to have that problem. The game was taking about 4 minutes on the lunching screan. The way I solved it was when i uninstalled and delleted some mods that was causing that problem. Now i only use the a mod called community flavor pack that gives us some more clothes and the mod fullscrean barbershop. The problem was some mods that were in conflict with the game. Give it a try. I hope I have been able to help you. See ya! Peace and love From Portugal.... POR-TU-GRAL, AMEN!

 

[griffonlianne]

A good 10 min.
No Mods
All DLC
Steam Launcher

iMac 27-in, 2017
Mac OS X Monterey 12.6
3.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
RAM 32 GB 2133 MHz DDR4
Graphic Radeon Pro 580 8 GB

I uninstalled it. Then installed it again and launched it. Took 20 seconds! I was sooo happy. The next days, launched it (so the second time since the new install) and then BAM!!! 10 minutes.

So methinks that after the first install it creates a bunch of crap files that just slows the bejesus out of the loading. Wish Paradox would do something about that.

 

[Hook The Terorbile]

That is not the general experience for Xbox or Steam in fact. For me from hitting PLAY in our launcher to the main game menu takes just over 1 minute. And i just have an i5, GTX 1060, 16gb memory, and the game is running from an HDD. Cannot imagine how you could see 25 minutes!

Is this just load time, play itself is okay?



DXDIAG is a program you run from a command prompt or the Windows start menu 'run' dialog box (or 'search programs' in Windows 7 or later). After running it will open a window and start collecting info with a progress bar in the lower-left corner. When it completes click the 'save all information' button and save it to a file then attach that file here.

Please attach your Documents/Paradox/CK3/pdx_settings.txt .
From your Documents/Paradox/CK3/logs/ folder, attach system.log , error.log

I face the same problems. Here are the files.

 

[AndrewT]

I face the same problems. Here are the files.

Your AMD driver is from 2015. Please uninstall it with this tool

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Clean-Uninstall-Utility.aspx

then reboot.

Install this one:

https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-r5-series/amd-radeon-r5-300-series/amd-radeon-r5-m330

and reboot again.

THEN delete the Documents/Paradox Interactive/HOI4/cache and shadercache folders. Is that any better?


If that doesn't help, the problem is probably your Radeon R5 M330 video system which is WELL below the power of the minimum requirement:

UserBenchmark: AMD HD 7870 vs Radeon R5

All you could really do is reduce the video quality settings in the game as much as you can stand.

 

[RangerRobAZ]

Thanks for the tip on AV causing this. Disabling AV for Crusader Kings 3 took my game launch time down from about 45 seconds to around 15 seconds. This is on an AMD 7800X3D, 4080 system.